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2021/06/24 13:39:56 (permalink)
According to the Windows 11 tool, my old jalopy PC can't run Windows 11... 
 

 
 

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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/24 14:14:44 (permalink)
    Go into your bios and make sure secure boot and TPM are enabled and it should fix it. Both my systems were reporting as not able to run Windows 11 too. 

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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/24 14:20:47 (permalink)
    Time for an upgrade!
     
    It's probably an indication that the drivers are going to suck for a while 😁
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/24 22:16:55 (permalink)
    Meh. Don't need windows 11 anyways. Future games will work just fine on windows 10 even past its EOL date.
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/25 01:29:37 (permalink)
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    Time for an upgrade!
     
    It's probably an indication that the drivers are going to suck for a while 😁




    Interestingly enough, if you click the learn more link, there are links to buy a new computer. I think my PC will run it just fine. 
     
    Sajin
    Meh. Don't need windows 11 anyways. Future games will work just fine on windows 10 even past its EOL date.




    I plan to upgrade when DDR5 is established and stable. Until then, my current system should be just fine on Win 11 anyway 


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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/25 11:10:28 (permalink)
    For AMD it's called fTPM (firmware TPM) while on Intel it's PTT Platform Trust technology - these are both built into the CPU and don't require a physical TPM chip.
     
    Also, TPM is illegal in Russia and China uses it's own version called TCM. You'll just have to install the Russian version of Windows 11 with an English language support pack and you'll be good to go.

     

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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/25 17:09:00 (permalink)
    Same here, gonna have to check if I can fix that in BIOS.
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/25 21:55:27 (permalink)
    Sajin
    Meh. Don't need windows 11 anyways. Future games will work just fine on windows 10 even past its EOL date.


    +1..... i just stopped using win 7 and a p67/2500k rig about 6 months ago and i was able to play anything i wanted. Of course there had to be some compromises rez wise etc...  but they all ran just fine.

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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/25 22:17:12 (permalink)
    I just check my Z370 Classified K w/BIOS v1.17 running a 9900k - passed. I haven't played with the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) UEFI/BIOS setting so I assume EVGA has it enabled by default. My son should sneak through with his 8700k (minimum is an 8th gen Intel Coffee Lake) on his Z370 Classified K but I should update his BIOS (I think he's still on v1.08).
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/26 10:54:21 (permalink)
    My MSI X299 Gaming Carbon pro can run Windows 11 All I did was enable TPM in the bios. Users left with no option can look into buying a tpm 2.0 hardware module add-on. 
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/26 11:26:39 (permalink)
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    My MSI X299 Gaming Carbon pro can run Windows 11 All I did was enable TPM in the bios. Users left with no option can look into buying a tpm 2.0 hardware module add-on. 


    And scalpers have already noticed this and have upped the price of the module on eBay from $22 to $99.
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/26 15:36:07 (permalink)
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    My MSI X299 Gaming Carbon pro can run Windows 11 All I did was enable TPM in the bios. Users left with no option can look into buying a tpm 2.0 hardware module add-on. 


    And scalpers have already noticed this and have upped the price of the module on eBay from $22 to $99.


     
    Let's all hope that will pass fast. 
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/27 07:04:18 (permalink)
    Curiously, my MS SurfacePro3 (6 yrs) can't run Win11. Secure boot is on.


     

     
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/27 07:33:35 (permalink)
    There are many restrictions with W11 from not being able to run it to reduced features.
     
    System requirements



    These are the basic requirements for installing Windows 11 on a PC. If your device does not meet these requirements, you may not be able to install Windows 11 on your device and might want to consider purchasing a new PC. If you are unsure whether your PC meets these requirements, you can check with your PC Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) or, if your device is already running Windows 10, you can use the PC Health Check app to assess compatibility.


      Processor:
    1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC)
    RAM:
    4 gigabyte (GB)
    Storage:
    64 GB or larger storage device
    Note: See below under “More information on storage space to keep Windows 11 up-to-date” for more details.
    System firmware:
    UEFI, Secure Boot capable
    TPM:
    Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0
    Graphics card:
    Compatible with DirectX 12 or later with WDDM 2.0 driver
    Display:
    High definition (720p) display that is greater than 9” diagonally, 8 bits per color channel
    Internet connection and Microsoft accounts: 
    Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account to complete device setup on first use.
    Switching a device out of Windows 11 Home in S mode also requires internet connectivity. Learn more about S mode here.
    For all Windows 11 editions, internet access is required to perform updates and to download and take advantage of some features. A Microsoft account is required for some features.



    There may be additional requirements over time for updates, as well as requirements to turn on specific features within the OS.



    Feature-specific requirements for Windows 11



    Some features in Windows 11 have increased requirements beyond those listed above in the minimum requirements section. Below are some additional details regarding requirements for key features:

  • 5G support requires 5G capable modem.
  • Auto HDR requires an HDR monitor.
  • BitLocker to Go requires a USB flash drive (available in Windows Pro and above editions).
  • Client Hyper-V requires a processor with second level address translation (SLAT) capabilities (available in Windows Pro and above editions).
  • Cortana requires a microphone and speaker and is currently available on Windows 11 for Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Spain, United Kingdom, and United States.
  • DirectStorage requires an NVMe SSD to store and run games that use the "Standard NVM Express Controller" driver and a DirectX12 GPU with Shader Model 6.0 support.
  • DirectX 12 Ultimate is available with supported games and graphics chips.
  • Presence requires sensor that can detect human distance from device or intent to interact with device.
  • Intelligent Video Conferencing requires video camera, microphone, and speaker (audio output).
  • Multiple Voice Assistant (MVA) requires a microphone and speaker.
  • Snap three-column layouts require a screen that is 1920 effective pixels or greater in width.
  • Mute/Unmute from Taskbar requires video camera, microphone, and speaker (audio output). App must be compatible with feature to enable global mute/unmute.
  • Spatial Sound requires supporting hardware and software.
  • Teams requires video camera, microphone, and speaker (audio output).
  • Touch requires a screen or monitor that supports multi-touch.
  • Two-factor Authentication requires use of PIN, biometric (fingerprint reader or illuminated infrared camera), or a phone with Wi-Fi or Bluetooth capabilities.
  • Voice Typing requires a PC with a microphone.
  • Wake on Voice requires Modern Standby power model and microphone.
  • Wi-Fi 6E requires new WLAN IHV hardware and driver and a Wi-Fi 6E capable AP/router.
  • Windows Hello requires a camera configured for near infrared (IR) imaging or fingerprint reader for biometric authentication. Devices without biometric sensors can use Windows Hello with a PIN or portable Microsoft compatible security key.
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    Feature deprecations and removals



    When upgrading to Windows 11 from Windows 10 or when installing an update to Windows 11, some features may be deprecated or removed. Please see below for information regarding some of the key features impacted:
  • Cortana will no longer be included in the first boot experience or pinned to the Taskbar.
  • Desktop wallpaper cannot be roamed to or from device when signed in with a Microsoft account.
  • Internet Explorer is disabled. Microsoft Edge is the recommended replacement and includes IE Mode which may be useful in certain scenarios.
  • Math Input Panel is removed. Math Recognizer will install on demand and includes the math input control and recognizer. Math inking in apps like OneNote are not impacted by this change.
  • News & Interests has evolved. New functionality has been added which can be found by clicking the Widgets icon on the Taskbar.
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  • S Mode is only available now for Windows 11 Home edition.
  • Snipping Tool continues to be available but the old design and functionality in the Windows 10 version has been replaced with those of the app previously known as Snip & Sketch.
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  • Pinned apps and sites will not migrate when upgrading from Windows 10.
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  • People is no longer present on the Taskbar.
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  • OneNote for Windows 10
  • Paint 3D
  • Skype

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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/28 07:46:39 (permalink)
    If it was a TPM issue it would have stated that.

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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/06/28 07:51:26 (permalink)
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    If it was a TPM issue it would have stated that.




    Not with this version of PCHealth. MSFT says in later versions it will be more detailed.
     
    Did you type TPM.msc into the Window's box to see if you have TPM and if so what is its status?

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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/07/02 04:29:16 (permalink)
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    Meh. Don't need windows 11 anyways. Future games will work just fine on windows 10 even past its EOL date.

    The only thing I'd be worried about is if they pull some DirectX nonsense like they did with Windows 10 where a new OS was required to use certain features...this caused a lot of gamers to go from 7 to 10 at the time (including me lol). Hopefully this won't be a thing this time.

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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/07/04 10:15:43 (permalink)
    Linus had the same problem but he believed it's because the image was only designed to run inside a limited number of VM's, which would explain why.
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/07/19 12:53:15 (permalink)
    Yeah Microsoft has been quite shady about this whole deal lol. I don't remember win 10 ever being this difficult.


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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/08/11 17:23:48 (permalink)
    I am not looking forward to Win 11.
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    Re: My obsolete rig can't run Windows 11 .... 2021/08/13 04:52:45 (permalink)
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    Meh. Don't need windows 11 anyways. Future games will work just fine on windows 10 even past its EOL date.

    The only thing I'd be worried about is if they pull some DirectX nonsense like they did with Windows 10 where a new OS was required to use certain features...this caused a lot of gamers to go from 7 to 10 at the time (including me lol). Hopefully this won't be a thing this time.




    This is my expectations even if it doesn't happen at launch. It could be that DirectX 13 will come out and only be Windows 11 and force the upgrade on gamers who want all the graphical options for new games. The good news though is the Xbox Series X has already launched and unless we find it was secretly made to support hidden features it's unlikely we would really see much of an improvement in gaming for years to come when we see a Xbox Series X Pro or something like that.

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