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2020/03/04 05:56:02 (permalink)
Hey all,
 
I am upgrading from an EVGA 1080 SC and was looking at the following cards and need help selecting. I see that the Ti has boost clock and memory clock lower than the SUPER cards but has more texture fill rate and memory. I plan on making this the last card I buy until it is unable to play games on it so I am leaning toward the Ti but with the SUPER's being newer I was leaning towards them. Any help is much appreciated!!! 
 
2080 Ti XC Ultra https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-2383-KR
2080 SUPER FTW3 Ultra https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-3287-KR
2080 SUPER SC Ultra https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-3183-KR
 
 
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 06:00:40 (permalink)
    I've always fancied a HOFF but they are hard to find.

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 08:04:16 (permalink)
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    Hey all,
     
    I am upgrading from an EVGA 1080 SC and was looking at the following cards and need help selecting. I see that the Ti has boost clock and memory clock lower than the SUPER cards but has more texture fill rate and memory. I plan on making this the last card I buy until it is unable to play games on it so I am leaning toward the Ti but with the SUPER's being newer I was leaning towards them. Any help is much appreciated!!! 
     
    2080 Ti XC Ultra https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-2383-KR
    2080 SUPER FTW3 Ultra https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-3287-KR
    2080 SUPER SC Ultra https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-3183-KR
     
     
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    All depends on your budget and gaming screen.  With that said, what screen are you using and your most demanding games you like to play?
     
    2080 Tis are the best of the best atm.  2080 SUPERs come in at second in performance. 
     
    With fill rate, the higher, the better.

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 08:32:47 (permalink)
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    All depends on your budget and gaming screen.  With that said, what screen are you using and your most demanding games you like to play?
     
    2080 Tis are the best of the best atm.  2080 SUPERs come in at second in performance. 
     
    With fill rate, the higher, the better.




     
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 09:42:45 (permalink)
    2080 ti of course.

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 12:55:24 (permalink)
    When are the 3080's due out ?
    If they are out soon , I'd wait.

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 13:00:31 (permalink)
    I have both a 1080Ti and a 2080Ti, running on different machines. I can honestly say when it comes to just playing games, there is no difference in the experience between the two. Sure, if you want to squeak out those extra frames per second the 2080Ti is you card. However, if you are just looking for a great experience playing games, I'd go with the 2080. Also, I'd never make this decision based off the "new" card coming out. There is always a "new" card coming out. Unless, it is confirmed to be coming out in the next month or so.
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 13:15:41 (permalink)
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    When are the 3080's due out ?
    If they are out soon , I'd wait.

     
    [My Guess] possibly was going to be in September - if they launched like the 2080 Ti did ... though now we have the coronavirus disruption in markets
     
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 13:20:21 (permalink)
    I have a 27" 1440P 144hz monitor. I play BF5, BF1, The Division, PUBG and looking to get into newer games. I really dont want to sacrifice graphics. I dont really need to have the newest as we know that some new cards are coming out whenever but my thought process, which is probably wrong is that the newer SUPER cards had slightly better specs or performance. 
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 13:21:17 (permalink)
    I've got my KPE which is the best card you can presently get so I'm in no hurry but it will be nice when they finally come out .
    Wonder what the performance will be like compared to our present cards ?

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 13:23:51 (permalink)
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    I have a 27" 1440P 144hz monitor. I play BF5, BF1, The Division, PUBG and looking to get into newer games. I really dont want to sacrifice graphics. I dont really need to have the newest as we know that some new cards are coming out whenever but my thought process, which is probably wrong is that the newer SUPER cards had slightly better specs or performance. 


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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 13:33:12 (permalink)
    Get a KPE and you won't be left too far behind when the newer cards come out .
    I have same spec monitor and that will play everything at max settings giving you a lot more FPS than your refresh rate .

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 13:39:42 (permalink)
    I upgraded from a 1080 turbo, to 2080ti. The gains will depend heavily on gaming resolution, refresh rates, and type of games. If you're a gamer that likes to play 1080p, 60-120hz, mostly first person shooters, then you're not going to gain a whole lot of frames, but a decent jump in graphics. If 1440p, 144-165hz, mostly open world adventures, then you can expect to can a decent number of frames and graphics. Clocks speeds cannot be compared linearly from generation to generation. Even when a card has clocks slower than others, it can have architecture that allows it a lot more torque to power through more demanding graphic loads.

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 13:51:04 (permalink)
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    I upgraded from a 1080 turbo, to 2080ti. The gains will depend heavily on gaming resolution, refresh rates, and type of games. If you're a gamer that likes to play 1080p, 60-120hz, mostly first person shooters, then you're not going to gain a whole lot of frames, but a decent jump in graphics. If 1440p, 144-165hz, mostly open world adventures, then you can expect to can a decent number of frames and graphics. Clocks speeds cannot be compared linearly from generation to generation. Even when a card has clocks slower than others, it can have architecture that allows it a lot more torque to power through more demanding graphic loads.

    This is good to know. I am selling my 1080 for $250 and received a slight raise at work so I want to treat myself. I am not going to be buying another card until this one dies or cant run any future games. Would love the KPE but out of my budget. Looking at the 2080Ti Ultra XC or FTW3. I am not really going to over clock right now so maybe the FTW3 is too much. 
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 13:56:48 (permalink)
    TBH, I would get the KPE otherwise you might regret .
    We had a few people here ( read some past posts) in the same situation and they ended up biting the bullet and they are happy as they went with the KPE and not FTW3 although that is still an excellent card , my last one in fact .
    The KPE is more about future proofing as far as I am concerned and not just OC.
    They also command excellent second hand prices .
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 14:16:43 (permalink)
    If you need max FPS on that 1440p monitor then definitely go for a Ti if you can afford it, however the 2080 Super will still be quite good at 1440p it just can't push as much FPS if you're needing high FPS output.  If you want to run RTX enabled stuff definitely try to get the Ti series.  I like my FTW3 2080 Super at 1440p for the stuff I play all the time but I've also played a bit with Control with RTX features turned on and maybe it's just that game since it forces me to downscale in the game settings but the FPS takes a serious hit running scaled down internally but displaying at 1440 (I think?  Control's resolution settings are kinda confusing there).  I haven't tried Wolfenstein since they enabled RTX in it finally and those are the only two things I have with it. 
     
    Anyway, just something to keep in mind.  Before the coronavirus thing I'd have said just hold out for the 3xxx series a few months or however long but yeah who knows now.  I had originally planned to hold out as well with my 1070 SC last August when I built my new PC, but ended up selling my old stuff and included the 1070 with it and needed a new card.

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 14:23:49 (permalink)
    I was thinking of going for the Ti XC Ultra - I really cant afford anything over that and it is hard to justify (AKA MY WIFE WILL KILL ME) spending FTW3 or KPE, lol
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 14:29:58 (permalink)
    Your planning on buying a new card & keeping it for a long time
     
    Look at the Optional warranty EVGA offers ... it is very inexpensive EVGA Extended Warranty
     
    pushes the standard 3yr warranty to 5yr or 10 yr total time .... your 2080 Ti - just  $30 for 5 yr / $60 for 10 yr
     

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 14:42:10 (permalink)
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    I was thinking of going for the Ti XC Ultra - I really cant afford anything over that and it is hard to justify (AKA MY WIFE WILL KILL ME) spending FTW3 or KPE, lol


    I think the XC Ultra would be just fine IMO.  Sure it's not an FTW3 but that just guarantees a faster factory OC anyway.  If/when you started manual OC there's no guarantees anymore anyway.  Also, like CoolGTX said, get the extended warranty.  Before I had that 1070....which was only about 18 months old when I sold it.....I had a 780 SC and had planned to keep it until the 2xxx stuff came out.  It died 6 months outside the factory warranty and I didn't have the extended one.  Don't be like me, if you think you're going to keep it outside the 3 year warranty, get the extended for the few extra $$$ cause $30 or so is a LOT cheaper than 1000+ for a new card.

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 15:39:06 (permalink)
     
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    I was thinking of going for the Ti XC Ultra - I really cant afford anything over that and it is hard to justify (AKA MY WIFE WILL KILL ME) spending FTW3 or KPE, lol


     
    I returned my used 2080ti ftw for this card. The FTW cost me $1194, and this used card the XC2 only cost me $1074. It's just as fast as the FTW and it saved me $120. Yes if you buy from Amazon and it must be Amazon warehouse, you will still be able to get the full warranty, buy the extended warranty, get the advance rma and the 2 free games. This card is better then the XC. 

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 17:02:08 (permalink)
    For solid 1440p 144fps, definitely a GOOD 2080 Ti.  The 2080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid has been on sale for $1200 twice in the past month, wait for it to go on sale again.  The Kingpin was just on sale for $1400.  If you have gsync or a compatible monitor, you could get away with a 2080S FTW3.  Definitely don't get a non-ftw3 2080S, they have a significantly lower power limit.
     
    The Ti XC Ultra is a great card too, nice thick cooler and the power limit is 338w vs. 373w on the FTW3 so you're not giving up much.  But the hybrids are a step up if you're willing to deal with their quirks and set it up properly.
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 17:47:06 (permalink)
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    For solid 1440p 144fps, definitely a GOOD 2080 Ti.  The 2080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid has been on sale for $1200 twice in the past month, wait for it to go on sale again.  The Kingpin was just on sale for $1400.  If you have gsync or a compatible monitor, you could get away with a 2080S FTW3.  Definitely don't get a non-ftw3 2080S, they have a significantly lower power limit.
     
    The Ti XC Ultra is a great card too, nice thick cooler and the power limit is 338w vs. 373w on the FTW3 so you're not giving up much.  But the hybrids are a step up if you're willing to deal with their quirks and set it up properly.


    Not big on the hybrid. I think I am going to go with the 1080Ti XC Ultra. It isn’t too much and I feel like I won’t be missing much from the FTW3
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 18:10:04 (permalink)
    Fair enough, just make sure you're getting good air flow, top mount AIO and good strong front fans are the way to go.
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 18:14:09 (permalink)
    Got the CLC radiator with 2 120 fans exhausting from top and 2 140 in front pulling in cold air. Computer is in a finished basement so it’s freezing all the time lol
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 21:30:36 (permalink)
    If you're looking to max or close to max depending on the optimization and demand in the game, a 2080 Ti should suffice for a 1440p 120/144hz.  It will also have the features of Ray Tracing and Tensor cores.  Mine has worked like a charm once the game developers worked out the kinks.

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/04 22:24:45 (permalink)
    I think the 2080ti is the way to go since you don't plan to upgrade for a long time. I feel it's worth the extra when you are already talking about buying a 2080 Super to go more top of the line and buy some extra life for the card with it.

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/05 08:58:24 (permalink)
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    I think the 2080ti is the way to go since you don't plan to upgrade for a long time. I feel it's worth the extra when you are already talking about buying a 2080 Super to go more top of the line and buy some extra life for the card with it.


    That was my thought exactly. I am trying to see if I can swing the FTW3 Ultra or just stick with the XC Ultra. I can't really justify spending much more to get slightly more power or boost clocks and texture fill times. Not sure if i can post this but with New Egg i can get the FTW3 Ultra for almost the same price as an XC Ultra - can I still get the EVGA warranty? 
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/05 14:14:48 (permalink)
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    I think the 2080ti is the way to go since you don't plan to upgrade for a long time. I feel it's worth the extra when you are already talking about buying a 2080 Super to go more top of the line and buy some extra life for the card with it.


    That was my thought exactly. I am trying to see if I can swing the FTW3 Ultra or just stick with the XC Ultra. I can't really justify spending much more to get slightly more power or boost clocks and texture fill times. Not sure if i can post this but with New Egg i can get the FTW3 Ultra for almost the same price as an XC Ultra - can I still get the EVGA warranty? 


    Did you even read my earlier post? I posted that the XC2 is better then the XC and if you buy the open box/used from Aamzon themselves, you get the full warranty, ability to extend the warranty and advance rma plus you get 90 days to step up if you choose to. The XC2 is a step down from the FTW but cost less. I have no regrets going from the 2080ti FTW3 down to the XC2 because I saved over $120 to use that for something else. 

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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/05 15:19:07 (permalink)
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    I think the 2080ti is the way to go since you don't plan to upgrade for a long time. I feel it's worth the extra when you are already talking about buying a 2080 Super to go more top of the line and buy some extra life for the card with it.


    That was my thought exactly. I am trying to see if I can swing the FTW3 Ultra or just stick with the XC Ultra. I can't really justify spending much more to get slightly more power or boost clocks and texture fill times. Not sure if i can post this but with New Egg i can get the FTW3 Ultra for almost the same price as an XC Ultra - can I still get the EVGA warranty? 




    Yeah the FTW3 for $1199 after code and rebate on newegg is a good deal.  The open box XC2 from Amazon is a good deal too, the only thing I worry about with those is they may have been returned for poor OC performance.
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    Re: Need your help picking a GPU 2020/03/05 16:38:44 (permalink)
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    I think the 2080ti is the way to go since you don't plan to upgrade for a long time. I feel it's worth the extra when you are already talking about buying a 2080 Super to go more top of the line and buy some extra life for the card with it.


    That was my thought exactly. I am trying to see if I can swing the FTW3 Ultra or just stick with the XC Ultra. I can't really justify spending much more to get slightly more power or boost clocks and texture fill times. Not sure if i can post this but with New Egg i can get the FTW3 Ultra for almost the same price as an XC Ultra - can I still get the EVGA warranty? 




    Yeah the FTW3 for $1199 after code and rebate on newegg is a good deal.  The open box XC2 from Amazon is a good deal too, the only thing I worry about with those is they may have been returned for poor OC performance.




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