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2014/11/07 03:14:55 (permalink)
If you've read my earlier post here, you would see the 970 FTW has severe TDP throttling issues which causes excess tearing, stutter, and GPU utilization hiccuping:
 
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I have modded a 970 FTW BIOS to fix those issues.  Don't use the BIOS on a base model or SC card, since I think those have a different voltage controller, while I think the SSC and FTW use the same one.
 
The only thing changed at all in the BIOS from stock is changing default TDP limit from 170w default/187w with 110% power slider, to 220w default/242w with 110% power slider.  The card will now hold full boost clock and 99% GPU utilization without constantly throttling, just like the Gigabyte 970.  I chose the 220w number for two reasons.  Each PCIE power cable is rated for 75w, plus the PCIE port is rated for another 75w, bringing the total to 225w and I wanted to keep numbers within spec to minimize problems.  The second reason is that I read the 970 has to pull power symmetrically from it's three power sources and you wouldn't really want to pull more than 75w from the PCIE port.  I don't know if that applies to all aftermarket cards, but Nvidia claimed it was a limitation.  If you leave the power slider at default, it should not have any issues.
 
The 970 FTW card uses four power phases, so you can't feed it enormous amounts of power, but the 570 GTX also had four phases and used 213w at stock, so the 970 FTW should be fine increased to 220w.  While running Metro 2033 Redux to test, the 970 FTW card wants 196watts of power in order to not hard throttle and cause tearing/stutter.  This means the stock BIOS is 26 watts short of power to not perform like an El Camino with power slider at default, and 9 watts short of power with slider at 110%.  Here's a picture while running the BIOS with TDP problems fixed.  Notice nothing is hiccuping and boost and GPU utilization hold solid.  The graphs look far better than the stock BIOS.
 

 
Link to BIOS and NVFLASH for Maxwell:
 
overclock net/t/1522035/evga-970-ftw-tdp-issues-requires-bios-mod-to-fix
 
1)  Place the files in a folder on your C drive
 
2)  Open Device Manager on your computer.  Under the "Display Adapter" tab, right click your 970 FTW card and click disable (I actually uninstalled Nvidia driver and reset computer before doing this step). 
 
3)  Open a command prompt (to get to it, open a windows search box and type "cmd" and when it comes up, right click it and run as administrator.
 
4)  Navigate to the folder with the files in it
 
5)  Type nvflash 225250.rom (or nvflash -6 225250.rom to override device ID for flashing a SSC card but I don't know if the SSC is compatible with FTW BIOS)
 
6)  Go back in Device manager and re-enable the card
 
 
 
 
post edited by r0ach - 2014/11/25 19:41:22
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/07 04:59:09 (permalink)
    What vcore does it allow you to reach?

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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/07 05:17:54 (permalink)
    Before using your BIOS what is the process to change the card to use an alternate BIOS so I can leave my original intact? Do I have to pull the card and change a switch?
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/07 06:19:43 (permalink)
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    Before using your BIOS what is the process to change the card to use an alternate BIOS so I can leave my original intact? Do I have to pull the card and change a switch?




     
    on the back of the card you will see tiny switches, right on the edge. With the computer shut down, use a paperclip or even something that is strong plastic, and switch them, the one that is on turn it to off and vice-versa.  

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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/07 06:59:52 (permalink)
    Does this mod void the warranty? 



     
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/07 09:13:02 (permalink)
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    Before using your BIOS what is the process to change the card to use an alternate BIOS so I can leave my original intact? Do I have to pull the card and change a switch?



    Another option: GPU-Z will allow you to save a card's current BIOS.

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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/07 09:25:35 (permalink)
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    Does this mod void the warranty? 



    As long as you do not physical damage the board with excessive voltage and flash it back to the stock bois, it shouldn't. That was stated by jacob somewhere before, i'll see if I can find a link. 
     
    EDIT: Couldn't find jacobs post, but I got Xray with a snipet of something from the warrenty docs. LINK
     
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    General information regarding Evga products:
     
     
    Using a Bios not authorized or condoned by Evga may void your warranty, if it is damaged by such Bios, and/or cannot be reverted back to the original Bios condition, including making the card inoperable by making such changes. Unauthorized changes to the BIOS or Firmware on a graphics card that does not have a Dual BIOS option, may cause this warranty to be null and void.


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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/07 10:02:46 (permalink)
    What is the 1080 Furmark for this mod?  Does it still slam into the ~1150-1200Mhz Tdp Limit?
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/07 10:14:31 (permalink)
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    Before using your BIOS what is the process to change the card to use an alternate BIOS so I can leave my original intact? Do I have to pull the card and change a switch?



    Another option: GPU-Z will allow you to save a card's current BIOS.


    Don't really need to do that, when all 3 bios switches are the same, aside from a fan profile? If I am not mistaken, Bios 2 and 3 are the same... Leave switch 1 at absolute stock, flash the crap out of 2 and 3 and if you Bork those two, then switch one still has a working bios.

    It was said in the past, as long as the card works and no physical damage is done, it retains it's warranty. Leaving number 1 bios at stock means the bios doesn't get damage.

    If you flash all 3 and the card turns into a brick, that kind of becomes physical damage by proxy that they have to remove the bios chips to fix it.

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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/08 11:18:34 (permalink)
    thanks for the bios roach!
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/08 14:12:42 (permalink)
    If anyone has trouble flashing the BIOS, I uninstalled the Nvidia driver and reset the PC before going through the flashing process.  TDP limit should show 101% power use before flashing in demanding games, and around 89% afterwards when the card boosts to 1400.
     
    A stock 570 GTX with only 4 power phases used around 220w, so my default 220w setting should be perfectly safe on this 4 phase card.  If you use Afterburner or Precision on the new BIOS to raise the power slider from the default 100% (220w) to 110% (242w), that's probably the highest power you would want to send through a 4 phases and might have some risk to it.
     
    People have blown up 570 GTX cards overclocking from 732 to 900, which if using linear scaling, would be 270w, but the card probably consumed more than that since overclocking isn't linear.  If you try to overclock the card to 1500+ on new BIOS, just be aware it *might* be possible to blow up a 4 phase card with 242w, but there should be no risk at 220w.  The risk probably isn't that high at 242w, but you never know.
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/08 14:40:39 (permalink)
    As long as either one BIOS is left as a stock or you can flash the card back to a stock BIOS, it won't void your warranty. The 970 FTW has two BIOSes. Switch 1 is the BIOS switch, switch 2 is a lock that will prevent you from flashing either BIOS. 
     
    No need to uninstall the driver every time you flash the BIOS, just disable the video card or cards in the Device Manager under Display Adapters, then re-enable them after the flash and restart your computer.

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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/08 14:46:32 (permalink)
    Will this make the card run hoter? My card already reaches 74 degrees when gaming.
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/08 14:53:34 (permalink)
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    Will this make the card run hoter? My card already reaches 74 degrees when gaming.

    If your 970FTW is reaching 74 degrees then I would say your PC chassis cooling needs to be re-examined

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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/08 15:02:27 (permalink)
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    If your 970FTW is reaching 74 degrees then I would say your PC chassis cooling needs to be re-examined



    You forgot they released a BIOS update for the 970 ACX 2.0 cards to make the fan much quieter at the expense of running hotter.  The 970 ACX 2.0 cards went from sorta loud and around 66c to 75-76c and mostly silent under load after the update.
     
     
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    Will this make the card run hoter? My card already reaches 74 degrees when gaming.



    Not really, around 1c maybe.
     
    Would you rather run with lots of tearing and stutter, or no tearing at all and 0.5c to 1c hotter? o_O
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/08 16:46:07 (permalink)
    Can anyone bother to post a pic with the bios switch on the 970ftw? For some reason I have trouble locating it . .
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/08 18:04:55 (permalink)
    Look at bottom right of pcb, (looking down while installed in mobo).  About an inch to the left are two micro switches. 



     
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/08 23:09:34 (permalink)
     
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    If your 970FTW is reaching 74 degrees then I would say your PC chassis cooling needs to be re-examined



    You forgot they released a BIOS update for the 970 ACX 2.0 cards to make the fan much quieter at the expense of running hotter.  The 970 ACX 2.0 cards went from sorta loud and around 66c to 75-76c and mostly silent under load after the update.
     
     
    PeKING
    Will this make the card run hoter? My card already reaches 74 degrees when gaming.



    Not really, around 1c maybe.
     
    Would you rather run with lots of tearing and stutter, or no tearing at all and 0.5c to 1c hotter? o_O


    you keep mentioning tearing over and over in this thread but tearing has nothing to do with throttling at all. and games will not stutter either just because you hit TDP. 
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 06:20:50 (permalink)
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    you keep mentioning tearing over and over in this thread but tearing has nothing to do with throttling at all. and games will not stutter either just because you hit TDP.



    Says who?  I noticed immediately the EVGA 970 FTW had way more tearing than the Gigabyte 970.  I also noticed the EVGA 970 could not hold 99% gpu utilization in games where the Gigabyte 970 could.  I then noticed the card was constantly pinging against the TDP limit over and over, so I made a BIOS to raise the TDP limit and now the excess tearing and fluidity problems are gone.
     
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 06:26:15 (permalink)
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     you keep mentioning tearing over and over in this thread but tearing has nothing to do with throttling at all. and games will not stutter either just because you hit TDP. 

    My card is the king of throttlers and i second that. Stutter and tearing does not relate to this. Of course the fancy plot of the hardware monitor graph stutters :)
    Reminds me on people seeing 30kHz tones in spectral views of audio and suddenly miss it in music when filtered out. No chance to hear it.

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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 06:35:23 (permalink)
    I tried this bios and while it reduced the TDP use from 100% to 90% it made no difference to clock speed, voltage or temps.
     
    Not sure what this means haha.

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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 07:17:17 (permalink)
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    My card is the king of throttlers and i second that. Stutter and tearing does not relate to this. Of course the fancy plot of the hardware monitor graph stutters :)
    Reminds me on people seeing 30kHz tones in spectral views of audio and suddenly miss it in music when filtered out. No chance to hear it.



    I used the game Lichdom as a test bed for testing 970 GTX cards.  I'm not some random fool that doesn't know how to configure a PC.  Using the Gigabyte card, I have 0 tearing with vsync off with the Gigabyte and 99% gpu utilization in that game.  When I tossed the EVGA into the computer, the tearing was all over the place and GPU utilization could not hold at a constant 99%.  Only after flashing to a higher TDP limit on the EVGA card did it go away.
     
    I have never had tearing problems on any of my systems in a long time pre-280gtx days, so the second the EVGA card went in and I saw tearing everywhere, I knew something was wrong.
     
     
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    I tried this bios and while it reduced the TDP use from 100% to 90% it made no difference to clock speed, voltage or temps.
     
    Not sure what this means haha.



    My clock speed would go up and down constantly at a fast rate between 1370's to 1390's while GPU utilization went up and down at the same time from 99% to 98% before flashing.  After flashing, clock speed holds at a solid 1404.8 and doesn't move and GPU utilization seems to stay at 99% now.
     
     
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 13:57:35 (permalink)
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    Look at bottom right of pcb, (looking down while installed in mobo).  About an inch to the left are two micro switches. 




    I see the tiny switches, 2 of them but how do I know which selected BIOS they're on and which of the two switches to move?
     
    If the 970 FTW has a double bios then why isn't it just a single switch to select BIOS 1 or 2?
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 15:04:54 (permalink)
    my FTW gets to 1531mhz during unigine benchmarks and stays pegged there, no stutters, no jumping up and down.
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 15:14:12 (permalink)
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    you keep mentioning tearing over and over in this thread but tearing has nothing to do with throttling at all. and games will not stutter either just because you hit TDP.



    Says who?  I noticed immediately the EVGA 970 FTW had way more tearing than the Gigabyte 970.  I also noticed the EVGA 970 could not hold 99% gpu utilization in games where the Gigabyte 970 could.  I then noticed the card was constantly pinging against the TDP limit over and over, so I made a BIOS to raise the TDP limit and now the excess tearing and fluidity problems are gone.
     


    you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about at this point. even a card working properly  will throttle in various scenarios because that is how they are designed. no one  should ever see stuttering because of that unless the card is defective or there is driver issues. and screen tearing has zero to do with throttling and is only related to vsync.  
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 16:59:21 (permalink)
    While Modding the bios brings significant clocks by taking off the security feature that EVGA or Nvidia manufacturer place to protect it from over voltage. The voltages are needed to apply more on the vcore resulting higher clock speeds. The issues that can result is over heating which adequate cooling such as water, liquid, or nitro cooling. Another issue can result is bricking your graphics card which happens if the bios mod isn't compatible. Most modders will notice if the image is being played then they're in the clear; however, doing this extreme enthusiast technique of modding the gpu bios will result in validation of your video card's warranty. It is advised that if you don't have money to spend around don't try this mod.
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 18:43:19 (permalink)
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    I see the tiny switches, 2 of them but how do I know which selected BIOS they're on and which of the two switches to move?
     
    If the 970 FTW has a double bios then why isn't it just a single switch to select BIOS 1 or 2?


    It has triple bios support according to http://www.anandtech.com/show/8568/the-geforce-gtx-970-review-feat-evga/2
    With two switches, there would be 4 positions (00, 01, 10, 11). I'm not sure how the mesh of 3:4 plays out.. If you find out let us know.  There is also a close up picture of the switch in the anandtech article, although it sounds like you found it.  



     
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 19:00:39 (permalink)
    r0ach, I've been following this thread and one of your others since I've been having crazy throttling issues with my EVGA GTX 970 ACX 2.0.  Will your BIOS work with my card, or is it for FTW cards only?
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 21:03:56 (permalink)
    trek554
    you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about at this point. even a card working properly  will throttle in various scenarios because that is how they are designed. no one  should ever see stuttering because of that unless the card is defective or there is driver issues. and screen tearing has zero to do with throttling and is only related to vsync.  

     
    Seriously are you 10 years old?  I posted actual evidence of GPUZ graphs showing the gpu utilization issues where the EVGA FTW card could not hold 99% gpu utilization in Lichdom while the Gigabyte card could.  The issue was fixed by raising TDP.  If you for some reason think I'm lying about this also causing excess tearing and stutter, the GPU utilization issue is plain as day to see and how it was also fixed by raising TDP.  It's 100% my word vs yours and I actually posted proof and you have 0 proof of anything except childish name calling.  Do you own a Gigabyte 970 and an EVGA 970 to compare the two either like I did?  No? didn't think so.
     
    If you're going to tell people "they don't know what they're talking about", you should try to avoid using caveman English with no capitalization, while also starting all of your sentences with "and".
     
     
     
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    my FTW gets to 1531mhz during unigine benchmarks and stays pegged there, no stutters, no jumping up and down.

     
    So on a website with much more knowledgable people about overclocking than this one, Overclock dot net, people overclocking MSI 970's with a 220w TDP limit were getting throttling at 1500mhz, yet you want me to believe your EVGA card doesn't throttle at 1500mhz with only 187w TDP limit?  I suppose it might be possible, but it would be comparing the worst binned MSI on the planet vs the best binned EVGA on the planet if true, then still probably not likely.  Either that or you're using the wrong game to determine just how much power the card can draw.
     
    My EVGA 970 FTW needs 196watts to not throttle at 1400mhz in the most graphically demanding games.  I'm running an EVGA Supernova 1300w PSU with a single 970 GPU card so I'm not exactly straining my PSU here...
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    Re: Modded BIOS to fix 970 FTW severe throttling issues w/ link 2014/11/09 21:23:24 (permalink)
    r0ach
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    you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about at this point. even a card working properly  will throttle in various scenarios because that is how they are designed. no one  should ever see stuttering because of that unless the card is defective or there is driver issues. and screen tearing has zero to do with throttling and is only related to vsync.  

     
    Seriously are you 10 years old?  I posted actual evidence of GPUZ graphs showing the gpu utilization issues where the EVGA FTW card could not hold 99% gpu utilization in Lichdom while the Gigabyte card could.  The issue was fixed by raising TDP.  If you for some reason think I'm lying about this also causing excess tearing and stutter, the GPU utilization issue is plain as day to see and how it was also fixed by raising TDP.  It's 100% my word vs yours and I actually posted proof and you have 0 proof of anything except childish name calling.  Do you own a Gigabyte 970 and an EVGA 970 to compare the two either like I did?  No? didn't think so.
     
    If you're going to tell people "they don't know what they're talking about", you should try to avoid using caveman English with no capitalization, while also starting all of your sentences with "and".
     
     
     
    chrcoluk
    my FTW gets to 1531mhz during unigine benchmarks and stays pegged there, no stutters, no jumping up and down.

     
    So on a website with much more knowledgable people about overclocking than this one, Overclock dot net, people overclocking MSI 970's with a 220w TDP limit were getting throttling at 1500mhz, yet you want me to believe your EVGA card doesn't throttle at 1500mhz with only 187w TDP limit?  I suppose it might be possible, but it would be comparing the worst binned MSI on the planet vs the best binned EVGA on the planet if true, then still probably not likely.  Either that or you're using the wrong game to determine just how much power the card can draw.
     
    My EVGA 970 FTW needs 196watts to not throttle at 1400mhz in the most graphically demanding games.  I'm running an EVGA Supernova 1300w PSU with a single 970 GPU card so I'm not exactly straining my PSU here...


    so clueless and a jerk? you dont get tearing and stuttering from hitting the TDP limit no matter how many times you repeat it. 

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