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2021/10/24 08:29:46 (permalink)
I would like to know if mining is a condition that you cannot be covered from evga warranty.
An official statement would be awesome
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 08:48:09 (permalink)
https://www.evga.com/warranty/graphics-cards/Default.asp

Look at the part that talks about blockchain.

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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 08:51:33 (permalink)
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https://www.evga.com/warranty/graphics-cards/Default.asp

Look at the part that talks about blockchain.

its clear, its forbidden.
My next question is, how evga can prove that gpu was used for mining
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 09:28:44 (permalink)
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https://www.evga.com/warranty/graphics-cards/Default.asp

Look at the part that talks about blockchain.

its clear, its forbidden.
My next question is, how evga can prove that gpu was used for mining

Based on what you say or the pictures you show and stuff like that, I assume. The same way Intel handles warranties related to overclocking and using unapproved memory, I assume.
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 09:41:26 (permalink)
Well a company can’t act based on what you say . What if I say that I never mined and actual my gpu was 24/7 mining. If they can’t prove that I was mining then they should allow it
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 11:22:08 (permalink)
 Registered I presume
post edited by Nozler - 2021/10/24 11:24:57
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 12:27:14 (permalink)
And people like me paying 2.000 euro for a single gpu. It’s all my fault for evga’s profits . People need to calm down
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 13:28:26 (permalink)
Honesty I'll go with Crap he's right you know Evga used and abused. But I'll be quiet until I get scolded again. Crap on that
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 13:42:39 (permalink)
i never offended anyone. I was asking how evga can prove if someone, me or anyone else, is mining. Was a simple question, technical oriented.
 
If you think that you have a point by calling me a scumbag, a clown or a cancer, then i cant do anything about it. Only admins
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 13:50:34 (permalink)
could you please stay on topic? question still remains, for anyone who wishes to answer it. Others can pass, instead of offending or posting irrelevant 
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 13:54:45 (permalink)
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i never offended anyone. I was asking how evga can prove if someone, me or anyone else, is mining. Was a simple question, technical oriented.



Cuz they can deny a warranty and they don't really need to proof it cause you can't proof you didn't mine with the card either.  You've likely just got your account flagged as possible miner and can say goodbye to any warranty claims.  And you got snippy after your initial question was answered and you didn't like the answer.
 
If you want to mine with the card - you can, but you are knowingly voiding the warranty.
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 14:00:59 (permalink)
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i never offended anyone. I was asking how evga can prove if someone, me or anyone else, is mining. Was a simple question, technical oriented.



Cuz they can deny a warranty and they don't really need to proof it cause you can't proof you didn't mine with the card either.  You've likely just got your account flagged as possible miner and can say goodbye to any warranty claims.  And you got snippy after your initial question was answered and you didn't like the answer.
 
If you want to mine with the card - you can, but you are knowingly voiding the warranty.




So, if im right, there is no technical evidence.
Im quite sure that they cant deny a warranty and imo they need to prove  that someone is mining, and not the miner has to prove that didnt mine ( presumption of innocence )
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 15:49:52 (permalink)
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So, if im right, there is no technical evidence.

Correct. It comes down to your morals. As I said, the same way Intel handles it.
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 16:59:26 (permalink)
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xorxhs
So, if im right, there is no technical evidence.

Correct. It comes down to your morals. As I said, the same way Intel handles it.

Thank you for your answer, sir. 
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/24 20:06:54 (permalink)
 
 
Honestly they can tell if they took the time to look at the card's memory and overall processor wear.
 
I don't mine on equipment I care about.  I use out of warranty gaming laptops, 2 of them.  At best I make a few $100 a year.  
 
Now investing your spare change in cryptos that might go up in value one day.. that's the best bet.  This way you won't kill $2k+ GPUs..
 
 

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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 04:18:19 (permalink)
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Honestly they can tell if they took the time to look at the card's memory and overall processor wear.
 
I don't mine on equipment I care about.  I use out of warranty gaming laptops, 2 of them.  At best I make a few $100 a year.  
 
Now investing your spare change in cryptos that might go up in value one day.. that's the best bet.  This way you won't kill $2k+ GPUs..
 
 


Some report that heavy gaming is more stressful for the GPU than light mining. There is a lot of debate about it. Fact is that chip shortage leads to demand problems of GPUs, not the miners
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 05:07:08 (permalink)
This thread will probably be enough evidence to deny a RMA. Good luck. How much do you make mining ? $20 a day before power? Talk about picking up nickels
post edited by redteamgo - 2021/10/25 05:13:19
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 05:09:16 (permalink)
Wow, lack of arguments gives you the right to offend me , calling me whatever you like . And you are talking about ethics and integrity ?
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 05:15:22 (permalink)
Deny rma when there is no rma. Well … ok
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 07:27:56 (permalink)
Cards abused by mining usually have some obvious "tells."
It's really not hard at all to determine.

But good luck with your attempt to defraud EVGA after publicly stating your intent.
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 07:32:34 (permalink)
I don’t want to abuse or fraud anyone and anything . It’s really frustrating how easily can judge others .
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 08:29:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby xorxhs 2021/10/25 13:10:30
General warning for all forum members:

Vulgar language, EVEN MASKED AS AN ACRONYM, is against the terms of service for the forums.

I understand folks are opinionated one way or the other about mining. Mining is expressly against the terms of warranty for the products sold by EVGA. That is between the buyer and EVGA.

All of these discussions should be had like adults where you agree without turning into middle schoolers and calling names or getting vulgar. You all are absolutely allowed to disagree, but keep it civil. Berating someone because they asked a legitimate question will solve nothing.

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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 12:25:57 (permalink)
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Correct. It comes down to your morals. As I said, the same way Intel handles it.



Its more than just morals.  Legally - if done intentionally - it amounts to warranty fraud.  Laws will vary by country and jurisdictions.
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 14:38:04 (permalink)
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Correct. It comes down to your morals. As I said, the same way Intel handles it.



Its more than just morals.  Legally - if done intentionally - it amounts to warranty fraud.  Laws will vary by country and jurisdictions.

I agree. But I figure that morals determine the fraud you are willing to commit. If it weren't fraud, it wouldn't require morals.
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Re: Mining and warranty issues ? 2021/10/25 14:58:46 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby xorxhs 2021/10/25 17:20:58
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I am Going to leave this thread Locked ... OP can contact webmaster@evga.com if you want it unlocked
 
OP your question --> Was answered
 
xorxhs
I would like to know if mining is a condition that you cannot be covered from evga warranty.
An official statement would be awesome


 
Sajin
https://www.evga.com/warranty/graphics-cards/Default.asp

Look at the part that talks about blockchain.

 
 
The EVGA Forum members seem to have acted/posted on your followup questions .... the issue was taken as your looking for a workaround - whether you meant it to be or Not, that seems to be the reason for the replies. Hey maybe your just curious about it .. However, everyone can see all of your posts on the subject ... even in other threads
 
 
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https://www.evga.com/warranty/graphics-cards/Default.asp

Look at the part that talks about blockchain.

its clear, its forbidden.
My next question is, how evga can prove that gpu was used for mining


 
 
The Bottom line:
 
EVGA clearly states many reasons in their Warranty Terms, that COULD Void your warranty 
 
SEE: EVGA Warranty - (look under your area of the World for your terms)
 
 
Basically your looking too deep "How can EVGA Prove ......."
 
The EVGA Warranty Terms as written set forth the "Usability of their Product" ... the Products are warranted against "Manufacturing Defects"
 
The EVGA product is Not warranted as "Indestructible - if used in a way that is expressly listed as Voiding the EVGA Warranty"
 
 
 
 
     IMO ... yes, analysis of the failed card - can be attributed to warranty Voiding activity .. fairly Easily based on accumulated Data of other failures & the physical condition of the failed hardware
 
 
 
I am a Volunteer Moderator & Not an EVGA Employee ... the Above statements are My Opinion
 
 
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