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2019/09/05 15:13:20 (permalink)

A Folding Driver over A Gaming Driver.

Only for Windows 10 https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/151050/en-us
 
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Great Folding Driver. 2019/09/05 18:31:20 (permalink)
    Im gonna have to try it



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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Great Folding Driver. 2019/09/05 18:37:51 (permalink)
    Looking forward to seeing points comparisons.  If it's worth it, I'll switch, without hesitation.
     
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Great Folding Driver. 2019/09/06 05:25:18 (permalink)
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    Only for Windows 10 https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/151050/en-us
     
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    GeForce 16 Series:
    GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, GeForce GTX 1660, GeForce GTX 1650
    GeForce 10 Series:
    GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, GeForce GTX 1080, GeForce GTX 1070 Ti, GeForce GTX 1070, GeForce GTX 1060, GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, GeForce GTX 1050
     
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    A Great Folding Driver.


    Can you post some results to show us it being a Great Folding Driver before we going changing our rigs?  
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Great Folding Driver. 2019/09/06 06:07:03 (permalink)
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    Can you post some results to show us it being a Great Folding Driver before we going changing our rigs?  

    Don't have any.

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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Great Folding Driver. 2019/09/06 06:29:41 (permalink)
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    Can you post some results to show us it being a Great Folding Driver before we going changing our rigs?  

    Don't have any.


    Then what makes this a Great Folding Driver?



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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Great Folding Driver. 2019/09/06 07:14:41 (permalink)
    I'll have to keep an eye out for some results - see if I'll switch on my Win10 Rigs

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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Great Folding Driver. 2019/09/06 07:29:08 (permalink)
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    Can you post some results to show us it being a Great Folding Driver before we going changing our rigs?  

    Don't have any.


    Then what makes this a Great Folding Driver?


    That was the point I was trying to get at.
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/09/06 08:23:38 (permalink)
    Title Changed to NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver.
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/09/06 10:24:01 (permalink)
    There are too many New Work Units (WU) to compare and provide any real data.
    Some New Work Units P14249 & P14250
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/05 06:41:48 (permalink)
    Still this seems to be a good Driver for Team Members that want to test them out.

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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/05 09:01:00 (permalink)
    Thanks for the update

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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/06 05:30:00 (permalink)
    Usually, new drivers do very little to folding points.
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/06 06:01:56 (permalink)
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    Usually, new drivers do very little to folding points.

    So then I guess there is no point any longer in posting about Drivers and Folding.
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/06 07:56:09 (permalink)
    I will try it out soon. I finally got a win10 rig up and running last week specifically for music recording and editing and a bit of gfx editing as well. Not planning to run it as a 24/7 folder/cruncher but will turn it on for the TZC etc.

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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/06 09:01:43 (permalink)
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    Usually, new drivers do very little to folding points.

    So then I guess there is no point any longer in posting about Drivers and Folding.

    Indeed.
    At best, nvidia plays around with the OC numbers.
    On some drivers I've seen higher numbers in control, but on extreme overclocking had the same PPD. This could indicate that some projects folded quicker, but some slower.
    I've also seen driver updates where I could push the cards higher. Meaning, old driver +100Mhz GPU, new driver +125Mhz, however both case scenarios the GPU frequency was the same.
    Meaning, the new driver folded slower, unless pushed harder.

    Third, there's no say that driver updates will affect all cards of the same generation, or even if they would affect cross brand (since there are a-binned, b-binned, and AA-binned chips of each GPU).
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/06 10:08:05 (permalink)
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    Usually, new drivers do very little to folding points.

    So then I guess there is no point any longer in posting about Drivers and Folding.

    Indeed.
    At best, nvidia plays around with the OC numbers.
    On some drivers I've seen higher numbers in control, but on extreme overclocking had the same PPD. This could indicate that some projects folded quicker, but some slower.
    I've also seen driver updates where I could push the cards higher. Meaning, old driver +100Mhz GPU, new driver +125Mhz, however both case scenarios the GPU frequency was the same.
    Meaning, the new driver folded slower, unless pushed harder.

    Third, there's no say that driver updates will affect all cards of the same generation, or even if they would affect cross brand (since there are a-binned, b-binned, and AA-binned chips of each GPU).

    Might as well Lock the Thread then.
    I guess there is no point in sharing information with Team Members that it is being said is unnecessary.
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/07 17:24:18 (permalink)
    It seems nobody cares about the Studio Drivers around here but I am still using them the they work well for what I need it for and file size is smaller as it only includes 10 series and up also like the less frequent need to install a new driver to say update.

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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/09 22:02:08 (permalink)
    So far I can't tell whether its the studio drivers, changing to W10, or WUs that is making the changes that I've seen.

     

     
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/15 10:35:09 (permalink)
    Studio drivers are slightly different than the gaming drivers and are thus more likely to have CUDA and OpenCL optimizations built in.
    Games don't rely on those APIs and thus there is little incentive to include them in gaming driver builds. Also stability is a higher focus as well with Professionals that ate likely to be running the Creator driver stack.
    Besides the point bcavanaugh makes that there are changes in performance on different drivers. I for 1 love reading his updates on the viability of new and old drivers on real world folding performance.

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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/15 15:22:00 (permalink)
    Interesting, will have to keep these in mind. Best thing is if NVIDIA would finally update to something newer than OpenCL 1.2 though.  These studio drivers still use 1.2, and that is an eight year old release. 


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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/15 16:26:53 (permalink)
    According to this article, game ready drivers (in my opinion) can be compared to the latest Linux releases, while studio drivers can be compared to LTS releases.
    Meaning, studio drivers focus on reliability, while game ready drivers focus on optimizations.
    NVIDIA recommends you to use the game ready drivers, as (my opinion again), whatever works stable on game ready drivers, will trickle down to the studio drivers.

    https://www.nvidia.com/en...ready-driver-which-sh/
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/15 19:59:51 (permalink)
    I use the Studio Drivers and why I posted under the [Distributed Computing] Folding@EVGA & Crunching@EVGA Area of the Forum.
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-studio-driver-now-supercharge-your-favorite-creative-apps/
    I am Not Really a Gamer and why for me this is the best driver to use on my rigs.
    But you are free to use whatever driver you would like as it is up to each of you.
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/15 20:06:57 (permalink)
    Also I do not see a note that NVIDIA Recommends using only the Game Ready Driver.
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/16 06:23:15 (permalink)
    I'll just say - Thank You - to everyone who does all the heavy lifting & shares their driver testing Results with the EVGA Folding Team
     
     

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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/16 10:58:36 (permalink)
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    Also I do not see a note that NVIDIA Recommends using only the Game Ready Driver.


    Quote (5 lines down) in link:
    If you are both a gamer and creator, choose Game Ready Drivers.


    Whenever a new card comes out, the game drivers are the first, that support the newer cards. This was so with the introduction of the RTX cards, as well as the 1600 series, as well as the super cards.

    The game drivers also built more optimizations. Optimizations built on feedback on how you use your card (Nvidia analyzes how millions of people use their cards, and optimize power and performance curves over time, and reduces the possibility of crashes and glitches).

    By now, the drivers have seen so many revisions, that even the studio drivers for older cards (non super cards) work fine; while there's still some possible tuning going on on the newest cards of the bunch.

    Aside from the basic power and performance tuning, most of the game ready drivers are nowadays optimized for DLSS, which has very effect on folding.

    Still, I believe the game ready drivers generally only get better as time progresses, but occasionally performance falls back, eg: when they're tuned too high and errors/glitches start occuring, or when the drivers become too bloated and need a software trimming or optimization.

    Generally speaking, studio drivers will not see an occasional driver dip in performance like game ready drivers do, but only thoroughly tested and proven improvements.

    I'm sure the studio drivers perform pretty close to the game ready drivers.
    But for the newest cards, you'll have best success with sticking with the game ready drivers.
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    Re: NVIDIA Studio Driver 431.86 2019.9.4 A Folding Driver Over A Gaming Driver. 2019/10/16 21:41:53 (permalink)
    OK, but I will stick to using the Studio Drivers from now on as this works best for me.
    To Note Choose is not a Recommendation it is a Choice and my choice is as stated above.
     
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