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2022/06/26 13:51:44 (permalink)
So I built the below setup a while back when I was playing Battlefield and Company of Heroes. Long story short I now only use my computer for my business, personal and occasional gaming. I literally just did a fresh reinstall as I had a blue screen while playing Company of Heroes 2. It seems SLI is a problem with old hardware and Win10 so I'm looking to simplify. I'm considering moving either to a RTX3060 or GTX1080 from my current GTX670 FTW SLI setup and keeping the rest of the setup as-is......maybe add another 8GB memory. Not looking to drop a lot of money just trying to buy me some time before having to do a new build. Let me know what you guys think....
 
Current Setup:
i7-2600k (not overclocked)
EVGA P67 motherboard
EVGA GTX670FTW x2
EVGA 850w G2
8GB Corsair Vengeance 
 
Like I said it seems I'm getting bugs with SLI now so looking to consolidate and simplify, hence the reason for looking at RTX3060 or a good used GTX1080ti. Not sure if there are any other components I would need to upgrade but I've been out of the rig building scene for a while and just need some candid opinions on how I can improve my relic :)
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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 14:23:54 (permalink)
     
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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 14:41:28 (permalink)
    Unfortunately optimizing for SLI seems to have been dropped by most publishers these days, so it's probably better to stick to one card if it's for casual use.
     
    The 1080Ti may perform better than the 3060 depending what you're playing - the 3060 has more memory, and recent games tend to utilize that, so ymmv. The 2600K may bottleneck you a little with the 3060 though. If you could swing a few more $ for a 3060Ti, that would be better.. that's quite close to the 1080Ti in performance, except the 1080Ti has less vram. Ideally you might want to think about a full system upgrade at some point, that 2600K came out over 11 years ago, so it's getting a bit long in the tooth..
     

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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 15:02:51 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately optimizing for SLI seems to have been dropped by most publishers these days, so it's probably better to stick to one card if it's for casual use.
     
    The 1080Ti may perform better than the 3060 depending what you're playing - the 3060 has more memory, and recent games tend to utilize that, so ymmv. The 2600K may bottleneck you a little with the 3060 though. If you could swing a few more $ for a 3060Ti, that would be better.. that's quite close to the 1080Ti in performance, except the 1080Ti has less vram. Ideally you might want to think about a full system upgrade at some point, that 2600K came out over 11 years ago, so it's getting a bit long in the tooth..
     




    Thanks Nereus.
    I was in fact looking at the 3060ti which looked slightly over $400. I was thinking if a used 1080ti is going to cost me $300+ an additional $100 may get me the latest tech and last me a bit. Either way these single card selections look like they will provide a decent upgrade over what I have.
     
    As for the i7-2600k I realize its a old processor but my worry was upgrading to a newer processor but having to go to a 1151 socket which means a new motherboard. Any suggestions on a decent processor with the same socket that would be budget friendly and worth the change?

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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 15:17:27 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately optimizing for SLI seems to have been dropped by most publishers these days, so it's probably better to stick to one card if it's for casual use.
     
    The 1080Ti may perform better than the 3060 depending what you're playing - the 3060 has more memory, and recent games tend to utilize that, so ymmv. The 2600K may bottleneck you a little with the 3060 though. If you could swing a few more $ for a 3060Ti, that would be better.. that's quite close to the 1080Ti in performance, except the 1080Ti has less vram. Ideally you might want to think about a full system upgrade at some point, that 2600K came out over 11 years ago, so it's getting a bit long in the tooth..

    Thanks Nereus.
    I was in fact looking at the 3060ti which looked slightly over $400. I was thinking if a used 1080ti is going to cost me $300+ an additional $100 may get me the latest tech and last me a bit. Either way these single card selections look like they will provide a decent upgrade over what I have.
     
    As for the i7-2600k I realize its a old processor but my worry was upgrading to a newer processor but having to go to a 1151 socket which means a new motherboard. Any suggestions on a decent processor with the same socket that would be budget friendly and worth the change?

    For the LGA 1155 socket you're near the top already.. there's only the i7-2700k or the i7-3770k that are 'higher', and the performance increase is minimal. All are 4 core / 8 threads, the 2700 and 3770 just have a slightly higher clock speed. I have a 3770 I'll be selling soonish, but I really don't see the point upgrading to that from the 2600K. 
     
    Something to think about; you won't be able to run Windows 11 on that system, so you'll have to upgrade at some point in the next few years (W10 support ends October 2025).
     
    3060Ti is a decent card for casual gaming, and when you do upgrade the rest of your rig, the 3060Ti will still be good to go. It's a massive performance upgrade from the GTX 670 for sure, even in SLI.
     
    I'd also throw another 8GB stick in there if you can find a match. 16GB is probably about as low as you want to go these days.
     
     
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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 15:33:00 (permalink)
    Funny you say that, I was just looking at some Corsair DDR4 32GB for RAM around $100. Based on my reading it seems DDR5 prices don't really make it worth it especially if I'm not doing anything extreme for gaming or video editing. Really the only title I play now is Company of Heroes 2 but there is a new version coming out soon so I think these upgrades would help and maybe in a couple years slap a new MB and processor and call it a day for the decade :P

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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 15:46:12 (permalink)
     
    You can't use DDR5 on that board anyway - but $100 for 32GB DDR4 sounds good, what is it, 3200MHz? Memory prices have dropped quite a lot in the last month or two, so your timing is good.
     
    I have Company of Heroes (original, legacy edition, opposing fronts, tales of valor) - I used to play it quite a bit, but I haven't cranked it up for years now. Most of the time I play Battlefield 2042 or Civilization V.
     
    Yes I noticed Company of Heroes 3 is supposed to release this year at some point, I have it on my Steam wishlist already lol. You'll probably have to upgrade your motherboard for that - from what I can see on Google, it's going to require a minimum Intel i5 4 core processor, 8th Generation (LGA 1151 socket).
     

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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 16:01:46 (permalink)
    I was looking at 3600mhz Corsair Vengeance 32G for $120 or the 3200mhz for $107 on Amazon.
     
    I used to plan Battlefield a lot and was quite good but EA pissed me off, took down my account and claimed I was hacking, which I don't even know how to lol. Very frustrating experience, not sure if someone hacked into my account but needless to say I wasn't about to start all over with a new profile. I was also getting frustrated with all the hacks that were in the game as well. Maybe its gotten better but it was pretty bad on BF4. Since then I've stuck to COH2 as I play with my dad on the weekends. Its a fantastic game and I'm looking forward to COH3.
     
    I just realized I was looking at the RTX3060 12GB and it looks like the RTX3060ti is about another $100 but 256 vs 192 bit. Does a good job with a lot of games on 4k so I think that card will be the one to go with for now and last me a while.

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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 17:27:42 (permalink)
     
    Good deal on the ram.
     
    Nice. I've played most of the BF series, I didn't like BFV much though, even though it's quite popular apparently. That sucks getting banned - I wonder if it was just douchebags reporting because you were good, and some dipstick at EA went hurr durr and hit the ban button. Sad. Good that you can play COH with your dad though.
     
    3060Ti for sure, if you can swing it.
     

     
     

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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 17:53:30 (permalink)
    I just updated/replaced some of my parts. I ended up with a ASUS RX6600XT OC and after doing a bunch of research it doesn't beat my old 1080 ti poseidon. I would look at the 1080ti used market if you're ok with used parts.
     
    There is a 1080ti for 300 bucks on eBay now. search "MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti DUKE 11G OC Graphics Card"
     
     


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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/06/26 20:38:28 (permalink)
    Not sure I feel comfortable with buying used unless I was buying from a respectable member on this forum or another. I’m currently looking at the RTX3060ti which is about $200 more but will be a card I can use for many years to come and with a warranty. Not closed off to the idea just don’t see a lot on this forum pooling up.

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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/07/02 11:25:16 (permalink)
    Anything 2000 series and up and you are 100% bottlenecked by the CPU...usually.

    I recently upgraded from a 3770k (4/8 like your 2600k).  A few years ago I went from a 980Ti to a 2070, and I definitely saw the difference with the GPU being at 50% sometimes, but Ray Tracing and DLSS games would peak the GPU over 90%.  So it really comes down to your games.  But you mentioned you use it for mostly business and personal stuff now.  So wouldn't a 3000 series be overkill?  For the heat and power savings, I'd get a single 1000 series like you mentioned.

    But I'll tell you where you will notice the BIGGEST gain in performance on that rig: get solid state drives if you don't have one already.

    I had 2 3770k systems.   One was my previous gaming rig, and the other I still use for everyday stuff.  I went with an SATA SSD on my everyday rig, and what a massive difference.  Things that would take almost a minute to open now take 10-15s.  When I had the other 3770k as a gaming rig, I got a m.2 to PCI-e adapter, and I put all my games on that m.2 which really speed things up.


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    Re: Need to update my relic..... 2022/07/02 19:15:52 (permalink)
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    Anything 2000 series and up and you are 100% bottlenecked by the CPU...usually.

    I recently upgraded from a 3770k (4/8 like your 2600k).  A few years ago I went from a 980Ti to a 2070, and I definitely saw the difference with the GPU being at 50% sometimes, but Ray Tracing and DLSS games would peak the GPU over 90%.  So it really comes down to your games.  But you mentioned you use it for mostly business and personal stuff now.  So wouldn't a 3000 series be overkill?  For the heat and power savings, I'd get a single 1000 series like you mentioned.

    But I'll tell you where you will notice the BIGGEST gain in performance on that rig: get solid state drives if you don't have one already.

    I had 2 3770k systems.   One was my previous gaming rig, and the other I still use for everyday stuff.  I went with an SATA SSD on my everyday rig, and what a massive difference.  Things that would take almost a minute to open now take 10-15s.  When I had the other 3770k as a gaming rig, I got a m.2 to PCI-e adapter, and I put all my games on that m.2 which really speed things up.


    Only reason for the considering the 3060ti is because I do still game, playing Company of Heroes 2 and they are supposed to be releasing Company of Heroes 3 soon so having a little extra GPU power to make sure I can keep up with the game demands. As for the SSDs I have two SSD main drives and a regular for backup. 

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