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2017/06/18 16:02:07 (permalink)
** Any recommendation/ suggestion on which nVidia gpu I should use  for  EVGA 132-YW-E179-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI  FTW  motherboard ???
 
It has to be a non-UEFI Bios card using VGA-Legacy firmware since 790i FTW motherboard does not support UEFI.

 Thinking of GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD Nvidia GeForce GTX 670 Windforce OC 2048MB 2GB GDDR5
or Asus GeForce GTX 680 DirectCU II TOP  or  Asus GTX 660Ti DirectCU II TOP.
The GTX 680's were released in March 2012 or just over 5 years ago. Should be able to get one for $60 to $80., GTX 670 for $50 to $60 and  GTX 660 Ti for $40.
GTX 670 performs better than GTX 660Ti and about the same as a GTX 760.  

The mother board has a rough time with MSI AMD Radeon R9 280x card (Oct 2013) VGA-Legacy// and it won't boot at all to Windows using MSI HD 6870 (Dec 2010) unless you uninstall AMD Driver.
It seems AMD GPU's are terrible for the EVGA NForce 790i SLI FTW motherboard. Big time driver issues. Guess that is why we have nVidia chipset mobo for nVidia gpu's to work best with it.
I like to get a high end nVidia gpu and believe the GTX 670, then GTX 680 is the most extreme as should not bottleneck with QX9650 cpu @ 4.0GHz vcore 1.325v and
Patriot ddr3 PVS34G1600LLK (7-7-7-20) 4GB (2X2GB) 1600Mhz becomes (8-11-11-30 -2T) @ 1.90V with 8GB memory installed.  Linked & Synced - won't boot or work otherwise.
 
Thought about the 4GB (Vram) GTX 670 but its too wide and wouldn't be able to do SLI and if I did ... there would be heat problem because of no space between gpu's. 

#Appears we have a new winner: GeForce GTX 680 EVGA SC Edition or FTW+ after watching a You Tube video being run on a 680i mobo.
 
YouTube for ZOTAC GeForce GTX 680 on EVGA 790i Ultra SLI:   www dot youtube dot com /watch?v=Ol72Berq1xE    
 If you GOOGLE this without the quotations:  " EVGA 790i Ultra SLI (S/N: 4175) Проверка "  it will bring up search link to You Tube.
 
Thank You! Other Over Clocking methods/ set ups would be appreciated. 
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    Re: NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI FTW suggestion on a GPU 2017/06/18 16:17:40 (permalink)
    you can use 9 series cards in them, the ufei is mostly so secure boot will work. 
    as for over clocking there are tons of guides for that, look at the straps chart. 
     
    when i was on that board i used a 450 FSB with a 7.5 multiplier. you may need to twiddle with the voltages and other settings also.

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    Re: NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI FTW suggestion on a GPU 2017/06/18 16:54:04 (permalink)
    Hi Quadlatte:
    Thanks for the chart.
     
    The EVGA 790i SLI FTW motherboard does not have SECURE BOOT and does not support UEFI Graphic Cards.
     
    You lost me on the 9 series .. are you referring to AMD or nVidia gpu's ?
    Give example please.
     
    However, the Chart will prove useful.  Have a good day!
     
    post edited by RICHJR - 2017/06/18 16:56:16
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    Re: NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI FTW suggestion on a GPU 2017/06/18 17:11:20 (permalink)
    You many want to consider some of the cards listed here.


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    Re: NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI FTW suggestion on a GPU 2017/06/18 18:12:46 (permalink)
    Hi Sajin
     
    I know you're an EVGA guy .. I appreciate the thought.
     
     Yeah! Sorry as already been there at the MSI website a few days ago.  
    Ever since 2008 starting with my HD 3870's  ..MSI is my preferred GPU brand for all my video cards.
    My HD 6870's, GTX 970's and R9 280x are also produced by MSI. 
     
    The MSI R9 280x Gaming 3G  and using MSI Live Update 6 program shows the card having VGA Legacy BIOS
    but functions like crap with eVGA 790i FTW. // The R9 280x works okay in GA-EP45-UD3P and GA-X48T-DQ6 motherboards as a replacement for the HD 6870's in Crossfire.
    Actually some improvement as a single card over 2- 6870's in XF.
    Also not all MSI gpu's they list have a Switch for Hybrid selection. Mine doesn't and I even used examined the card while
    in my hands. No switch behind the cover - heat sink / on the Printed Circuit card either. To change it requires download/ update from MSI
    using the Live Update 5 or 6 program as indicated on MSI website.
     
    Do you have a specific GPU in mind ?   Thanks for your kind comments.
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    Re: NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI FTW suggestion on a GPU 2017/06/18 18:40:21 (permalink)
    RICHJR
    Do you have a specific GPU in mind ?

    How about a GTX 690?


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    Re: NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI FTW suggestion on a GPU 2017/06/19 11:45:11 (permalink)
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    Hi Quadlatte:
    Thanks for the chart.
     
    The EVGA 790i SLI FTW motherboard does not have SECURE BOOT and does not support UEFI Graphic Cards.
     
    You lost me on the 9 series .. are you referring to AMD or nVidia gpu's ?
    Give example please.
     
    However, the Chart will prove useful.  Have a good day!
     


    newer cards will work in older boards, you do not need uefi MB to use them, i had a GTX 970 in a evga e760 x58 board which does not have uefi bios, same as you can use a older GPU with out a uefi bios in a new MB, you just cant use secure boot on that board then. i have done both and both work. the only thing that you might run into is a low memory gap issue, but you should be able to adjust that in the MB bios. 
     
    for a example, i pulled out my old asus NF 500 board with a AMD athalon x2 cpu, 2GB of ram and booted it with my GTX 970, didnt do a full windows install but just wanted to see if it still worked, now considering that board is 4 yrs older than yours i would think you shouldnt have a problem. 

                                   
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    Re: NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI FTW suggestion on a GPU 2017/06/19 15:36:51 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the help you fine folks have provided.
     
    I've come to a conclusion that the 790i FTW  is not worth the hassle. It does not like any of my AMD gpu's and it won't work with my MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G or the MSI GTX 970 OC version.
    Thought about getting a GTX 670 or GTX 680 but figure it would be a waste of money. After all nVidia Chipset on the mobo is made for nVidia gpu's and to SLI.
     
    I'll probably keep the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P motherboard.  Also my Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6 as it will run with the MSI R9 280x card and both MSI HD 6870's. The X48T won't OC with the G.Skill DDR3 2000MHz (4x2GB) as XMP or manually to 2000MHz caused the mobo to cycle on-off. Also  FBS at 444 was the highest it would go without getting DUMPS.
    Setting FSB to 450 or 500 were No-Go's.
     The Q9650 cpu @ 3.6GHz (9x400) not the Extreme Quad and Memory at 1600MHz seems to work well. After all the X48 chipset was made for AMD gpu's.
     
    Leaving the Patriot DDR3 1600MHz (4x8GB) and QX9650 @ 4.0GHz which is the Extreme Quad in the in the EVGA 790i FTW and may sell it off as to let someone else have nightmares. The worst part of the motherboard is the SPP (Northbridge) fan as it runs at full RPM and it's loud. Let someone pay for a nVidia gpu that will function well with it.  AMD gpu's sux with the 790i FTW.
     
    At least through the hassle , I've got a Strapping (FSB DRAM and FSB CPU) Chart to work with and finding out that the 790i FTW Post Code Display that "FF" means that the motherboard is All Good and set to go forward.  Even though many times Windows OS would not load up. Read that the 790i FTW does corrupt Hard Drives and this one here is no exception to that rule. But it did not help trying to use AMD gpu's either. 
     
    We learn something new every day !
     
    Have Fun and don't give up hope  ... better days or crazier ones are ahead.
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    Re: NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI FTW suggestion on a GPU 2017/06/20 19:04:28 (permalink)
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    Thanks for all the help you fine folks have provided.
     
    I've come to a conclusion that the 790i FTW  is not worth the hassle. It does not like any of my AMD gpu's and it won't work with my MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G or the MSI GTX 970 OC version.
    Thought about getting a GTX 670 or GTX 680 but figure it would be a waste of money. After all nVidia Chipset on the mobo is made for nVidia gpu's and to SLI.
     
    I'll probably keep the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P motherboard.  Also my Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6 as it will run with the MSI R9 280x card and both MSI HD 6870's. The X48T won't OC with the G.Skill DDR3 2000MHz (4x2GB) as XMP or manually to 2000MHz caused the mobo to cycle on-off. Also  FBS at 444 was the highest it would go without getting DUMPS.
    Setting FSB to 450 or 500 were No-Go's.
     The Q9650 cpu @ 3.6GHz (9x400) not the Extreme Quad and Memory at 1600MHz seems to work well. After all the X48 chipset was made for AMD gpu's.
     
    Leaving the Patriot DDR3 1600MHz (4x8GB) and QX9650 @ 4.0GHz which is the Extreme Quad in the in the EVGA 790i FTW and may sell it off as to let someone else have nightmares. The worst part of the motherboard is the SPP (Northbridge) fan as it runs at full RPM and it's loud. Let someone pay for a nVidia gpu that will function well with it.  AMD gpu's sux with the 790i FTW.
     
    At least through the hassle , I've got a Strapping (FSB DRAM and FSB CPU) Chart to work with and finding out that the 790i FTW Post Code Display that "FF" means that the motherboard is All Good and set to go forward.  Even though many times Windows OS would not load up. Read that the 790i FTW does corrupt Hard Drives and this one here is no exception to that rule. But it did not help trying to use AMD gpu's either. 
     
    We learn something new every day !
     
    Have Fun and don't give up hope  ... better days or crazier ones are ahead.


    "ff" depending when its displayed means good. if no other codes flash and it goes straight to ff then thats not good, normally meant there was some type of memory issue. you may want to try a lower multi with a higher FSB, will get you to the same GHZ but with a faster FSB, ahhh the days of adjusting so many settings to OC, now i just bump the multi up and add voltage and done lol

                                   
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    Re: NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI FTW suggestion on a GPU 2017/06/22 08:37:55 (permalink)
    Thanks!  
     I've read a lot about evga 790i FTW and Ultras with instant FF and no other codes that it may mean your motherboard, gpu, power supply, memory could be at fault. Worst scenario is a bad motherboard or that you some how shorted out the mobo circuit to your case. (darn it,  that screw I was looking for and couldn't find - well it let me know where it's at now ... and it fried my mobo.)
     I find that increasing FSB (aka base clock) so you can Over Clock while keeping your CPU Multiplier down doesn't really work great. Often there are dark holes or dead zones in the FSB (a range) that just won't allow you to operate within.
     I'm using the MSI R9 280x on my Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6 mobo and runs like a champ. The evga 790i FTW just hates booting to windows with it installed. nVidia mobo more persistent wanting to use nVidia gpu's as it is designed for.
    X48 is for AMD gpu's and only able to do Crossfire and not SLI whereas 790i FTW is for SLI and won't do Crossfire.
     
    If interested what I use now.
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