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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/06 11:32:37 (permalink)
    based on Samsung’s 7nm EUV process

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/06 16:15:03 (permalink)
    Should be a nice step up in performance. 
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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 06:20:12 (permalink)
    Why is a news articles being posted in Section to ask question about non evga hardware?
    https://forums.evga.com/General-Hardware-m307142.aspx
     
     
     
     

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 07:04:41 (permalink)
    interesting - for sure , especially if this part comes true ....
     
     
    At a bare minimum, you are looking at a 50% increase all things considered and watt for watt.


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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 07:32:06 (permalink)
    Thankfully I held off on Turing... It just didn't feel right at the time. Maybe it'll be different with Ampere and I'll find a great replacement for this Titan X(p) 

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 08:03:56 (permalink)
    The garbage news of the internet strikes again with speculative news without any evidence.

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 10:24:23 (permalink)
    With Raytracing, Ill be holding off a few gens for a highend gpu.



     
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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 11:04:02 (permalink)
    I'm moving this thread back to the general hardware subsection as my post doesn't meet the guidelines of the computer industry news section.

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 13:18:17 (permalink)
    I heard that originally 7nm ampere wasn't coming to mainstream desktop, maybe all this AMD competition is actually adding a little pressure to NVIDIA. Lets hope NAVI 12 is a beast.

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 14:24:48 (permalink)
    In my digging around I found this to be accurate - desktop should be early next year
    their HPC version - ie Titan  maybe dropping in dec at China GTC
     
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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 14:53:36 (permalink)
    More rumours suggest Nvidia Ampere could come early in 2020
     
    Ampere may not be Nvidia’s best-kept secret. However, nothing official has come from Nvidia yet on a potential release of their next-generation graphics cards. Thanks to the guys over at Igor’s Lab, we now have the third confirmation that Ampere could be hitting the shelves sooner rather than later.
     
    https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/james-dawson/more-rumours-suggest-nvidia-ampere-could-come-early-in-2020/
     
     
     
    just food for thought
     
    It cost one billion dollars to tape out 7nm chip
     
    After months of investigation and multiple conversations with several fellow engineers, and super C level executives in multiple organizations, we learned that it costs over one billion dollars to tape out a 7nm chip.
     
    https://www.fudzilla.com/news/49513-it-cost-1-billion-dollars-to-tape-out-7nm-chip
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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 14:55:39 (permalink)
    Xavier Zepherious
    In my digging around I found this to be accurate - desktop should be early next year
    their HPC version - ie Titan  maybe dropping in dec at China GTC
     
    Jen Huang will be keynote
    Come to GTC CHINA and master new technologies and trends in AI and graphics.
    December 16-19, 2019
    https://www.nvidia.cn/gtc/


    You found what to be accurate because other news sources are clearly stating that there is nothing more than a rumor backing up these claims:
    "Nvidia hasn’t made any official announcements about Ampere’s debut just yet, but we have heard from several sources, namely DigiTimes and IgorsLab (via WCCFTech) that Ampere will debut in the first half of 2020." https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-ampere-news-rumors-release-date-architecture-performance/
     
    All these sources refer to a third claim by Igor's Lab as being the determining factor in validating this rumor, which when pulling up the source is an article which states: "Whereby up to the half of the year 2020 Ampere should finally come (I had already written something about it from time to time)."
     https://www.igorslab.media/en/nvidia-counters-the-rx-5500-xt-with-a-gtx-1660-super-almost-cannibalizes-its-own-ti-with-it-and-waits-relaxed-with-the-old-2060-for-a-rx-5600-xt/
     
    This rumor is no more reputable than making a 50% bet on the likelihood that Ampere will launch in the first half of 2020 rather than the second half of 2020 as there seems to be a guarantee that NVIDIA will launch Ampere in 2020.  I can just as easily do the same as what they are doing by officially stating that Ampere will launch sometime from Q2 2020 to Q3 2020.  Now go write an article about it and call it news as it is no more reputable than what they are doing.
    post edited by boylerya - 2019/10/07 15:02:28

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 15:01:40 (permalink)
     
    I wonder if they'll wait until late June for the 'vanilla' model (if the rumors prove accurate), then hold off on Ti for another 4-6 months, or release Ti immediately ...or do something entirely different. Guess I'll keep running my Titan X Pascal until then since I don't think 2080Ti prices have come down at all, so meh.. Titan still performs very well.
     

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 16:21:14 (permalink)
    1. tape-out of ampere was in march this year  - normally it take 9 months  to a year to go from tape-out to release that would be dec or march
    2  the last of turing release is this month with the last models to be released - usually 6 months(max 9 months) after that you see new models appear - see 900 series->10series->20 series - that puts you into march-latest june
    3 i don't consider all those sources as multiple sources - i usually delve into the original source and only count all that as 1 source - when i say i have multiple source - I look at TSMC, AIB partners and other partners, Nvidia sources -(i have some), manufacturing leaks(tiawan/china),etc
    4 as of march jen said they are clearing 20 series stock before they release next-gen hardware
    5. you want to beat AMD out of the gate - if AMD is June you want yours out in March otherwise AMD gets all the attention and you come off as slow to the draw and falling behind schedule
     
    so when i say i have other sources...I DO
    .... i might spend days looking at tech papers - Nvidia partners Data,tech papers and seminars
    usually someone slips up somewhere - it's not bullet proof (although Nvidia has done a good job in the last few years closing gaps) - but to save people jobs i don't get too specific
    it used to be easy finding info years ago - those NDA's and going after leakers has made things harder
     
     
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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/07 19:10:29 (permalink)
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    1. tape-out of ampere was in march this year  - normally it take 9 months  to a year to go from tape-out to release that would be dec or march
    the last of turing release is this month with the last models to be released - usually 6 months(max 9 months) after that you see new models appear - see 900 series->10series->20 series - that puts you into march-latest june
    3 i don't consider all those sources as multiple sources - i usually delve into the original source and only count all that as 1 source - when i say i have multiple source - I look at TSMC, AIB partners and other partners, Nvidia sources -(i have some), manufacturing leaks(tiawan/china),etc
    4 as of march jen said they are clearing 20 series stock before they release next-gen hardware
    5. you want to beat AMD out of the gate - if AMD is June you want yours out in March otherwise AMD gets all the attention and you come off as slow to the draw and falling behind schedule
     
    so when i say i have other sources...I DO
    .... i might spend days looking at tech papers - Nvidia partners Data,tech papers and seminars
    usually someone slips up somewhere - it's not bullet proof (although Nvidia has done a good job in the last few years closing gaps) - but to save people jobs i don't get too specific
    it used to be easy finding info years ago - those NDA's and going after leakers has made things harder
     
     


    2. Last 10 series card to launch was the GTX1070Ti on Nov 2nd 2017, and the first RTX cards launched on September 20, 2018.  Thats 10months and 12 days, not a max of 9 months.  
    4. Relative for the launch of super cards, not ampere.
     
    Either way, everything you are justifying supports a rumor based off people's estimates that may not even be statistically based and it is all definitely not based on leaked information or an announcement by NVIDIA which is exactly why it is a rumor trying to be posted as news by the sources and others.  Luckily some places maintain their integrity and post it for what it is, a rumor.

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/08 12:00:54 (permalink)
    really? .... wrong
     
    GeForce GTX 1050 3GB[30]May 21, 2018
     
    that makes 6 months...actually under 6 months
     
     
    tsmc began HVM of 7nm+ today (thats High volume manufacturing of 7nm EUV) 
     
    which means if you began production of 7nm Ampere today in 6 months you would have enough supply for commercial consumer release -gaming GPU
    HPC ciould be handled by risk production from march til now with ramp up to full to make dec timeline
     
     
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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/08 15:45:19 (permalink)
    I thought we were basing that off of new GPU launches off of an architecture, not an alteration to the memory.
     
    Thats an excellent theory to add to the rumor when considering the keyword you used "IF".

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/08 16:02:46 (permalink)
     
    Speaking of "if", I wonder if EVGA will have a sale anytime soon. I'm interested in the 2080Ti FTW3 hybrid, but with tax on top it's still pretty damn expensive ..or I just wait for the next series, if it's really going to be that much of a performance boost over the 2080Ti. Hmm.
     

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/08 16:12:35 (permalink)
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    I thought we were basing that off of new GPU launches off of an architecture, not an alteration to the memory.
     
    Thats an excellent theory to add to the rumor when considering the keyword you used "IF".


    A launch is a launch no minor what the change is, and nvidia rarely goes for a long time without some form of launch to keep their name in the news.

    Of course, the only guarantee is that the release is the day that NVidia gives out the information, and most of these sources were wrong a LOT about the launch dates last year, as they stabbed in the dark blindly just hoping that nvidia would release the card when they had guessed. As far as trying to debunk the rumors, its wasting time as no one outside of nvidia’s launch can prove the rumor to be any more true or false than both of you state. In the end, something is going to happen sometime and the websites posting need the views to keep the crowd interested.

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/08 20:47:14 (permalink)
    The other thing about rumors about launches is they can change with just a new rumor of supply problems causing a delays. More views and as long as you use a four month window like Q1 you can always say you are right when it happens within that window. If I had to guess I would say Q1 seems like an odd time to launch. It's normally the time of year people are recovering from spending a little bit extra over the holidays and often have used time off during the holidays. Also nothing says lets spend a money like doing taxes. Of course maybe they are aiming for tax return season.

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/09 02:13:42 (permalink)
    I had completely missed that Digitimes officially declared Ampere would be 2020 and in Samsung's 7nm EUV. That's gold, and gives more credence than usual to rumor sites like wccftech. 
     
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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/09 07:39:05 (permalink)
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    I thought we were basing that off of new GPU launches off of an architecture, not an alteration to the memory.
     
    Thats an excellent theory to add to the rumor when considering the keyword you used "IF".


    A launch is a launch no minor what the change is, and nvidia rarely goes for a long time without some form of launch to keep their name in the news.

    Of course, the only guarantee is that the release is the day that NVidia gives out the information, and most of these sources were wrong a LOT about the launch dates last year, as they stabbed in the dark blindly just hoping that nvidia would release the card when they had guessed. As far as trying to debunk the rumors, its wasting time as no one outside of nvidia’s launch can prove the rumor to be any more true or false than both of you state. In the end, something is going to happen sometime and the websites posting need the views to keep the crowd interested.

    Agree, but they attempt at giving a false impression to viewers that it is legit news and not a rumor, where other news sites still post it and clearly state its a rumor or to be taken with a grain of salt.  WCCFTech has produced claims in the past where reputable news sites have even been fooled and reposted on their website to come out looking like fools.

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    Re: NVIDIA Next Generation ‘Ampere’ 7nm Graphics Cards Landing 1H 2020 2019/10/10 05:26:55 (permalink)
    I think it's too early as well.
    But people with 4K monitors who want smooth gaming on highest setting will be happy with new premium GeForce.
     
    It's time to NVIDIA send boards to all partners and give them opportunity to overclock cards.
    Last real beast without tricks was EVGA TITAN Black Superclocked. Without compromise and tricks.
    Full chip, overclocked, all cards on table and really cool product. 
    From then NVIDIA change politic and constantly made some compromise with premium models.
     
     

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