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Enjoy the piss poor experience MP will give you.

brilliant, I will! enjoy the sulk mate and thanks for the kind words!

anyone watched the streams of the SP yet?

oh no. my life is over.... I suppose that means no Christmas card this year.

Anyways, I was gonna link up the stream for the 1 player but it seems the vast majority have been removed, quality wasn't too great anyways. looked good though. No comments on the MP but the single player did look well constructed at least, not sure how long it is but a bud of mine was saying he watched the first 7 missions or so.

anyone who hasn't read the original blog piece by IW's Robert Bowling that's kicked this all off:

http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745

decent read, crap reasoning though.

I don't think they will do paid subscription. They want total control so the only place PC gamers can get new content is to pay Activision for it, plus to be able to pull the plug on the MP part or bring out streaming ad's players must watch before connecting to a server.

after reading the transcripts of the 'live' chat thing through best buy....no more defending these clowns from my end. I thought I had a good grasp of the situation but these guys really don't have a clue IMO.... I really don't know what to think now.

sidestep-dodge-avoid-sidestep.

transript of chat with IW via bestbuy forums.

(halfway down the page is where you wanna be looking)

just keeps getting better and better....we did a little informal poll in our clan and it was pretty much the same from all, they would gladly pay for additional map paks, just keep them coming, this is  of course on dedi servers...its just amazing that they would sit down in a room somewhere and decide to implement the worst strategies possible to promote the game...takes clueless to a whole new level

This game will break records alright.... The fastest one to the $5 bin, an highest % of canceled Pre-Orders in the history of gaming....

Rukian

Forgive me for my stupid question. But what is dedicated server use for? Why ppl want it so much?

 
Well since nobody answered your question: I posted a response back on the original forums based on the same question.
 
This is what I posted originally:
 
"For multiplayer, basically there will be no dedicated server. Essentially there is p2p matchmaking. Kinda like xbox live (example Halo 3).

I don't know much about the infrastructure of the game but from what I have seen each person will be selected (randomly) as the "host" of the game. If you live on a school campus w/ a private network and do not allow ANY port forwarding then you WILL expereience lobby disconnects. This can affect gameplay greatly if the person selected has poor download/upload connection.

At our school we were forced to go from a block of 2,000 public IP address to a new ISP of 30 IP addresses. Essentially we had to NAT our network and resulted in disconnections when students are selected as the host in an Xbox live game. School campus' have blocked student to student communication (atleast ours) to prevent worms and virus spamming. Also network broadcasting. This upset a lot of students because they could not play with a friend down the hall.

With a dedicated server there is no need to worry about poor connection to that server. It's always there. It's maintained. I don't want to have a bad gaming experience because Joe Shmoe's connection is a  1.5Mb/s download and 256Kb/s upload dsl connection.

Now, I may be wrong with the new infrastructure of the game but I'm basing my experiences as a network admin and a gamer.


Link: [link=http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/10/21/infinity-ward-responds-to-modern-warfare-2-petition/#more-28537]http://multiplayerblog.mt...2-petition/#more-28537[/link] "
 
 
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Secondly,
 
Activision has already invested too much money on the framework of the game. They will not go back and fix it. Not worth it. The money is in Console gaming and they're sticking to it. You can complain all you want, send out petitions, but nothing is going to happen. Accept it or find another game to pass the time.

 

fearslipknot

So the questions are, will you still be purchasing the game if there is no dedicated server support?
 
Do you think the petition will persuade them to add the dedicated server support?

No,  There is no way I'll buy it, and no, I don't think they plan to add server support later.  I think they have changed their entire business model and no longer care to have things the way they were.

while i am angry about this whole thing, i must know how the single player is.. so ill be buying it anyways

^ lol at the pc180 box gonsa.

but:

OMFG on the launch trailer dude!

all arguments aside regarding the MP, the SP is looking like something out of this world......and did I just see a space bit of the game? wow I nursing a semi for the SP big time now.

Possible that multiplayer will be capped at 18 players/server/

Source

Damn it that trailer looks exciting. I do not play MP but I want to support the guys that do. I am thorn. Someone help.

to add to the demise... 9v9 cap on players...

if i wanted to play a console like game, i would buy a console