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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/10/29 13:08:54
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MSim ensabannur oh no, no dedicated servers? whatever will I do...... Personally I don't really care about the lack of Ded. servers, sure it's a chore etc and it would be good for them to be included but at the end of the day the game will probably be the best one out so far this year. you're only depriving yourself of a quality game for a point that will make 0 difference to the situation if IW's mind is made up. Infact further damaging sales of pc games isn't a real good idea to encourage companies to keep making games for pc but I get it, it's you guys call and you're more than welcome to vote with your money. personally I think it's funny how at least 60% of the guys saying they won't buy it will be the first ones out there picking it up on release day. I'm far more shallow. IW can do what they want, as long as the weapons are hot, the graphics good and the killing frantic and satisfying I really could care less. I'm just really excited about this and looking forward to it. it's all good though the more of you don't buy it, the more noobs there are for me to clean up! :D good times. (just to be clear I've signed the petition too but I will be buying for PS3 and PC.) Another console scrub who fails to see why PC gamers are pissed at IW/Activision. Call of Duty was made what it is today from the PC community, and now IW/Activision is dropping its pants taking a big crap on the PC community. Do you even know how much IW is gutting the PC version? I hope you own Xbox 360 and not the PS3, the PS3 is having features cut unlike the Xbox 360. - Max players 16 (No Dedicated Servers so you can't have 32slots or higher)
- No community made content (want new content must pay for DLC)
- No mods that will add value to the game and keep it alive longer
- No gaming communities or competitive play
- Sub-Par Anti-Cheat System (no screenshots or MD5tool to catch cheaters)
- Player hosting the game will have 0ms ping (his shots will always register first)
Microsoft and game developers already have consoles users where they want them, milking money from them every chance they get. If you have 5-10mins read this awesome open letter to Infinity Ward. TL;DR Another uptight pc gamer with far too much time on his hands and also issues understanding the fact that some people don't give a crap out about dedicated servers or the lack there of. I get your drift but I really don't care about the bullet points highlighted above, sure it would be good if they were present but I really couldn't care less it's not gonna stop my enjoyment of a quality title.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/10/29 15:51:57
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Hey you two knock it off. We can all have opinions. Even if they are wrong Make love not War! Besides... A lot of us have consoles and PC's.. This is not an us vs them. If you think about it, it is kind of slapping ourselves in the face when we say that. This is all about a company we have really liked that produced some of the best versions of Call of Duty... Crapping down our throats less than a month before the official launch. Lets take our anger out on their wallets (Those that want to) and our gaming mice so we have an excuse to get new ones
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/10/29 20:52:58
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I think what you'll find that's missing is the option of playing with the same group of people, or the same class of players, which was one of the reason that CoD4 was such an amazing success. It was the first multiplayer FPS I played, and there is a lot that I'd miss about that. Not all clans are bad, and many of them have great servers and people in there. My other site used to host a damned good ranked server, and it was constantly filled while we had it. Once we closed our server down, I found other servers and clans that had excellent players, and I constantly improved my skills because of them. That ^^^ is going to be missing from MW2. That greatly saddens me, in large part, as it is going to be as good as MW, but worse. I was originally going to buy the game, and maybe still will, but not on release date. Activision also claims that clans can scrim in a so-called private match, but the reality is that there are no anti-cheat mods that will work there. Customizations, sure, but not mods. Also, no Sniper mods, no gun game mods, no zombie mods, etc. That's why this game will have a fairly short shelf life among PC players.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/10/29 23:26:35
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I'm surprised to see Activision/IW being this dumb, wasting time and money on iwnet when most PC gamers will not accept it. I wonder if Vegas is taking bets on how long it will take Activision/IW to scraps this idea and brings back dedicated servers. Do you guys think Treyarch will make a similar system for CoD7 or will they use this chance to save call of duty on the PC?
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/10/30 01:54:08
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If Treyarch doesn't use this mess to help their selves out then they don't deserve to have the franchise...they have been handed the golden goose...lets see what they do with it
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Message from Infinity Ward:
2009/10/30 02:01:20
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IWNET: You may be a mouth breather who doesn't know what the "~" key is for or where the "any" key is located, but by god you can still play our video game, and pay us more to do it. Infinity Ward is basically dumbing down the PC version either out of laziness, more control over the product, $$$$, or all of the above.. IWNET explained: http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745 Personally, I'm offended at how they presume to take all the thinking out of hosting a server.... It's as if they are implying we're stupid.
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Re:Message from Infinity Ward:
2009/10/30 06:25:44
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ZenDigital IWNET: You may be a mouth breather who doesn't know what the "~" key is for or where the "any" key is located, but by god you can still play our video game, and pay us more to do it. Infinity Ward is basically dumbing down the PC version either out of laziness, more control over the product, $$$$, or all of the above.. IWNET explained: http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745 Personally, I'm offended at how they presume to take all the thinking out of hosting a server.... It's as if they are implying we're stupid. +1...... Yep... All 15k + of those servers have no idea how to make it happen. Sad for IW...... /end continuation of IW disapproval....
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Re:Message from Infinity Ward:
2009/10/30 13:41:33
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Oh boy, i just got a wiff of a new discussion : it seems a lot of people are now getting p***ed off about the fact MW2 is a Steamworks game (aka tied to your Steam account so you can't sell it if you don't like it). I wonder why it took them so long to even notice that, since VAC usually = Steam game. Even people on the Steam forums are cancelling their preorders through Steam now... I wonder how Kotick and Bowling will react once they realise just how much potential customers they have scared away with these idiotic tactics. This game is so quickly becoming the epic fail of the year that i'm honestly wondering how much money they'll be spending on spindoctors and "buying" positive reviews from gamesites and magazines to try and counter this.
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Re:Message from Infinity Ward:
2009/10/30 14:48:02
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all I can say is if IW thinks IW net is so good then prove it with a single map multiplayer beta for the public to play modern airborne 2. IW I will never buy any games you ever make again, period. IW knows that all cod pc games have had a beta for public and now they are not doing so because they know sells are promised to drop even more for the uninformed people in the world. as for treyarch they are working on cod7 it is going to take place in vietnam era so no worries on the WWII genre there. Oh did I mention that on a live gamers broadcast they are talking about IW may be charging monthly fees to use their IW net? LOL! the epic fail, most over hyped let down game in PC history. R.I.P. IW
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Re:Message from Infinity Ward:
2009/10/30 16:19:48
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Monthly fee for iwnet is nuts, that would only work in the Asian market. They already pay for CS Online which is nothing more then CS:CZ modded, i bet half the skins for that game came form the modding community.
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Re:Message from Infinity Ward:
2009/10/30 22:06:21
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Dan Graves Oh boy, i just got a wiff of a new discussion : it seems a lot of people are now getting p***ed off about the fact MW2 is a Steamworks game (aka tied to your Steam account so you can't sell it if you don't like it). I wonder why it took them so long to even notice that, since VAC usually = Steam game. Even people on the Steam forums are cancelling their preorders through Steam now... I wonder how Kotick and Bowling will react once they realise just how much potential customers they have scared away with these idiotic tactics. This game is so quickly becoming the epic fail of the year that i'm honestly wondering how much money they'll be spending on spindoctors and "buying" positive reviews from gamesites and magazines to try and counter this. I don't really mind the fact that it's a Steam distro, I've been buying all my games via Steam for the past year anyway. If anything, because of Steam I put more effort into researching a game before I buy it.
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Why IWNET is a slap in the face to PC gamers [Video]
2009/11/02 06:40:38
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If you still have any doubts, watch. To those of you that think our gripes are a result of over thinking: This is only the beginning, sooner or later most of the companies will follow IW's lead and PC gaming as we know it will be over. Remember, PC gaming is not a seller's market yet, but it will be if we continue to put up with these things. Then one day, our PC's will be nothing more than overpriced consoles as far as gaming goes. If that happens, it WILL affect the enthusiast PC market which is supported in large part by PC gamers. Enthusiast hardware is expensive as it is, imagine if most PC gamers traded in their rigs for one of the Big 3 consoles. How would that effect the OC'ers and benchmarkers? Not all gamers are enthusiasts and not all enthusiasts are gamers but as I see it, you can't have one without the other. Whether you're an Intel/AMD or Nvidia/Ati fanboy, crap like this can and will effect us in the long run. Really, who the hell wants to OC a console?
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 08:12:04
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we should make a virus and not let anyone get on the servers so no1 else buys cod4
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 09:10:09
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yippeeeeee just over a week to go, I can't wait!!!!!!
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 12:23:19
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I won't be buying this game which is very disappointed and I did sign the petition and who knows they even listen to us. This game is for console fanboys and console n00bs. I'm going to pirate it for single player which will hurt them more. I told my self not to pirate games any more but this game is an exception. Batman aa is only single player and no MP but is worth every penny, I love that game.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 12:33:51
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^ dude I'd edit that post before the mods see it, piracy IS NOT COOL no matter what the reason behind it. see I love your logic too, you praise a short single player game (which I agree with as Batman AA was awesome) but then hate the ground MW2 treads because the MP isn't gonna be to your liking...it's still got SP and that will probably be as long as AA and MP but not in the way you guys require it for your online play...I don't understand the differential between BMAA and MW2, the dichotomy seems pretty limited IMO aside from the obvious genre differences. I get it dudes, I think I was a bit harsh in some of my other posts...it seems to me alot of you guys were uber excited about this title and have been seriously wounded by the dedicated server issue + other gripes. I can see where you're coming from however you do need to get it into your heads though that to some people this **** doesn't matter, and calling people n00bs and console scrubs just makes you guys just look like a bunch of grade A idiots and arrogant pricks.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 13:13:51
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seeing as how you will enjoy the game on console why do you keep coming back for more in this thread, you obviously do not understand what the loss of dedi servers means to the pc community, and nor do you care to according to your posts....hope its an awesome game on console for you bud, buts it truly DOA for pc, whether you like it or agree with it
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 13:20:02
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My friend tried this game on his modded x360. He said it is an excellent game. I am waiting for PC version though. Gonna buy it no matter what.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 13:27:13
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Yeah , VaC ftw, Why would they ever switch from pb to vac >>>?? Ive seen pb kick tons of ppl , and i have NEVER seen VaC kick and ban anybody on a server b4.The game will be riddled with haxxorz just like css. Hey i got a idea, Maybe for a small monthly fee iw can host a clan server for us !! <<< sarcasm. Im still on the fence here, I been spending a lil money beefing up my rig just to make sure it would play MW2 maxxed out smoothly, IF i do buy it , It will be to play the single player only ,, They can save the lag fest for the consolers.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 13:29:25
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doorules seeing as how you will enjoy the game on console why do you keep coming back for more in this thread, you obviously do not understand what the loss of dedi servers means to the pc community, and nor do you care to according to your posts....hope its an awesome game on console for you bud, buts it truly DOA for pc, whether you like it or agree with it ^ that might be the case man, but until I've actually played the game on pc and sampled the level of BS on show for that version I can't really say either way whether it's DOA or not. for me it's a more interesting thing as I'll only be playing online for approximately 6-8 weeks before I move over to the US in January to start college. so when I say 'I don't care' and 'it doesn't matter' to me I mean just that. I'm not gonna be actively online for a prolonged period of time so it's less of an issue for me. (hope that clarifies the situation a little) Even if I was playing religiously as I have been doing on the consoles (not so much this year though) and a bit of COD4 for PC the dedicated server thing isn't as much of an issue as I'm not a 'hardcore', it will be missed though but it's not an issue for me and there will be many users who feel the same. I understand the situation perfectly and as I've stated I've signed the petition and agree with the fact they should have dedicated servers available (I keep saying that over and over again). that doesn't change the fact I'll be rocking the game whenever I can and it will get a fair go for the limited time scale I've got to play it. one thing that did **** me off about MW2 was I read the new spec ops mode is 2 player? **** is that all about? Rukian My friend tried this game on his modded x360. He said it is an excellent game. I am waiting for PC version though. Gonna buy it no matter what. dude I can't wait, the SP is enough of a reason for me to buy this, LOVED MW1.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 13:30:48
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On a side note, Some game server companys are pre-ordering mw2 servers... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 13:34:00
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redderisbetter On a side note, Some game server companys are pre-ordering mw2 servers... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot dude, I just spat my coffee all over my keyboard! ROFL, man that was class. :D
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 13:58:40
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ensabannur ^ dude I'd edit that post before the mods see it, piracy IS NOT COOL no matter what the reason behind it. see I love your logic too, you praise a short single player game (which I agree with as Batman AA was awesome) but then hate the ground MW2 treads because the MP isn't gonna be to your liking...it's still got SP and that will probably be as long as AA and MP but not in the way you guys require it for your online play...I don't understand the differential between BMAA and MW2, the dichotomy seems pretty limited IMO aside from the obvious genre differences. I get it dudes, I think I was a bit harsh in some of my other posts...it seems to me alot of you guys were uber excited about this title and have been seriously wounded by the dedicated server issue + other gripes. I can see where you're coming from however you do need to get it into your heads though that to some people this **** doesn't matter, and calling people n00bs and console scrubs just makes you guys just look like a bunch of grade A idiots and arrogant pricks. Man whether im going to pirate or no is up to me but probably I'm not going to. In stead Im going to get BF Badcompany 2 which should be just like MWF2 but in multiplayer. I just want to punish IW some way. As for batman aa, is great but once you are done, it's it. But with MP you can keep playing and playing, competing, matches, trying out all sorts of approach with your friends. Like TF2 or L4D doesn't have a mission or storyline but we all play more hours on those games and never dies. L4d2 is around the corner and I already pre purchase it. There are many other great games like BF BC2 (which we have to wait till next year before it's out) and Arma 2 you name it. I'm not going to set and cry about not enjoying or what I expected 3 months ago till this news.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 14:04:21
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^ dude was just stating that as 'discussing' such things is a TOS violation (I don't agree with it myself but it is indeed your call if you're actually gonna do it, I know there's a lot of emotion flying around about this one) ;) when I make the comparison between BMAA and MW2 it's only in the sense that both will have SP that will be similar in length. BMAA was dope but very short and a bit of an anticlimax once you reach the closing stages of the game. BF2 is looking particularly sexy though, L4D2 I'm gutted about as I won't be able to fully play that due to lack of decent internets after my move (satellite internet = meh lol)
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 14:22:44
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ensabannur yippeeeeee just over a week to go, I can't wait!!!!!! Obvious troll is obvious.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 14:28:43
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Dan Graves ensabannur yippeeeeee just over a week to go, I can't wait!!!!!! Obvious troll is obvious. hey man I mean that 100% (it was a little inflammatory though you're right, I'll knock that **** off) I seriously can't wait, days off work booked and everything though.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/02 23:55:41
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Dan Graves ensabannur yippeeeeee just over a week to go, I can't wait!!!!!! Obvious troll is obvious. What do you expect from a person who only plays console games. Console users love not having the options or freedoms we do on the PC, nothing we can do to wake them up. Where do they think half the stuff in call of duty came from.. that's right it came from the PC modding community but now without dedicated servers and being able to mod the game IW cannot "borrow" modding community ideas for the next version.
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/03 00:14:17
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MSim What do you expect from a person who only plays console games. Console users love not having the options or freedoms we do on the PC, nothing we can do to wake them up. Obvious troll is obvious. get some skills. and FYI I haven't brought a console game in over a year.
post edited by ensabannur - 2009/11/03 00:17:17
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Re:Modern Warfare 2: IWNET
2009/11/03 00:28:38
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Enjoy the piss poor experience MP will give you.
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