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2017/04/28 11:53:10 (permalink)
HEY EVERYONE just thought I would create a thread that everyone can give their 2 cents on this phenomenon that has been going on for easily a decade. IMHO I believe that SLI was really worth it back in the day, and performance #s back then easily merited the extra cost.  However in modern times I feel it has gone from "glorious performance" to "let me just spend a chunk of extra money for bragging rights".  I really believe powerful single card setups are the "now" and the "future" optimizations or not, I use to be sooo gung-ho in doing SLI/XFIRE, but now I honestly don't believe the extra cost is necessary especially if majority of the "legit serious gamer community" do water cooling which is easily a couple hundred (Depending on how extreme you want to get)on top of the already high SLI/XFIRE costs, display driver headaches over the years for multi-monitor setups and consistent scaling issues in like 75-85% of games.  But don't let my opinions stop you for trying to justify extra cost even if you got the dinero.  
 
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/28 12:48:30 (permalink)
    Since 2008, the 4 PCs I have assembled have had 2 or 4-way SLI. That being said, I agree with you that SLI is on its decline and has started to become more of a headache than a benefit.
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/28 12:52:27 (permalink)
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    Since 2008, the 4 PCs I have assembled have had 2 or 4-way SLI. That being said, I agree with you that SLI is on its decline and has started to become more of a headache than a benefit.

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/28 13:04:41 (permalink)
    IMHO one nice 3440x1440p Ultrawide monitor plus a single powerful gpu is the ideal gaming setup.  Just simple, yet subtle.
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/28 13:30:01 (permalink)
    SLI has never worked as advertised with constancy. Even Nvidia is getting tired of supporting it in all forms anymore. Gone are the days of 3 and 4-way SLI. The same could be said for the mediocre support Nvidia has for things like 3D Vision Kit and in the future my guess is the same will be said of the VR stuff they're doing right now. Nvidia is seeing the fruits of thier labor in proprietary tech underminded by their own lack of support and customer interest. It's always been the best to get the largest single GPU card you can get. That won't change any time significantly in the future. Too many variables in multi-GPU integration make it unreasonable in the long term.
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/28 13:42:56 (permalink)
    I posted this in another thread, and I'm not sure if I should like to the other thread or just quote myself.  Don't want to get on the bad side of any moderators.  With that said, here is my own quote:
     
    So here's my thoughts on the SLI thing.  Way back (I mean WAY back) I ran single cards and usually upgraded every 1.5-2 years.  Then when SLI started becoming a "thing" (anyone remember Dawn and Dusk?), I went with SLI GTX280's (~2008).  I then upgraded to SLI GTX465's (~2011), even adding a 3rd card somewhere down the line, before moving on to the SLI GTX 680's (~2014).  I didn't upgrade again until my most recent purchase, two christmas's ago, SLI 970's (~2015).  Every SLI setup I've had didn't decrease the time before upgrading and TBH the bump between cards probably would have been just as noticeable had I stuck to a single card for upgrades.  For the GTX 1080TI, I'm going back to a single card system.  SLI doesn't work in every game, I run at 1440p and I run 4 monitors.  So, I'd say it's overkill, especially if you plan on doing an upgrade every other year.  Just my $0.02.
     
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 10:48:28 (permalink)
    It's funny when you think about it because it's the easiest it's ever been for game developers to support multiple GPU setups, but their laziness has become such an issue that fewer and fewer games benefit from it especially at launch.
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 13:53:07 (permalink)
    Most setups you don't need SLi.

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 14:58:50 (permalink)
    SLI died a long time ago. Its just becoming more official now. All it is for e-peen bragging rights and "look at me" my numbers are huge. So damn stupid but what ever. I swear people care more about numbers and damn benchmarks then actual gaming on PC. Is PC gaming that dead right now or people just really that bored with their "monster" pc's? Maybe pissing contests are more entertaining for them then gaming. So it seems.... 
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 15:03:40 (permalink)
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    SLI died a long time ago. Its just becoming more official now. All it is for e-peen bragging rights and "look at me" my numbers are huge. So damn stupid but what ever. I swear people care more about numbers and damn benchmarks then actual gaming on PC. Is PC gaming that dead right now or people just really that bored with their "monster" pc's? Maybe pissing contests are more entertaining for them then gaming. So it seems.... 


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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 15:10:23 (permalink)
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    SLI died a long time ago. Its just becoming more official now. All it is for e-peen bragging rights and "look at me" my numbers are huge. So damn stupid but what ever. I swear people care more about numbers and damn benchmarks then actual gaming on PC. Is PC gaming that dead right now or people just really that bored with their "monster" pc's? Maybe pissing contests are more entertaining for them then gaming. So it seems.... 


    Or Finding a Cure




     
    Of course. But it just seems like the majority love the pissing contests and bragging rights instead though. 

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 15:33:26 (permalink)
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    SLI died a long time ago. Its just becoming more official now. All it is for e-peen bragging rights and "look at me" my numbers are huge. So damn stupid but what ever. I swear people care more about numbers and damn benchmarks then actual gaming on PC. Is PC gaming that dead right now or people just really that bored with their "monster" pc's? Maybe pissing contests are more entertaining for them then gaming. So it seems.... 


    Or Finding a Cure


    Of course. But it just seems like the majority love the pissing contests and bragging rights instead though. 


    True,
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 15:48:47 (permalink)
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    SLI died a long time ago. Its just becoming more official now. All it is for e-peen bragging rights and "look at me" my numbers are huge. So damn stupid but what ever. I swear people care more about numbers and damn benchmarks then actual gaming on PC. Is PC gaming that dead right now or people just really that bored with their "monster" pc's? Maybe pissing contests are more entertaining for them then gaming. So it seems.... 


    Enthusiast computer building has for the last decade has been about huge ungainly system. I'm seeing more min-max mITX setups now that can blow away the performance of most full tower setups though. Seeing something like a mITX 22-core X99 Titan XP rig is much more interesting than a 200 pound box.
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 16:03:45 (permalink)
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    SLI died a long time ago. Its just becoming more official now. All it is for e-peen bragging rights and "look at me" my numbers are huge. So damn stupid but what ever. I swear people care more about numbers and damn benchmarks then actual gaming on PC. Is PC gaming that dead right now or people just really that bored with their "monster" pc's? Maybe pissing contests are more entertaining for them then gaming. So it seems.... 


    Enthusiast computer building has for the last decade has been about huge ungainly system. I'm seeing more min-max mITX setups now that can blow away the performance of most full tower setups though. Seeing something like a mITX 22-core X99 Titan XP rig is much more interesting than a 200 pound box.


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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 17:03:42 (permalink)
    in my opinion not really, better off spending money on a decent single gpu due to current support on some games 
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/04/30 23:09:51 (permalink)
    It really depends on the gamer. If you are playing at 1080p then not really but if you doing 4k gaming then SLI could help or if you are doing VR. Probably by the time 4K becomes like doing 1080p now we will be talking about 8K gaming as the TV's have been shown off at CES already so it will not be long before computer monitors start becoming a thing.

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/04 15:02:46 (permalink)
    Well someone correct me if I'm wrong but the problem lies with the complications in developing games that utilize the additional processing and same goes for high core count CPUs. If game engines focused more on controlling the different cores and GPUs efficiently, there would be so much potential but alas, I don't see that happening at least any time soon.
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/04 22:10:45 (permalink)
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    SLI died a long time ago. Its just becoming more official now. All it is for e-peen bragging rights and "look at me" my numbers are huge. So damn stupid but what ever. I swear people care more about numbers and damn benchmarks then actual gaming on PC. Is PC gaming that dead right now or people just really that bored with their "monster" pc's? Maybe pissing contests are more entertaining for them then gaming. So it seems.... 




    Some of it is "look at me",  some of it is trying to scrounge out that last bit despite the instabilities of SLI.

    Show me a single card that can run my set up at the same FPS that my SLI (+) system does and I'll buy it.  But until then, Im afraid I'll remain one of "those people".

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/05 04:35:10 (permalink)
    Main Rigs
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    My 2nd Build was q-sli
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    But Nvidia and AMD look to be dropping support for 3 way and 4way and even regular SLI is starting to get dropped by Nvidia.


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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/05 09:16:32 (permalink)
    I'm running my new GTX 1070 FTW2 on my new 3440 x 1440 and it is so nice. I wish manufactures would come out with MB's that support overclocking and only one GPU.

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/05 09:26:08 (permalink)
    With the amount of power and efficiency of single video cards SLI almost seems relatively unimportant. A GTX 1080TI for example should be able to handle any game regardless of the amount of eye candy in the game so long as there is an equally good CPU. However if you are folding at home or crunching for medical research a 2nd card will definitely allow more folding/crunching.

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/05 09:34:37 (permalink)
    for gaming at anything under 4k  probably not. but still totally worth it for benching, folding, misc compute tasks etc. 
     
    i just came from 980ti sli to 1080ti and i am really enjoying not having to mess with the SLI profiles and Windows 10 issues with SLI. That is not a bad thing just for some its not worth messing with it. others enjoy hacking SLI profiles for games that dont support OOB etc.   to each their own. 

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/05 09:45:09 (permalink)
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    With the amount of power and efficiency of single video cards SLI almost seems relatively unimportant. A GTX 1080TI for example should be able to handle any game regardless of the amount of eye candy in the game so long as there is an equally good CPU. However if you are folding at home or crunching for medical research a 2nd card will definitely allow more folding/crunching.


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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/11 19:58:29 (permalink)
    I did SLI twice and both times it was a massive headache. Cool concept, but not always practical. Cards are getting to be really great now, but it will always have it's place since software gets more and more complex and hardware requirements continue to rise.
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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/13 10:43:06 (permalink)
    I almost would wonder if the one thing that might save it is the PS4 Pro and Project Scorpio. I kind of see those as the end of the current generation of consoles and the start of next generation though they say the older consoles will not be replaced and they will continue to run the new games it will be at reduced settings. Giving developers the GPU power that those systems have isn't really pushing the envelope of what PC GPU's can do but it is going to allow developers to do a lot more in ported games and could drop the frame rates to the point where SLI becomes an option for silky smooth frame rates while these consoles are dropping to frame rates in the 30's.

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2017/05/13 14:37:05 (permalink)
    IMO, it's worth it. Gonna need it for 4k 144Hz too. 

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2020/09/08 10:51:37 (permalink)
    Please forgive my ignorance, but I want to check in on this topic in September of 2020. New 30xx cards are coming out later in the month, and since SLI has been replaced by NVLink (and only on 3090's!), I was wondering if having 2+ video cards in a system conveys any benefits, or if it's better to not even bother? Also, are game devs any better about utilizing SLI/NVL than in the past?

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2020/09/08 10:59:08 (permalink)
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    Please forgive my ignorance, but I want to check in on this topic in September of 2020. New 30xx cards are coming out later in the month, and since SLI has been replaced by NVLink (and only on 3090's!), I was wondering if having 2+ video cards in a system conveys any benefits, or if it's better to not even bother? Also, are game devs any better about utilizing SLI/NVL than in the past?



    First question is your display setup .... & does the game you want to play support SLI ?
     
    Two GPU in SLI are not twice a powerful as a single GPU, diminished returns ... but hey if you want every last FPS or to set benchmark records ....
     
    Best to run a powerful single GPU ---> unless your monitor(s) make the experience painful ... resolution, refresh & number of monitors
     
    Some people love the bragging rights .. or run multiple GPU that are not in "SLI" .. just depends on what your doing

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2020/09/08 11:16:41 (permalink)
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    Scourge78
    Please forgive my ignorance, but I want to check in on this topic in September of 2020. New 30xx cards are coming out later in the month, and since SLI has been replaced by NVLink (and only on 3090's!), I was wondering if having 2+ video cards in a system conveys any benefits, or if it's better to not even bother? Also, are game devs any better about utilizing SLI/NVL than in the past?



    First question is your display setup .... & does the game you want to play support SLI ?
     
    Two GPU in SLI are not twice a powerful as a single GPU, diminished returns ... but hey if you want every last FPS or to set benchmark records ....
     
    Best to run a powerful single GPU ---> unless your monitor(s) make the experience painful ... resolution, refresh & number of monitors
     
    Some people love the bragging rights .. or run multiple GPU that are not in "SLI" .. just depends on what your doing


    I'm running two non-Gsync 4k displays, and sadly, I never check to see if the games I play support SLI. I don't care about benchmarks, but I do realize that 4k displays require more resources to run than lower res ones do. I am not a hardcore gamer, and I am certainly not up to date with my game library.
     
    Sounds like I ought to get one beast of a card.....

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    Re: MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION: IS SLI WORTH EXTRA COST OR IS IT ON BRINK OF BEING DEAD?? 2020/09/08 14:58:12 (permalink)
    It comes down to your budget and your itch of trying something new. I'd tried SLI. I know the advantage and disadvantage of having one. Now, i just enjoy having a single GPU.
    Like many others have in this forum.

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