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2020/12/19 13:27:16 (permalink)
First I want to say how much I love the Kingpin cards. They are a ton of fun to overclocking and I appreciate EVGA supporting the overclocking community. Now I need help using the Classified tool. I know some of you have had good results using it and I need to know your setting please. All of you overclocking ninjas I need your help with what you used on each setting and how you got there including temps please. Also I’ve noticed that after a few runs all my score does is drop. I remember Vince saying the memory heats up and the performance drops, is anyone else experiencing this? If you are able to get good results run after run, what are you going to achieve this. Thanks in advance for everyone’s help!

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 13:34:19 (permalink)
    Each card will respond differently to the settings. You could try Vince’s settings...

    1.125 nvvdd, 1.4 fbvdd, & 1.2 msvdd. Leave both load lines on level 1 and disable both ocp.

    You’ll also need the xoc vbios which will void your warranty.

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 13:36:42 (permalink)
    NVDD 1.25   , FBVdd  1.4 to 1.43 , MSVDD 1.2 ,  Kingping settings. All cards our different and this should help. Watch  This lots of information.  https://www.evga.com/videos/   

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 14:03:18 (permalink)
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    NVDD 1.25   , FBVdd  1.4 to 1.43 , MSVDD 1.2 ,  Kingping settings. All cards our different and this should help. Watch  This lots of information.  https://www.evga.com/videos/   

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    Don't go above 1.2v NVVDD unless you are using liquid nitrogen. This is per Vince.
     
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    First I want to say how much I love the Kingpin cards. They are a ton of fun to overclocking and I appreciate EVGA supporting the overclocking community. Now I need help using the Classified tool. I know some of you have had good results using it and I need to know your setting please. All of you overclocking ninjas I need your help with what you used on each setting and how you got there including temps please. Also I’ve noticed that after a few runs all my score does is drop. I remember Vince saying the memory heats up and the performance drops, is anyone else experiencing this? If you are able to get good results run after run, what are you going to achieve this. Thanks in advance for everyone’s help!

    I found that placing a cold damp rag on the backplate will keep the memory cool between benchmarking runs. You'll have to flip or change the towel after each run. Obviously the towel can't be too damp.

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 14:38:54 (permalink)
    You all are amazing! On the Precision X what clock are you running the memory, clock, voltage at? Also on the NV and MS frequency are you keeping them at 400? Also what load lines are you using on the NVVSS and MSVDD? You mentioned the XOC bios, does anyone actually have that?

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 14:42:59 (permalink)
    I leave mine at 400. Level 1 load line. To get the xoc vbios you have to send Vince an e-mail at Vince@kingpincooling.com.

    Note: he will need your full name and serial number of your card.

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 14:59:57 (permalink)
    Sajin
    I leave mine at 400. Level 1 load line. To get the xoc vbios you have to send Vince an e-mail at Vince@kingpincooling.com.

    Note: he will need your full name and serial number of your card.



    Thanks Sajin huge help!

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/19 15:40:05 (permalink)
    No problem.

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 06:04:48 (permalink)
    There is no option for 2080 cards?

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/20 06:30:24 (permalink)
    Is it worth it to grab the XOC bios for gaming?  Im stuck at 2145-2175 for gaming and was hoping to try and break 2200+ like what other people are getting.  I may have lost the silicon lottery on this one.
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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/21 13:04:48 (permalink)
    telehog
    NVDD 1.25   , FBVdd  1.4 to 1.43 , MSVDD 1.2 ,  Kingping settings. All cards our different and this should help. Watch  This lots of information.  https://www.evga.com/videos/   

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    Sajin
    Each card will respond differently to the settings. You could try Vince’s settings...

    1.125 nvvdd, 1.4 fbvdd, & 1.2 msvdd. Leave both load lines on level 1 and disable both ocp.

    You’ll also need the xoc vbios which will void your warranty.


    So I want to understand what each of these does. 


    NVVDD is for the Main GPU, FBVDD is for the memory power, MSVDD is for the secondary GPU power, are those correct? Also why have a slider on frequency if changing them doesn’t help? 

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2020/12/21 13:20:07 (permalink)
    Nvvdd = Gpu die voltage
    Fbvdd = Memory voltage
    Msvdd = Secondary gpu die voltage. Has a lot to due with stabilizing internal clock speed of the chip aka the frequency you can’t see.

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/01 05:07:20 (permalink)
    Are this settings valid for using the card while playing always or only for when I do benchmarks? Low fps in games are higher when using the settings but I don't want to risk the card.

    "1.125 nvvdd, 1.4 fbvdd, & 1.2 msvdd. Leave both load lines on level 1 and disable both ocp."
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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/01 13:22:25 (permalink)
    Not for 24/7 use, but you can do what you want.

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/01 13:39:38 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Not for 24/7 use, but you can do what you want.


    I'll leave all in stock then. No risks as it runs great without touching this tool.

    Thanks Sajin
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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/01 14:18:56 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Not for 24/7 use, but you can do what you want.


    One quick question. How is the safe temp for the gddr6x memory? In my readings the lowest module is 43 and the highest module 62.
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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/01 15:03:59 (permalink)
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    Not for 24/7 use, but you can do what you want.


    One quick question. How is the safe temp for the gddr6x memory? In my readings the lowest module is 43 and the highest module 62.

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/15 13:28:30 (permalink)
    Ive been searching on this forum but cant seem to find documentation stating this but do we know if the classified tool will not void warranty?
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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/15 15:24:17 (permalink)
    I would say the only way it could void your warranty is if evga could prove you killed the card with excessive voltages.

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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/15 16:35:18 (permalink)
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    Is it worth it to grab the XOC bios for gaming?  Im stuck at 2145-2175 for gaming and was hoping to try and break 2200+ like what other people are getting.  I may have lost the silicon lottery on this one.


    I only enable the XOC when I'm benchmarking.  Daily use I just using the OC bios.  Not worth the few frames to keep pushing it hard with a huge overclock and power draw on XOC.
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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/21 09:06:29 (permalink)
    Thanks for the above reply, I learned a lot, it not easy to understand.
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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/21 12:29:37 (permalink)
    Hello there ;-)
     
    I have received my 3090 Kingpin yesterday, upgrade from 2080Ti XC on Waterblock, and now thinking how high can it be pushed on stock AIO cooler?
    What is MSVDD, shoud it be higher or lower than NVVDD? 
     
     
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    Re: Need help with the Classified Tool on the 3090 Kingpin 2021/01/22 14:56:02 (permalink)
    Did you bother reading the thread you are asking a question on ?
    Sajin has already answered this earlier in this thread.
    NVDD 1.25   , FBVdd  1.4 to 1.43 , MSVDD 1.2 ,  Kingping settings. All cards our different and this should help. Watch  This lots of information.  https://www.evga.com/videos/  
    Nvvdd = Gpu die voltage
    Fbvdd = Memory voltage
    Msvdd = Secondary gpu die voltage. Has a lot to due with stabilizing internal clock speed of the chip aka the frequency you can’t see.

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