NVIDIA RTX 3080 Ti, Eventual SUPER Revisions Allegedly Postponed Indefinitely Amidst Supply Woes | TechPowerUp
 
Everyone and their mother expected NVIDIA to announce - if not a SUPER refresh to their existing graphics cards with increased memory sizes - at least the RTX 3080 Ti. That card surfaced as a planned NVIDIA counter to AMD's preemptive pricing of $999 on its RX 6900 XT graphics card (which to be fair, is in itself as abundant a card as unicorns this side of the galaxy). GamersNexus reported NVIDIA partners' comments on the indefinite postponement of the RTX 3080 Ti and possible SUPER derivatives of the RTX 30-series lineup. It's being said that NVIDIA decided (smartly, I would say) to ensure consistent supply of their existing lineup to sate demand, instead of dispersing its limited chip production across even more product lines.

This would result, I have no doubt, on NVIDIA only having even more SKUs out of stock than they currently do. Considering the market's current state of mind in regards to NVIDIA's lineup, this seems like the most sensible decision possible. TechPowerUp has in the meantime confirmed this information with NVIDIA partners themselves.
 
I had a feeling this would happen because NVIDIA can't manage at this time to have decent supplies of existing SKUs. AMD is in a similar situation. 

aka_STEVE_b
Again,.. and realize I'm not arguing with you RJ, ... I'm just saying the constant PR flip-flop is amazing.
I'm upset with NVidia .
 
Now the news of  no Supers or Ti's -- but just days ago they announce another new card 3060 Ti  , along with an entire lineup of  mobile sku's  ( w/ more memory )  in the 30 xx series lineup ..!?!?!..
 
It's been 4 months since 'launch' of the 3080 , with hardly any cards in site still... 
So what is anyone to believe ?   I've seen the laptops already showing up ..they've got time to make the improved mobile chips but still not the originals ?....
 It's all just so frustrating ...

Nvidia has never officially announced anything regarding 3080 Ti or Super. It was all from unconfirmed sources and claimed "leakers". As for 3060 and 3060Ti those use different cores than the GA102 used in the 3080 and 3090 so not sure how you think that's affecting their availability. The newly announced 3060 is going to be the first card to use the GA106 die. The GA104 is used in the 3070 and 3060Ti. And the mobile parts are going to use GA104 and GA106 dies. Nothing other than the desktop variants will be using the highly coveted GA102. This is what they are referring to in not wanting to spread the GPU dies too thin with more SKUs. 

😲🤣🤣🤣🤣. That was fast. 🙄🤦

CraptacularOne

kram36
You would have to be kidding yourself to believe Nvidia isn't holding back GPU wafers that would make a 3080 Ti card. They are just going to wait until some of the heat from low product availability has died down to announce the 3080 Ti.

They wouldn't be holding back anything since like in any other industry the object is to sell inventory and recoup costs and it makes little sense to hold a sellable product in high demand when they can easily cut down what doesn't make it as full 3090 into a 3080 which is what is happening. They will start binning dies into 3 tiers when or if they announce a 3080 Ti/Super or whatever it's going to be called and I'm sure there will be some lead time to accumulate a reasonable inventory before launch but it's not like the are hoarding dies now for a theoretical Ti/Super SKU when they can't even meet demand for the 2 SKUs they already have. 

Nvidia is already doing it. Yes it makes since as the profits will be better and Nvidia will have the stock to please people better and not have another PR disaster. I've been in queue for a RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra since September and in queue for Step-Up since September also. EVGA hasn't even been able to fulfill people on the Step-Up list that got on in queue from day one.

Is there really even any need to counter a 6900 xt? everything sells out right away, and supply is the only limiting factor, and the bottleneck on sells, and no need to offer anything better if "worse" sells out instantly anyway.

CraptacularOne

kram36

CraptacularOne

kram36
You would have to be kidding yourself to believe Nvidia isn't holding back GPU wafers that would make a 3080 Ti card. They are just going to wait until some of the heat from low product availability has died down to announce the 3080 Ti.

They wouldn't be holding back anything since like in any other industry the object is to sell inventory and recoup costs and it makes little sense to hold a sellable product in high demand when they can easily cut down what doesn't make it as full 3090 into a 3080 which is what is happening. They will start binning dies into 3 tiers when or if they announce a 3080 Ti/Super or whatever it's going to be called and I'm sure there will be some lead time to accumulate a reasonable inventory before launch but it's not like the are hoarding dies now for a theoretical Ti/Super SKU when they can't even meet demand for the 2 SKUs they already have. 

Nvidia is already doing it. Yes it makes since as the profits will be better and Nvidia will have the stock to please people better and not have another PR disaster. I've been in queue for a RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra since September and in queue for Step-Up since September also. EVGA hasn't even been able to fulfill people on the Step-Up list that got on in queue from day one.

That’s exactly why Nvidia isn’t hoarding higher end GPUs now. It doesn’t cost nvidia any more or any less to make a fully functional GA102 or a partially functional GA102. They are all yields of the same die. Nvidia isn’t going to “pass” on a sale now for something with a high margin and higher projected install or sell through base only to defer it to later on something with a lower projected install base like halo products are. If they are hoarding anything now it’s dies that didn’t meet the minimum requirement to be a 3080 for maybe some possible 3070 Ti or stop gap between the 3080 and 3070, they sure as hell aren’t hoarding product that they could easily sell right now as you seem to be thinking. 

Yes they are. It has nothing to do with how much it cost to make the wafers, it's what they can sell the chips for. Trust me, before my queue comes up on the RTX 3080's I have been in since September, Nvidia will announce the 3080 Ti.
 

I was quite surprised they didn't announce some sort of to or super variant of the 3080. But I agree that perhaps it was a logistical choice due to supply being limited and trying to control how many products they are out of at a time 😂😂😂

kram36
You would have to be kidding yourself to believe Nvidia isn't holding back GPU wafers that would make a 3080 Ti card. They are just going to wait until some of the heat from low product availability has died down to announce the 3080 Ti.

Full GA102 dies don't grow on trees.  If Nvidia was able to supply them in quantity they would be flooding the market with a 3080 Ti with a full GA102 and 12GB at an attractive price point. 
 
Glad I lucked out with an early que signup and was able to buy a 3080 FTW3 Hybrid in December.  Pretty good card so far.  Seriously thought about waiting for the Ti.

kevinc313

kram36
You would have to be kidding yourself to believe Nvidia isn't holding back GPU wafers that would make a 3080 Ti card. They are just going to wait until some of the heat from low product availability has died down to announce the 3080 Ti.

Full GA102 dies don't grow on trees.  If Nvidia was able to supply them in quantity they would be flooding the market with a 3080 Ti with a full GA102 and 12GB at an attractive price point. 
 
Glad I lucked out with an early que signup and was able to buy a 3080 FTW3 Hybrid in December.  Pretty good card so far.  Seriously thought about waiting for the Ti.

Funny, I got a email notification from EVGA to buy a RTX 3090 which I got into queue on long after the RTX 3080, but I decided not buy it. The value just isn't there on that card for me.

By the time I will be able to get a 3080 hydro, I may just skip and wait until the next line of cards

Delirious
By the time I will be able to get a 3080 hydro, I may just skip and wait until the next line of cards

That's been my thinking as well. Samsung 8nm's density is nothing compared to 5nm TSMC, even 7nm TSMC might as well be a node shrink by comparison. 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 / RTX 3080 Ti 20 GB Graphics Card Alleged Specifications & Benchmarks Leak Out, On Par With An RTX 3090
 

 
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 3080 Ti / RTX 3080 20 GB FE (Founders Edition) graphics card is expected to feature the PG133-SKU15 PCB design and the GA102-250-KD-A1 graphics core. The GA102-250 GPU has also changed since the last time we saw them and is now exactly the same as the GeForce RTX 3090 at 10496 FP32 CUDA cores. The GPU will also feature the same 112/328 ROP & TMUs count as the RTX 3090. The clock speeds are set at 1395 MHz base and 1695 MHz boost.
 
 As for memory, the card will feature 20 GB of GDDR6X memory. Unlike the 19.5 Gbps speeds of the RTX 3090, the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti is said to retain the same memory speeds as the RTX 3080 at 19 Gbps. Since we are getting a 20 GB bus interface, NVIDIA will be using a 320-bit bus interface which equals a total bandwidth of 760 GB/s. TGP for the card is set to be the same as the RTX 3080 at 320 Watts. That's definitely needed to feed the extra cores so NVIDIA might have to optimize the clocks a bit here. 
 
 
https://wccftech.com/nvid...tions-benchmarks-leak/