ty_ger07

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"You should be fine with those :) Actually going forward the QVL memory lists will be retired, no real known compatibility issues with memory that falls under spec."

That's a pretty lazy approach. The purpose of QVL is to verify that the memory works and so that the motherboard manufacturer has a chance to work with the memory and optimize the board's sub-timings. If the QVL is retired, memory compatibility could suffer and memory performance could suffer.

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ty_ger07

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"You should be fine with those :) Actually going forward the QVL memory lists will be retired, no real known compatibility issues with memory that falls under spec."

That's a pretty lazy approach. The purpose of QVL is to verify that the memory works and so that the motherboard manufacturer has a chance to work with the memory and optimize the board's sub-timings. If the QVL is retired, memory compatibility could suffer and memory performance could suffer.

It depends on how they do it, really.
 
For example, if you look at the z490, it says "Memory Support – 2 DIMM Dual-Channel (up to 64GB) DDR4 4800MHz+" on the specs. If they did a good enough job testing all sorts of memory up to that point and everything works great, than I don't see an issue with it. If there are 25 kits in the world that run 4800MHz and only 1 of them is compatible...yeah...no good. I think the execution is the important part and we can only wait to see how that goes.

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ty_ger07

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ty_ger07

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"You should be fine with those :) Actually going forward the QVL memory lists will be retired, no real known compatibility issues with memory that falls under spec."

That's a pretty lazy approach. The purpose of QVL is to verify that the memory works and so that the motherboard manufacturer has a chance to work with the memory and optimize the board's sub-timings. If the QVL is retired, memory compatibility could suffer and memory performance could suffer.

It depends on how they do it, really.
 
For example, if you look at the z490, it says "Memory Support – 2 DIMM Dual-Channel (up to 64GB) DDR4 4800MHz+" on the specs. If they did a good enough job testing all sorts of memory up to that point and everything works great, than I don't see an issue with it. If there are 25 kits in the world that run 4800MHz and only 1 of them is compatible...yeah...no good. I think the execution is the important part and we can only wait to see how that goes.

What does that have to do with testing, validating, and optimizing board sub-timings?

Literally everything. If they test and validate a wide enough range of memory, do they really need to call out specific skus? What happens if a year after they put out a qvl, there are 100 new skus out there. Should they test all of them? Where/when does it end? I'm not even saying you're entirely wrong (or even wrong at all) with your concerns, I'm just saying if they're thorough enough, I don't care if there's a specific list of narrowed down parts when many others will work just as well.

bk1887
Just wondering where the lists of ''deemed incompatible RAM" are. I'm unable to locate them.
 
I have come across people who have bought RAM not on the QVL that have had to run the RAM at JEDEC settings because they get things like blue screens when trying to run an XMP profile. And these are kits that are well inside spec on these boards. Note examples I have readily available are ASUS boards, I don't know of anything with EVGA boards though I would like to know what EVGA believes it does differently than other board manufacturers to ensure that virtually any kit inside spec will be compatible. Also what if the user community finds a kit that does not run stable with an XMP profile and must run at JEDEC settings? Do we contact support and let them know so it can be addressed in the next BIOS update?
 
Thanks in advance. I would really appreciate if someone from EVGA can respond to this. This is the single factor that is making me nervous about purchasing an EVGA board. If I know that EVGA has a good system in place for addressing memory incompatibility issues for kits that run well inside MB spec without any oddball's around the particular kit like Voltage out of spec with DDR4/5 (i.e. increased voltage on some kits to hit high frequencies) that would allay my concerns.
 
As a system builder I've always bought from the QVL and have never had a problem following this approach, I also recommend this approach to any new system builder. I don't feel that EVGA's messaging has adequately addressed the gap that having no QVL leaves. Ideally would also like to see this messaging made clear to consumers on the site.