I just started running it recently and I am getting serious ppd. If we got some other crunchers on board like Yodap said we could move up in the ranks!

planetclown
Be aware Moo! Wrapper lets you run the RC5-72 project using BOINC.  RC5-72 is in the DC-Vault, but Moo! is not to avoid double-dipping (twice the credit for crunching the same task).  You can get the non-BOINC RC5-72 client from distributed.net if you want.  A few years back AMD GPUs were more efficient than nvidia on this project, not sure if that's changed.  I'm not trying to sour anyone from crunching Moo!  Using BOINC is definitely easier than installing and configuring a new client.  Just wanted to say what Moo! was doing under the covers.  Crunch on

I went to the site and entered my information and I am still waiting for a password.
The work units I am getting take 12 to 14 minutes and yield 6,000 points.
rs

To clarify a bit more on what robby is stating, I have it outlined here https://hardforum.com/threads/dc-vault-2.1620596/page-49#post-1040794811 as to what you need to do in order to get Moo! to count towards your position at DC-Vault in the RC5-72 project.
 
I have heard a few reports that it takes a while to get them to email the password. You may even want to contact the Moo! admin for assistance if it doesn't come in a timely manner.

I will have to get this setup and try out some GPU tasks.

I am running mine through BOINC Moo! Wrapper http://moowrap.net/ and also BOINC yoyo@home
So are one or the other not part of DC-Vault?
What would the "non-BOINC RC5-72 client from distributed.net" give us over BOINC ones?
Or is this only to provide numbers to DC-Vault?

cuarc001
You are misunderstanding YoYo's. The one from YoYo that you refer to is not Moo! Wrapper nor RC5-72. It is OGR28.
 
The work from YoYo is kept separate as far as stats go in DC-Vault from the stats generated running the distributed.net client for OGR-28
 
Edit: This was also true for when MUON was also in the DC-Vault.

So then only Moo! Wrapper http://moowrap.net/  is not feeding the DC-Vault Correct?
 
Maybe Non-BOINC Projects should be removed form the DC-Vault?
This would make it simpler than have to go through all the hoops or why is http://www.distributed.net/ not part of BOINC?
Do we want to move over from https://boincstats.com/en/stats/-5/team/detail/58913125/overview to the DC-Vault?
I am still tying to find how the DC-Vault works and it seems odd to me is all.
Sorry cuarc001 not to put a dent on you or the DC-Vault.
But what is the DC-Vault Providing over Free-DC and BAM?
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=teambycpid&team=Crunching@EVGA
https://boincstats.com/en/stats/-5/team/detail/58913125/overview

yodap

NxtGenCowboy
I can join in as well.. Soon as I figured out why it tells me GPU Suspended even though the config is telling it to use it. 
 
Edit** Got it working. 
 
Side question -- Can I Fold and run GPU crunching at the same time?

If you are talking GPU folding and GPU crunching I would not. In the past, one or the other or both have suffered.

+1
If you want to Fold and Crunch at the same time the Fold on your GPUs and Crunch on your CPUs.
Been doing for a few years now this way.

bcavnaugh

cuarc001
You are misunderstanding YoYo's. The one from YoYo that you refer to is not Moo! Wrapper nor RC5-72. It is OGR28.
 
The work from YoYo is kept separate as far as stats go in DC-Vault from the stats generated running the distributed.net client for OGR-28
 
Edit: This was also true for when MUON was also in the DC-Vault.

So then only Moo! Wrapper http://moowrap.net/  is not feeding the DC-Vault Correct?
 
Maybe Non-BOINC Projects should be removed form the DC-Vault?
This would make it simpler than have to go through all the hoops or why is http://www.distributed.net/ not part of BOINC?
Do we want to move over from https://boincstats.com/en/stats/-5/team/detail/58913125/overview to the DC-Vault?
I am still tying to find how the DC-Vault works and it seems odd to me is all.
Sorry cuarc001 not to put a dent on you or the DC-Vault.
But what is the DC-Vault Providing over Free-DC and BAM?
http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=teambycpid&team=Crunching@EVGA
https://boincstats.com/en/stats/-5/team/detail/58913125/overview

Moo! isn't part of the Vault because they don't separate the stats. Therefore we try to avoid double dipping by not adding it. Those whom care about running Moo! Wrapper and having it count for DC-Vault will jump through the hoops. To answer why we don't require all BOINC... that is simple. It is called DC-Vault not BOINC-Vault. It was set up during early ages of DC when there were quite a few more independent clients out there. FAH for example would not be included if we made it BOINC only. There are BOINC only sites out there as is. There is no need to discriminate at DC-Vault due to client of choice. You may be wondering why not just use Moo! instead of distributed.net's client. Well it may surprise you, but their client actually has a very large user base and are very active. Many teams have a much larger vested interest using the non-BOINC client. And the current system allows for both showing your total contribution to the project.
 
YoYo does it different as the stats accrued from YoYo don't get tallied in with the main projects client's stats as far as a per user goes. So, those are filtered easily. That way you get Vault points for YoYo for the work done at YoYo and then you get Vault points for work done using the projects clients separately.
 
What it provides is essentially a never ending challenge. It isn't the traditional "stats site". BOINCStats only handles BOINC projects. Free-DC doesn't do challenges. DC-Vault is a never ending challenge centric site that happens to report a few basic stats. IMO it isn't a dedicated stats site as many come to look at in the above two. This never ending challenge typically only emcompasses projects that are known to be stable and are active.

And up until this past year PrimeGrid was doing the same thing as YoYo because 2 of the sub projects at PrimeGrid also had their own client and were part of DC-Vault.
Prime Sierpinski Problem - PRP
Seventeen Or Bust - SOB
 

cuarc001
And up until this past year PrimeGrid was doing the same thing as YoYo because 2 of the sub projects at PrimeGrid also had their own client and were part of DC-Vault.
Prime Sierpinski Problem - PRP
Seventeen Or Bust - SOB
 

But they where under testing before they became part of PG is what I have read.

What you are essentially saying is that you find it to be an inconvenience and don't like doing it....
 
And yes those two sub projects were active before PrimeGrid ever picked them up. Just as the sub project at YoYo were.

cuarc001

The Top 10 Teams have been the Top 10 Teams for a year now, I see no real challenge here.
Then they added GoofyxGrid and killed at least our team and all the other team with less than 100 active members.

Didn't kill H and yes we have less than 100 team members both at Goofy and doing BOINC in general counting WCG which only has ~50 active members at any given time.

World Community Grid is listed under Miscellaneous and should be under Biological And Medical Science.

So you think CEP2 and other prior non-bio/non-medical sub projects should be categorized as medical/bio? I don't understand this logic. WCG is humanitarian in nature. Not bio/medical.

I have not seen a CEP2 in a very long time but ok I see why WCG is not Biological And Medical Science in general.

Help Stop TB
FightAIDS @ Home - Phase 2
Outsmart Ebola Together
Mapping Cancer Markers
FightAIDS @ Home
Uncovering Genome Mysteries
The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2
 
Lets get back on Topic now.

We are all good here.

NxtGenCowboy
Is it normal for Moo GPU projects to only process one at a time?  

How many GPUs are install in your Computer?

You can set it to run one task per GPU or 1 Task and two or more GPUs.
*4 GPUs in this rig
Like this: app_config.xml
 
1 Task running using 2 GPUs with a max of 2 running tasks
 
 <app_config>
   <app>
     <max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
     <name>dnetc</name>
     <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>2.0</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
     </gpu_versions>
   </app>
</app_config>
 
 4 Task running one per GPU
 
<app_config>
   <app>
     <max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
     <name>dnetc</name>
     <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>1.0</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>0.25</cpu_usage>
     </gpu_versions>
   </app>
</app_config>
 
1 Task running on all 4 GPUs 
 
<app_config>
   <app>
     <max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
     <name>dnetc</name>
     <gpu_versions>
         <gpu_usage>4.0</gpu_usage>
         <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
     </gpu_versions>
   </app>
</app_config>
 

NxtGenCowboy

bcavnaugh

NxtGenCowboy
Is it normal for Moo GPU projects to only process one at a time?  

You can set it to run one task per GPU or 1 Task and two or more GPUs.
*4 GPUs in this rig
Like this: app_config.xml
 
1 Task running using 2 GPUs with a max of 2 running tasks
 
 <app_config>
<app>
   <max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
   <name>dnetc</name>
   <gpu_versions>
       <gpu_usage>2.0</gpu_usage>
       <cpu_usage>0.5</cpu_usage>
   </gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
 
 4 Task running one per GPU
 
<app_config>
<app>
   <max_concurrent>4</max_concurrent>
   <name>dnetc</name>
   <gpu_versions>
       <gpu_usage>1.0</gpu_usage>
       <cpu_usage>0.25</cpu_usage>
   </gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
 
1 Task running on all 4 GPUs 
 
<app_config>
<app>
   <max_concurrent>1</max_concurrent>
   <name>dnetc</name>
   <gpu_versions>
       <gpu_usage>4.0</gpu_usage>
       <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage>
   </gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
 

Got it!  Thanks!  One process per GPU or 1 crunch process for all GPU to handle. 

But let's say you want to run Moo wrapper or collatz conjecture. I can you use an app_config file to change each GPU to running 2 work units at a time, this doubles my output. If you do not believe me look at my score on collatz. So what I am doing is running 4 GPUs all the time and when I run collatz I am running 8 work units at a time 4 GPUS X 2wuS = 8 work units in about the same time it takes to run 4. That is why I have over a billion points on that project.