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2020/07/06 23:50:22 (permalink)
https://wccftech.com/nvid...aming-gpu-specs-rumor/
 
The latest specifications come once again from Kopite7kimi who has previously been correct with his NVIDIA Ampere A100 leaks & detailed specifications of high-end Ampere Gaming GPUs such as the GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, RTX 3080 and 2nd Gen Titan RTX but this time he has hinted what could be the possible specifications for NVIDIA's $400-$500 US gaming GPU segment, the GeForce RTX 3070 series.
 
According to the rumored details, NVIDIA will be preparing at least two gaming graphics cards that will feature the GA104 GPU. These are rumored to include the GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & the GeForce RTX 3070. While the GA102 GPU will be featured in the highest-end offerings, the GA104 GPU will feature a more optimized design for GPUs in the sub $500 US segment.
 
Replacing the TU104 GPU which was featured on three GeForce RTX 20 series graphics cards, the GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER, GeForce RTX 2080 & the GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER, the GA104 GPU will offer key improvements in architecture design while leveraging from IPC improvements over the Turing generation. With that out of the way, let's talk about the rumored specifications of both cards.
 
First up, we have the GeForce RTX 3070 Ti, and it's surprising that such a card is mentioned in this rumor. The **70 series has seen a 'Ti' variant before during the Pascal generation in the form of the GeForce GTX 1070 Ti but we didn't get to see any such variant in the Turing generation. That's possibly due to the RTX 2070 getting refreshed as the RTX 2070 SUPER and not as the RTX 2070 Ti. The naming scheme for the GeForce RTX 30 series isn't set in the stone right now but let's take a look at the graphics card.
 
The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti would feature the full GA104 GPU (GA104-400-A1) SKU with a total of 3072 CUDA Cores. It is stated that there will be at least two boards, a PG141 & a PG142 with the former featuring GDDR6X memory and the latter featuring GDDR6 memory. Both cards will feature 8 GB of VRAM.
 
Looking at the GPU, we are getting the same core configuration as the TU104 GPU which peaked at 3072 CUDA cores with RTX 2080 SUPER. If GA104 GPUs were to use the same core config, then the main improvement to performance will be coming from the new architecture & clock speed bump over the current RTX 2080 SUPER graphics card. Also, having two different SKUs for the RTX 3070 Ti seems unlikely but NVIDIA has done similar things in the past. My theory is that both PG141 & the PG142 boards are currently being tested with GDDR6 and GDDR6X memory but only one of them would pass validation for the retail channel.
 
In terms of performance and pricing, the RTX 3070 Ti could offer faster performance than the RTX 2080 SUPER at a price of around $500 US. This would mean users will be able to get similar or way better performance than an existing $699 US graphics card at a lower price point. Again, this is just my speculation but I believe that RTX 2070 series successors won't be breaking the $500 US pricing.
 
The other model is the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 which will feature a slightly cut down GA104-300 GPU SKU. The chip will feature 8 GB of memory but that would be GDDR6. Having GDDR6 is not a big deal since the pin speeds on the memory can reach up to 18 Gbps as tested by major DRAM manufacturers and we've already seen 15.5 Gbps speeds on the RTX 2080 SUPER. If we do get 16 Gbps pin speeds as the base DRAM configuration on Ampere gaming GPUs, then a 256-bit card will be able to output 512 GB/s bandwidth which is a marked improvement over 448 GB/s bandwidth of the existing Turing GPUs.
 
The GeForce RTX 3070 is said to feature 2944 CUDA cores which are also the same core count as the RTX 2080. So the RTX 3070 TI, as per the rumor, features the same core count as the RTX 2080 SUPER while the RTX 3070 features the same core count as the RTX 2080. If both of these cards launch side by side, then a $400 pricing for the non-Ti and $500 US pricing for the Ti model seems likely but this kind of segmentation this early in the launch is very unlikely of NVIDIA.
 
What could happen is that the RTX 3070 launches first at around $400 US with performance on par with the RTX 2080 SUPER but a better variant in the form of the RTX 3070 Ti arrives later on as a refresh with a pricing of around $500 US and performance surpassing even the RTX 2080 SUPER.
 
We just have to wait and see how NVIDIA goes with the pricing this time around but with AMD adjusting its high-end and mainstream Radeon RX RDNA 2 graphics cards for launch in Q4 2020, we might see some aggressive prices by NVIDIA for its own Ampere lineup this time around. With the first custom GeForce RTX 3080 Ti graphics card already pictured, we are likely to get a launch in the coming months.
 
This info is rumor so take it with a grain of salt but if true I believe NVIDIA might be more aggressive on pricing this year. 
 
 

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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/13 09:55:01 (permalink)
    cant wait till Nvidia pulls back the curtain

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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 11:33:36 (permalink)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 Series Ampere Gaming Graphics Cards Rumored To Utilize New 12-Pin Power Interface
     

     
     
    https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-ampere-gaming-graphics-cards-new-power-connector-rumor/
     
     
    really don't know what the big deal is  most high end card required two 6pins or 8pin+6pin or two 8pins
     
    are they saying more than one 12pin????
     
     
    this is the same width as the two 6-pin power connectors that current PSUs offer but offers a current capacity of 8.5A compared to 6A 
     
     
    ah!!!! more power with the same amount of pins
     
    At a perfect efficiency rate, the mini-fit would deliver 600 Watts of power but that's not always the case and the actual power delivered to the GPU is around 400W at 6 Amps.
     
     
    WHT u mean RTX 30 cards can draw 600 watts or more????
     
     
    The source also reports that there's a secondary 4-pin interface next to the main 12-pin connector whose purpose is unknown at the moment. The source does mention that the new power delivery interface would be utilized by a GeForce RTX 30 Ampere Gaming graphics card bearing the PG142 board number. We can't say for sure which particular GPU this board would utilize but judging by the power requirements, it is possible that this might be the high-end GA102/GA104 GPU powered gaming cards which include RTX 3080 Ti / RTX 3090, RTX 3080, RTX 3070 Ti / RTX 3070.
     
     
    another 4pin ....some interface or another power plug??????
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 11:56:21 (permalink)
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 30 Series Ampere Gaming Graphics Cards Rumored To Utilize New 12-Pin Power Interface
     
     
    https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-30-ampere-gaming-graphics-cards-new-power-connector-rumor/
     
     
    really don't know what the big deal is  most high end card required two 6pins or 8pin+6pin or two 8pins
     
    are they saying more than one 12pin????
     
     
    this is the same width as the two 6-pin power connectors that current PSUs offer but offers a current capacity of 8.5A compared to 6A 
     
     
    ah!!!! more power with the same amount of pins
     
    At a perfect efficiency rate, the mini-fit would deliver 600 Watts of power but that's not always the case and the actual power delivered to the GPU is around 400W at 6 Amps.
     
     
    WHT u mean RTX 30 cards can draw 600 watts or more????
     
     
    The source also reports that there's a secondary 4-pin interface next to the main 12-pin connector whose purpose is unknown at the moment. The source does mention that the new power delivery interface would be utilized by a GeForce RTX 30 Ampere Gaming graphics card bearing the PG142 board number. We can't say for sure which particular GPU this board would utilize but judging by the power requirements, it is possible that this might be the high-end GA102/GA104 GPU powered gaming cards which include RTX 3080 Ti / RTX 3090, RTX 3080, RTX 3070 Ti / RTX 3070.
     
     
    another 4pin ....some interface or another power plug??????




    I believe the standard for the Gauge of wire for the 12-pin is larger ... allowing more amps on any one wire

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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 12:55:23 (permalink)
     
    This will be interesting; I'm looking forward to new cards from both AMD and Nvidia.
     

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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 14:28:47 (permalink)
    as i posted on twitter earlier, a pair of 8-pin PCIe cables is more than 400W of power so what is the problem.
     
    this post is more crud speculating about a product that has barely been taped out
     


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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 14:40:10 (permalink)
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    as i posted on twitter earlier, a pair of 8-pin PCIe cables is more than 400W of power so what is the problem.
     
    this post is more crud speculating about a product that has barely been taped out
     




    I think it's fake news to throw us off as we inch closer to launch.

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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 15:07:35 (permalink)
    I bought hard disk (first one this year) and a new BD drive (4K UHD variant).
     
    new cards are always very expensive and the incumbent EVGA RTX 2080 Black Edition is not hurting.
     
     


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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 15:10:29 (permalink)
    Can't just arbitrarily make a new cable spec, 100% of the market doesn't have PSUs that support it. So fake. 


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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 15:21:41 (permalink)
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    Can't just arbitrarily make a new cable spec, 100% of the market doesn't have PSUs that support it. So fake. 



    agreed, the ATX standard has solutions as my GTX 2080 needs 2 power tentacles, no problem, my HX1000i has it handled
     
     
     


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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 17:43:14 (permalink)
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    Can't just arbitrarily make a new cable spec, 100% of the market doesn't have PSUs that support it. So fake. 


    im sure they will have adapters with the card
     
    like two 8pin into a 12 pin


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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 18:00:21 (permalink)
    Cant wait to see the light bill of tears i mean of fears for the fans buying these gpus😹😹
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 18:21:48 (permalink)
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    Can't just arbitrarily make a new cable spec, 100% of the market doesn't have PSUs that support it. So fake. 



    agreed, the ATX standard has solutions as my GTX 2080 needs 2 power tentacles, no problem, my HX1000i has it handled
     
     
     

    Agreed. So fake.
    Maybe some day in the future, but not this immediate future.
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/14 21:44:46 (permalink)
    Nvidia is easing us into a new standard interface
     
    instead of draw on two rails ( two plugs..ie two 8pins or two 6pins) they want one connector from 1 rail
     
    seeing that all modern high end GPUs use Two power plugs  (both AMD and Nvidia do)
     
    futture PSU's are to follow with New connector
     


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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/15 01:04:30 (permalink)
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/15 01:11:42 (permalink)
    https://www.igorslab.de/was-ist-dran-an-nvidias-neuer-12-pin-stromversorgung-keine-panik-aber-das-ist-eigentlich-ueberfaellig-igorslab-investigativ/
     
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    And as is the case with rumors and snippets of information, various statements were spread, some of which even contradicted each other. On the one hand, there was the opinion that NVIDIA will already use this new 12-pin connector on the new high-end amp cards, whereby the PG132 reference board should continue to be equipped with two 8-pin sockets and only this new socket on the PG133-PCB of the Founders Edition.
     
    In addition, there was talk of a 12-pin adapter included in the Founders Edition, which should enable the connection of two 8-pin EPS cables. This in turn was the reason for the excitement among the power supply manufacturers, because the EPS actually serves to supply the CPU, is currently available in maximum two and is mostly already being used in full. Thus, the reported connection would actually make no sense if one were not to introduce new power supply standards right away.

     
     
    not 8.5 amps like the earlier post said but 9.5A
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/15 01:38:57 (permalink)
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/15 05:14:19 (permalink)
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    Bring on the adpaters. I got a spare seasonic 1200w sitting on deck. =D

    Dont forget spare savings for that light bill 😹😹.
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/15 21:36:12 (permalink)
    The adapter has been confirmed as fake. On the original FCPowerup article at the very bottom of the page it says the following, which people on the hardware Reddit say translates into...
     
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/16 17:00:25 (permalink)
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    The adapter has been confirmed as fake. On the original FCPowerup article at the very bottom of the page it says the following, which people on the hardware Reddit say translates into...
     
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/17 00:23:53 (permalink)


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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/17 07:41:33 (permalink)
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/17 08:41:57 (permalink)
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    RTX 3070 FOUNDERS @ $699
    RTX 3070 Ti FOUNDERS @ $799
    RTX 3080 FOUNDERS @ $999
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    That's ridiculous pricing if true. Come on AMD, come out swinging...


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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/17 08:45:21 (permalink)
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    RTX 3070 FOUNDERS @ $699
    RTX 3070 Ti FOUNDERS @ $799
    RTX 3080 FOUNDERS @ $999
    RTX 3080 Ti FOUNDERS @ $1499

     
    That's ridiculous pricing if true. Come on AMD, come out swinging...




    Just my personal estimates.  Couple months ago I had 3070 at $649 and 3080 at $899, which I still hold to if there is no 3070 Ti.  
     
    Based on the rumored core counts, IPC and clocks, I had calculated the 3080 (23/24th cut down GA103) to be 2% stronger than a 2080 Ti.    If there is no binned/cut GA103, I'd expect the 3080 based on it to be more expensive.
     
    Alternatively, the GA102 could be reserved for the Titan and Pro cards, with 3080 / 3080 Ti  being cut / full GA103.  Who knows.
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/17 10:13:50 (permalink)
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/17 10:40:47 (permalink)
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    I don't think they'll decide final prices until the last minute, market factors, forecasts, binning, yields, workstation card demand.  I bet they have a highly detailed market model that helps them set their pricing.
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/17 15:58:01 (permalink)
    That would contradict what Nvidia had been saying for some time, iirc.  It will be cheaper than the current lineup, no?

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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/17 16:31:36 (permalink)
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    That would contradict what Nvidia had been saying for some time, iirc.  It will be cheaper than the current lineup, no?




    I'm just guessing they won't considerably undercut their current price to performance ratios.
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/17 17:21:19 (permalink)
    NVIDIA gave a warning that they expect mining usage to ramp back up this fall (decently high current cryptocurrency value plus cooler weather, usually = more mining), so that is another thing to consider. Cryptocurrency value and mining has been historically higher starting in the fall and then tapering off in the spring. If NVIDIA warned its partners about high expected demand, I would think that its pricing would be similarly adjusted higher accordingly.
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    Re: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti & RTX 3070 Specs Detailed (rumor) 2020/07/19 02:43:49 (permalink)
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    NVIDIA gave a warning that they expect mining usage to ramp back up this fall (decently high current cryptocurrency value plus cooler weather, usually = more mining), so that is another thing to consider. Cryptocurrency value and mining has been historically higher starting in the fall and then tapering off in the spring. If NVIDIA warned its partners about high expected demand, I would think that its pricing would be similarly adjusted higher accordingly.



    Anything TT posts should be taken with a grain of salt just as any other rumor site. They make posts about literally everything and the only evidence is hearsay. The crypto market is unpredictable at best, and given how this year has gone so far I highly doubt NVIDIA made such predictions to anyone. 


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