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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/25 22:09:53 (permalink)
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Ive never seen anything as wild as blaming custom cables for bad card design.




Welcome to the EVGA forums where GPU troubleshooting lives.  People have had problems with custom cables before causing bad connection.  Dodgy no-name contacts, marginal crimps, poor wire.  Trust me man, I have good amount of experience with electronics cables, probably more than 99.9% of the people here.


Do you have any company recommendations? Corsair hasnt had 8 pin cables in stock for almost 7 months and im looking to replace my pig tailed cables. I ordered custom cables from Mainframe but the order will not be fulfilled for some weeks.




Looks like newegg has sets of the Corsair made fancy pants individually sleeved cables, not sure they are what you are looking for.  But Corsair's own cables are the only ones I would use.
 
Edit: This appears in stock..?
 
https://www.corsair.com/u...e-4-Gen-4/p/CP-8920243
 
Edit 2: Found it, I think. $4.69 each, nice.
 
https://www.provantage.co...p-8920111~7CRSC00W.htm


You seem like a good person to ask, how completely necessary are inline capacitor cables?




They are not needed, period.


How reputable are CableMod cables? They have white cables readily available that ive been waiting for corsair to restock for some time.

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/25 22:16:07 (permalink)
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Ive never seen anything as wild as blaming custom cables for bad card design.


Its entirely possible that the cables could be at fault. People get too comfortable using non-OEM cables and extensions without realizing they could play a factor in poor/bad power. Not saying that is the cause here but as we don't have access to OP's PC, all we can do is to make possible suggestions and rule things out.


True. I was using EVGA's  Power Link. Started having odd crashes. Took it out, checked everything was aligned, set screws blah blah... put it back in... random GPU crashes. Turns out the PCIe 8 pin was dropping under load to 11.3v. I'd been using it for a couple of years. In the trash now and back to direct and nary a crash since. 

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/25 22:19:21 (permalink)
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Ive never seen anything as wild as blaming custom cables for bad card design.




Welcome to the EVGA forums where GPU troubleshooting lives.  People have had problems with custom cables before causing bad connection.  Dodgy no-name contacts, marginal crimps, poor wire.  Trust me man, I have good amount of experience with electronics cables, probably more than 99.9% of the people here.


Do you have any company recommendations? Corsair hasnt had 8 pin cables in stock for almost 7 months and im looking to replace my pig tailed cables. I ordered custom cables from Mainframe but the order will not be fulfilled for some weeks.




Looks like newegg has sets of the Corsair made fancy pants individually sleeved cables, not sure they are what you are looking for.  But Corsair's own cables are the only ones I would use.
 
Edit: This appears in stock..?
 
https://www.corsair.com/u...e-4-Gen-4/p/CP-8920243
 
Edit 2: Found it, I think. $4.69 each, nice.
 
https://www.provantage.co...p-8920111~7CRSC00W.htm


You seem like a good person to ask, how completely necessary are inline capacitor cables?




They are not needed, period.


How reputable are CableMod cables? They have white cables readily available that ive been waiting for corsair to restock for some time.




They are a quality supplier. Just triple check you get compatible cables. All PSU outputs are not wired the same.

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/25 22:20:55 (permalink)
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Ive never seen anything as wild as blaming custom cables for bad card design.




Welcome to the EVGA forums where GPU troubleshooting lives.  People have had problems with custom cables before causing bad connection.  Dodgy no-name contacts, marginal crimps, poor wire.  Trust me man, I have good amount of experience with electronics cables, probably more than 99.9% of the people here.


Do you have any company recommendations? Corsair hasnt had 8 pin cables in stock for almost 7 months and im looking to replace my pig tailed cables. I ordered custom cables from Mainframe but the order will not be fulfilled for some weeks.




Looks like newegg has sets of the Corsair made fancy pants individually sleeved cables, not sure they are what you are looking for.  But Corsair's own cables are the only ones I would use.
 
Edit: This appears in stock..?
 
https://www.corsair.com/u...e-4-Gen-4/p/CP-8920243
 
Edit 2: Found it, I think. $4.69 each, nice.
 
https://www.provantage.co...p-8920111~7CRSC00W.htm


You seem like a good person to ask, how completely necessary are inline capacitor cables?




They are not needed, period.


How reputable are CableMod cables? They have white cables readily available that ive been waiting for corsair to restock for some time.




They are a quality supplier. Just triple check you get compatible cables. All PSU outputs are not wired the same.


Thank you very much for the information and speedy replies.

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/25 22:22:30 (permalink)
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Ive never seen anything as wild as blaming custom cables for bad card design.




Welcome to the EVGA forums where GPU troubleshooting lives.  People have had problems with custom cables before causing bad connection.  Dodgy no-name contacts, marginal crimps, poor wire.  Trust me man, I have good amount of experience with electronics cables, probably more than 99.9% of the people here.


Do you have any company recommendations? Corsair hasnt had 8 pin cables in stock for almost 7 months and im looking to replace my pig tailed cables. I ordered custom cables from Mainframe but the order will not be fulfilled for some weeks.




Looks like newegg has sets of the Corsair made fancy pants individually sleeved cables, not sure they are what you are looking for.  But Corsair's own cables are the only ones I would use.
 
Edit: This appears in stock..?
 
https://www.corsair.com/u...e-4-Gen-4/p/CP-8920243
 
Edit 2: Found it, I think. $4.69 each, nice.
 
https://www.provantage.co...p-8920111~7CRSC00W.htm


You seem like a good person to ask, how completely necessary are inline capacitor cables?




Caps are used for DC power filtering, they are part of the design of the PSU....draw your own conclusion.  People usually cite that they reduce ripple in the DC, it's also conceivable that they improve transient response.  IMHO since we're talking about PSU's going into protect in response to the quality of power they are getting, I would not mess around with removing a component that helps with that quality.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/07/26 05:27:12
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 02:12:00 (permalink)
1. i would also try with the original PSU cables
2. No, it's not the PSU's fault, it may be bad in some way, but not as much as not even powering up the card. That's absurd
3. Sorry about you're bad luck, i hope get it running
 
i don't how much of this cards from RMA aren't just passing around "refurbished" and you may have ended up with someone elses card and DOA.

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 03:05:44 (permalink)
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i would be dubious to let a 3rd 3090 gpu try that PSU
 
like is said earlier a flaky PSU - which might work on an older GPU -
may not on a 3090 because of the power draw - causing dirty power and power spikes which may damage the new card
 
once again i will tell users that blaming a gpu  from burning out or a gpu mfg when the culprit is a flaky PSU 
again this would also explain why other cards ...other than a 3090 are failing too
 
im not saying this is the case but jumping to conclusions is not the best measure here
 
evga may have to beef up the card a bit more to handle PSUs that are out of whack to handle dirty power better and overpower better
 
if the problem is un the fan conroller then EVGA has to rework the firmware and board to fix that,,,,may beef that up as well
 




Ok. So what is not a "flaky" PSU for a 3090? It has to be brand new? It has to be platinum? titanium? gold? it has to have Japanese caps? it has to be from a certain brand? Or speaking more technically it has to have a maximum voltage ripple of 0.001%? and a maximum voltage drop of 0.001% at 100% load?
 
You name the hard requirements and people will know what PSU to buy to prevent their $2k+ graphics card from burning. But EVGA states something as simple as "Minimum of a 750 Watt power supply.", so what do you want from people? Magic? That they reverse engineer their graphics cards to know what's the proper PSU? I'm really sick of people blaming PSU just based on mere speculation

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 04:59:32 (permalink)
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I was one of the guys who's 3090 FTW3 Ultra was bricked by New World on Tuesday night (7/20/21). I called EVGA first thing Thursday morning, setup the cross-ship RMA, put a hold on my credit card for almost $3900 in order to get the card as soon as possible. They shipped the card out next day air and I received it Thursday morning. I was out of town until this afternoon so when I got home I was anxious to open up my "refurbished" 3090. To my surprise it was a completely BNIB 3090 FTW3 Ultra card. I opened it up, and placed it into my computer. 
 
I turned my CPU on and everything seemed perfect, the card was running everything looked good. The only issue was that my RGB case fans were all not lit up, so I opened up Corsair's iCue software and set them all up to be lit up and that was that. 
 
I decided to shut down my PC and then restart it to make sure the case fan lighting settings were saved. As soon as the computer started up everything seemed normal until I noticed that the 3090 was not lit up at all except for a single red led on the board itself directly above where the power connectors are. To be exact, there are 4 LEDs if you're looking at the card installed from left to right. The light that is on is the 2nd light in the series. 
 
Keep in mind that I simply seated the new 3090 and plugged in my 3-8pin connectors that were plugged into my other 3090. No other changes were made.
 
I guess my luck just ran out and I'll be on the phone with EVGA's Tech Support once again for another RMA.
 
Does anyone know exactly what each light means? 


Just to be on safe side, what PCB version that card have? are they sending 0.1 or 1.0 nowadays?
 
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 05:06:05 (permalink)
Why did evga charge you nearly twice the price of a 3090 as collateral? They are supposed to charge you the same price as the purchase cost I thought?

You already paid for one so you should only be providing collateral for the extra they are sending out.

Guess that's their way of avoiding scalpers calling in RMAs to get cards?

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 05:19:53 (permalink)
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Why did evga charge you nearly twice the price of a 3090 as collateral? They are supposed to charge you the same price as the purchase cost I thought?

You already paid for one so you should only be providing collateral for the extra they are sending out.

Guess that's their way of avoiding scalpers calling in RMAs to get cards?



Quite likely. Otherwise lot's of people would call for fake cross-shipping RMA and get 30-series for MSRP scamming EVGA's queue system

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 05:20:28 (permalink)
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Why did evga charge you nearly twice the price of a 3090 as collateral? They are supposed to charge you the same price as the purchase cost I thought?

You already paid for one so you should only be providing collateral for the extra they are sending out.

Guess that's their way of avoiding scalpers calling in RMAs to get cards?

I was wondering that myself and thought it may have been a typo since the 3090 FTW3 sells for roughly $1900, not $3900.

On a different note, people have been asking about CableMod. I’ve purchased several of their kits, and I had one SATA power cable crap out on me. CableMod asked for pics of the cable and it’s connectors as well as my PSU. Once they verified the cable was intact, and not damaged by the user (me), as well as a compatible PSU was being used, they sent a replacement. Stuff happens, but at least CableMod replaced my dead cable for free including shipping.


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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 05:29:28 (permalink)
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Why did evga charge you nearly twice the price of a 3090 as collateral? They are supposed to charge you the same price as the purchase cost I thought?

You already paid for one so you should only be providing collateral for the extra they are sending out.

Guess that's their way of avoiding scalpers calling in RMAs to get cards?



Quite likely. Otherwise lot's of people would call for fake cross-shipping RMA and get 30-series for MSRP scamming EVGA's queue system




It's to prevent fraud by people trying to get an extra card.  Seems a bit excessive for a 3090, but some other cards are going for double MSRP.
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 06:45:41 (permalink)
This is my worst fear. I also had my card die and I only ever played it after the "fix" was released by Amazon. I was getting weird crashes at first and even messaged EVGA asking them if my card is affected by this issue. Oh and my crash symptoms were that all my monitors would disconnect, the audio would go crazy (similar to a full PC lock) and my GPU fans would spin up to 100%. At the time I immediately unplugged my PC and plugged it back in and it booted up. They said my card was not affected because my PC would boot back up after the crash. So at that point I figured one of 2 things:
 
1 - Its a weird crashing bug in a beta game and I'd have to put up with it
2 - If my hardware is the issue then avoiding a game to avoid having that issue exposed seems silly. Whose to say the next game that comes out wont cause it to fail?
 
So given those 2 options, I reformatted my PC back to a fresh install of Windows and then last night tried out the game again. The first run of the game it did the exact same crash as before immediately. I cant even recall if the loading screen had shown yet. I also had Precision X1 up and running on one of my other monitors so I could monitor Temp/Core/Mem/Power. So at this point I'm thinking it must be #1. I reboot my PC and try again. This time I get into the game and am running to ships to collect the logs/reports... X1 shows not only are all my numbers good, this game seems to barely be taxing my GPU at all. I'm at about 60C temp and like 80% power draw.
 
Then I get the crash again. Same one as before. So I hold down the power button and then turn my PC back on. So now I'm in troubleshooting mode. What is making the game unstable? I figured maybe I'll try it in Windowed mode to see if that changes anything (there almost seemed to be a correlation between alt-tabbing and the crashes). I was doing a work thing at the time as well and didnt want to crash and have to open up all my windows again so I literally went into the game, changed it to windowed mode and then exited to desktop. The game closed and I saw my desktop for a couple seconds and then my PC powered off completely. Upon inspecting my PC all the LED lights on my motherboard were yellow (Gigabyte AORUS X470 Gaming Wifi 7) and the power button would not do anything. So I unplugged my PC and waited a bit. When I plugged it back in, the lights all came on and immediately there was a small "POP" noise. Red light on card. Card dead.
 
So now I'm thinking ok well at least I know my card WAS faulty and that I'll get replacement that fixes the issue. Then I find this post and I am sooo disappointed. Either someone knows exactly what is happening and isnt saying or I'm going to feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette with my super expensive GPU every time I play a new game....
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 07:05:11 (permalink)
2 times i got black screens and card ramped up 100%. Hard reboot. My gpu is still working but i fear playing the game now. I may have damaged the card already. Should i do an RMA right now?
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 07:07:18 (permalink)
I dont know if they will let you. When it happened to me i messaged them through the Service Ticket section on the site and they replied and said that because my PC booted back up that its not affected. However as you can see above my card is now dead.
 
When did you purchase your card? I'm curious if its mainly Revision 0.1 cards with the issue
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 07:07:53 (permalink)
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This is my worst fear. I also had my card die and I only ever played it after the "fix" was released by Amazon. I was getting weird crashes at first and even messaged EVGA asking them if my card is affected by this issue. Oh and my crash symptoms were that all my monitors would disconnect, the audio would go crazy (similar to a full PC lock) and my GPU fans would spin up to 100%. At the time I immediately unplugged my PC and plugged it back in and it booted up. They said my card was not affected because my PC would boot back up after the crash. So at that point I figured one of 2 things:
 
1 - Its a weird crashing bug in a beta game and I'd have to put up with it
2 - If my hardware is the issue then avoiding a game to avoid having that issue exposed seems silly. Whose to say the next game that comes out wont cause it to fail?
 
So given those 2 options, I reformatted my PC back to a fresh install of Windows and then last night tried out the game again. The first run of the game it did the exact same crash as before immediately. I cant even recall if the loading screen had shown yet. I also had Precision X1 up and running on one of my other monitors so I could monitor Temp/Core/Mem/Power. So at this point I'm thinking it must be #1. I reboot my PC and try again. This time I get into the game and am running to ships to collect the logs/reports... X1 shows not only are all my numbers good, this game seems to barely be taxing my GPU at all. I'm at about 60C temp and like 80% power draw.
 
Then I get the crash again. Same one as before. So I hold down the power button and then turn my PC back on. So now I'm in troubleshooting mode. What is making the game unstable? I figured maybe I'll try it in Windowed mode to see if that changes anything (there almost seemed to be a correlation between alt-tabbing and the crashes). I was doing a work thing at the time as well and didnt want to crash and have to open up all my windows again so I literally went into the game, changed it to windowed mode and then exited to desktop. The game closed and I saw my desktop for a couple seconds and then my PC powered off completely. Upon inspecting my PC all the LED lights on my motherboard were yellow (Gigabyte AORUS X470 Gaming Wifi 7) and the power button would not do anything. So I unplugged my PC and waited a bit. When I plugged it back in, the lights all came on and immediately there was a small "POP" noise. Red light on card. Card dead.
 
So now I'm thinking ok well at least I know my card WAS faulty and that I'll get replacement that fixes the issue. Then I find this post and I am sooo disappointed. Either someone knows exactly what is happening and isnt saying or I'm going to feel like I'm playing Russian Roulette with my super expensive GPU every time I play a new game....




What's going on here... I think is super weird that the fuse in your card exploded while booting, under minimum load. One thing comes to my mind and that is, "something" happened under load such that your card got short circuited. PSU over current protection triggered before a fuse on the GPU, shutting down your computer. Then turning the PC on, again, this time the fuse on the GPU reacted faster than the OCP of the PSU exploding in the instant.
 
Was your GPU shunt modded? hardware modded? it had an XOC vBIOS? anything not running at stock you could tell us?
 
 

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12G-P5-3967-KR     6/3/2021 7:48:19 AM PT    Yes (ordered/cancelled by EVGA)

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 07:12:39 (permalink)
If the brand new RMA has gone faulty please contact EVGA tech support directly.

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 07:14:52 (permalink)
No mods at all. Stock 3090 with stock BIOS from the day I purchased it (Jan 2021).
 
From what I gather my experience is pretty common when its come to the issue with New World causing the failure. At first you get the crashes and then at some point it will just power off your PC and the card is done. I didnt even have it OCed at the time it failed (it was a fresh reformat and I hadnt bothered playing with any OCs since this card usually crushes any game without it)
 
I'm guessing its been explored but the most plausible thoery I've seen so far is that 0.1 revision cards were able to draw too much power from the PCIe slot? Apparently revision 1.0 cards resolved that
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 07:22:05 (permalink)
So is anyone going to monitor VRAM JUNCTION TEMP in HWiNFO?  Because that ain't the same as what's reported in X1.
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 08:00:51 (permalink)
I have monitored the junction temp previously when I was playing around with OCing my memory. I backed it way down (barely run a memory OC at all in fact) as I had read about the junction temp issue. So if New World for some reason ramps that temp up then I'm curious what its doing that looping benchmarks wasnt
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 08:24:26 (permalink)
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I have monitored the junction temp previously when I was playing around with OCing my memory. I backed it way down (barely run a memory OC at all in fact) as I had read about the junction temp issue. So if New World for some reason ramps that temp up then I'm curious what its doing that looping benchmarks wasnt




Not all memory loads are created equal.
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 08:28:19 (permalink)
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Not all memory loads are created equal.




Of course not. But if the card has issues with that temp at all stock settings then its an issue with the card without question. I also dont believe that is the cause of the failures. I suspect there is a component getting overpowered due to some way that New World uses the GPU (not saying its New Worlds fault... could happen with any game).
 
Or if the solution is to always monitor a relatively obscure temperature and then decide if a game should be played or not based on its reading thats not a functional product
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 08:31:08 (permalink)
KeithW19
 
relatively obscure temperature




No.
 
Still looking for someone to run New World on a 3090 with a typical cooling situation and monitoring Vram junction temps.  But I guess nobody cares.
 
 
post edited by kevinc313 - 2021/07/26 08:34:52
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 08:32:59 (permalink)
I would do it in heartbeat... but my card is a paperweight
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/26 09:25:22 (permalink)
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Why did evga charge you nearly twice the price of a 3090 as collateral? They are supposed to charge you the same price as the purchase cost I thought?

You already paid for one so you should only be providing collateral for the extra they are sending out.

Guess that's their way of avoiding scalpers calling in RMAs to get cards?



Quite likely. Otherwise lot's of people would call for fake cross-shipping RMA and get 30-series for MSRP scamming EVGA's queue system




It's to prevent fraud by people trying to get an extra card.  Seems a bit excessive for a 3090, but some other cards are going for double MSRP.


yes, this is their policy now. I had to put $3000 collateral for my 3080Ti HC cross-ship RMA

Rig1: EPYC 7V12 | [4] RTX A4000
Rig2: EPYC 7B12 | [5] 3080Ti + [2] 2080Ti
Rig3: EPYC 7B12 | [6] 3070Ti + [2] 3060
Rig4: [2] EPYC 7742 | RTX A2000
Rig5: [2] EPYC 7642
Rig6: EPYC 7551 | [4] Titan V

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/07/31 22:01:17 (permalink)
kevinc313
So is anyone going to monitor VRAM JUNCTION TEMP in HWiNFO?  Because that ain't the same as what's reported in X1.


I monitor it on mine all the time. Never installed X1 - don't plan on it. Instead I use MSI Afterburner - seems to work great.
I notice many people in this thread start by saying how they are using X1. Its got me concerned, too.
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/08/01 09:05:09 (permalink)
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Why did evga charge you nearly twice the price of a 3090 as collateral? They are supposed to charge you the same price as the purchase cost I thought?

You already paid for one so you should only be providing collateral for the extra they are sending out.

Guess that's their way of avoiding scalpers calling in RMAs to get cards?



Quite likely. Otherwise lot's of people would call for fake cross-shipping RMA and get 30-series for MSRP scamming EVGA's queue system




It's to prevent fraud by people trying to get an extra card.  Seems a bit excessive for a 3090, but some other cards are going for double MSRP.


yes, this is their policy now. I had to put $3000 collateral for my 3080Ti HC cross-ship RMA




Jesus, imagine saving for your dream card, having it die, then not being able to RMA since you don't have $3000 for collateral.
Or do they do the "ship the card to us first, we will send you a working one back when we get it" ?
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/08/01 09:10:01 (permalink)
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yes, this is their policy now. I had to put $3000 collateral for my 3080Ti HC cross-ship RMA




Jesus, imagine saving for your dream card, having it die, then not being able to RMA since you don't have $3000 for collateral.
Or do they do the "ship the card to us first, we will send you a working one back when we get it" ?




you can still do the standard RMA. you will send the card to them and wait for them to repair it or replace it.
 
I wanted to ensure that I received a new card first, to minimize downtime (hydrocopper card, so it's in a water loop. I wanted to swap it 1 for 1 without changing the loop). So I paid the $3000 collateral. I got it back about a week after EVGA received my old card. I had the $3000 charge looming on my credit card for about 3 weeks due to 1 week shipping each way then EVGA "processing" delays in returning my money.

Rig1: EPYC 7V12 | [4] RTX A4000
Rig2: EPYC 7B12 | [5] 3080Ti + [2] 2080Ti
Rig3: EPYC 7B12 | [6] 3070Ti + [2] 3060
Rig4: [2] EPYC 7742 | RTX A2000
Rig5: [2] EPYC 7642
Rig6: EPYC 7551 | [4] Titan V

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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/08/01 09:54:58 (permalink)
 
justintylerwright

How reputable are CableMod cables? They have white cables readily available that ive been waiting for corsair to restock for some time.


what version of corsair cables were you looking for ? type 4 gen 4 seems readily avilable. if you were looking for type 4 gen 3 maybe thats why you have not seen them. the compatibility from  type 4 gen 4 vs type 4 gen 3 didnt change. they just changed what the outter sheathing was made of.  heres a link to corsair's psu cable chart if you need it https://www.corsair.com/u...su-cable-compatibility
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Re: NEW RMA'D 3090 FTW3 ULTRA from the NEW WORLD Issue is dead within 10 minutes of instal 2021/08/01 10:20:04 (permalink)
type 3 and type 4 are more or less identical from a pinout perspective.
 
type 4 includes inline capacitors, type 3 does not. they are compatible with each other though.

Rig1: EPYC 7V12 | [4] RTX A4000
Rig2: EPYC 7B12 | [5] 3080Ti + [2] 2080Ti
Rig3: EPYC 7B12 | [6] 3070Ti + [2] 3060
Rig4: [2] EPYC 7742 | RTX A2000
Rig5: [2] EPYC 7642
Rig6: EPYC 7551 | [4] Titan V

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