The Nvidia reality distortion field is active again by calling VESA adaptive-sync G-Sync. It's what happens when Nvidia loses a battle but marketing has to spin it. For years people have been ranting that they're not the same thing, now even Nvidia is saying it is. Of course it's not the same thing, but whatever... lol

And this is why I'll stick to good old V-Sync thank you very much. This whole G-Sync\FreeSync tech is so convoluted and expensive that I just don't see the value in it.

"We received word from NVIDIA that you can manually enable G-SYNC on all Adaptive-Sync monitors, even non-certified ones"
 
Good one, too bad it isn't g-sync since the module is missing.

Killmur
And this is why I'll stick to good old V-Sync thank you very much. This whole G-Sync\FreeSync tech is so convoluted and expensive that I just don't see the value in it.

Gsync is the best gaming tech in at least a decade. You obviously never seen it in action to make such claims. Anyone that's used it though has nothing but high praise for it. It's not expensive what so ever either considering how infrequently people purchase monitors. Been using Gsync for over 3 years and it cost and additional $150 over the non gsync comparable display. That is a pittance for legit gaming tech that you'll notice every second you're gaming.

is a g sync monitor still better than a supported free sync monitor or 100% the same?

Sajin
Pretty sure a g-sync monitor is still the best option.

Maybe is best option strictly for gaming, 1440p, 120Hz, Curved screen, etc...
But there is much cheaper 32-43" 4K 2160p monitors with real HDR10 and FreeSync, 500-600$ cheaper than Gaming, with better picture quality.
If GeForce start to use FreeSync on them that would be AWESOME.
Some people need to decide Gaming monitor or Universal monitor.
I vote for Universal Monitor, price is lower, picture is usually better, my hardware is in line with 60fps.
 

redleader00

Sajin
Pretty sure a g-sync monitor is still the best option.

It is:
https://www.pcworld.com/a...ames-super-smooth.html
 

 
According to Nvidia, from 400 tested monitors only 12 have passed rigorous testing on Geforce 10- and 20-series graphics cards.

redleader00
 
According to Nvidia, from 400 tested monitors only 12 have passed rigorous testing on Geforce 10- and 20-series graphics cards.

Translation: 12 companies have paid Nvidia a G-Sync logo license fee. This is the same nonsense that happened with SLI certification of mobos. Nvidia is not going to fix your G-Sync profile unless you pay them a fee. There is nothing in it for Nvidia to make VESA adaptive-sync look good.

Viper453
There is going to be a gsync ultra haha

The predator x27 has g-sync ultra. The monitor in the above youtube video I posted showed the asus pg27uq which has g-sync ultra. 

Sajin

I have that monitor that is blinking. Its an LG. It doesn't blink when freesync is enabled. Maybe they have freesync on in the software but not on in the monitor. Or maybe they have the monitor refresh set to normal and not fast ( in the monitor settings). Maybe the monitor is set to 1ms response time mode and that's not playing nice with the freesync.
Anyways, can't wait to try it out on my 1080ti myself when the option becomes available. 

Brad_Hawthorne
 
Typically, when examples are shown in a convention setting there are reasons why they show certain configurations in a controlled setting to either put something in the best light or to discredit something. I think everyone knows what they are doing in this particular instance.

You hold way too much faith in humanity.

Doomed83
Has anyone found a list of all "400+" monitors that Nvidia has tested? I'd love to see a full list with reason for failure to certify.
 
I know that we'll start seeing info from the community once the function is enabled in the driver, but it would be nice to know a bit more from the source.

Frankly, they probably deliberately don't tell you as to put fear uncertainty and doubt into every VESA adaptive-sync display purchase. The article initially mentioned 400 displays. Now it's showing 550+.  I think they are making up numbers at this point. I would bet money that the only adaptive-sync displays certified the manufacturer also has paid Nvidia a license fee for G-Sync in previous displays. Nvidia could never win the game when it came to specification adoption, so it's giving out backhanded compliments by saying they support it (sort of), while showing examples of it working badly on their hardware. Nvidia needs to quit playing games with their marketing reputation. It's diminishing returns to pull these sorts of stunts and get eventually called on it. Actually support adaptive-sync and quit playing the FUD card. This is marketing snake oil sales with how they present it.

Brad_Hawthorne

redleader00
 
According to Nvidia, from 400 tested monitors only 12 have passed rigorous testing on Geforce 10- and 20-series graphics cards.

Translation: 12 companies have paid Nvidia a G-Sync logo license fee. This is the same nonsense that happened with SLI certification of mobos. Nvidia is not going to fix your G-Sync profile unless you pay them a fee. There is nothing in it for Nvidia to make VESA adaptive-sync look good.

No. G-sync panels require to have higher minimum specs than Free-sync panels. Of course, some of the Free-sync monitors have panels that meet the specs for G-sync but do not include the G-sync module, but some others will not meet the specs.
If the panel is not good enough, there is nothing nvidia can do.
 
In any case, don't worry if you do not trust nvidia. The new drivers will make possible to enable g-sync manually, so there will be people with different Freesync monitors posting their experience and every review of a new monitor will include a g-sync test from now on.

So I've had this thought swimming around in my head but didn't really have a good place to post it. I feel that Nvidia enabling VRR monitors try to use G-Sync is only going to give us better monitors going forward. There really isn't anything that companies can do about monitors that are already out now, I highly doubt that they will go back and patch in support for monitors that have panels that can accept VRR but don't quite meet Nvidia's spec. (I'm not sure if all monitor firmware can be updated if something like that can make it work with GSync better. From one of the YouTube videos I watched, I think it was either Linus or Steve at Gamer'sNexus. The specs that the two companies are benchmarking to is pretty close. But going forward, if a company wants to put out a VRR monitor and market it as "Gaming", then it should behoove them to QA test their panels against Nvidia's Gsync Compatible spec and try to tune the panel to make sure it works. One of those Asus G-Sync Compatible monitors sells for $199 on Amazon, so there's no reason that every LG, AOC, Samsung, or BenQ panel CAN'T be tuned to work with VRR. The companies just have to add it to their QA process. Gamers need to apply pressure to the monitor makers by preferring G-Sync compatible monitors and reviewers need to talk about it in their stories in order to get them to do it. 
 
But here's what I fear about this whole thing.... you're already seeing people make assumptions that FreeSync 1/2 monitors are just going to be automatically supported.  This is not the case in reality. There are already reports that say that just because a monitor says Freesync 2 on the box, they are still showing problems when GSync is enabled. I really hope that people aren't going to run out and buy the latest cheapest monitor that has FreeSync 2 and assume it's going to work and not wait until someone like PC Per, Anandtech, or GamersNexus goes and independently tests out monitors.

Cool GTX
As with All new tech; best to wait for quality reviews or only buy from vendors that have return policies that you can live with.

That's the thing though, VESA Adaptive-Sync isn't new. Been in publicly available products since 2015 and saw it demonstrated at CES in 2014. Also, a bit confused. Would you not also do that for any other tech you buy, not just "new tech"?