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2022/11/11 16:19:14 (permalink)
Hi. I have 12900K stock

32 GB 2x16 GB DDR4 3600mhz

Palit Gamerock Pro OC rtx 4090

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Windows 11 2H22. Updated new nvidia drivers.

I used 1080P,DLSS PERFORMANCE,RT ULTRA,rest ultra for testing fps.


I am talking about bottleneck or something is screwed or dont trust youtube gameplays. Last time i explain.

I go to 1080P + PERFORMANCE DLSS,and my fps stay the same. 90-100fps in that scene.

gpu usage 50%. Screen:



I compared with someone with 12700K ,3080 ti and he have here 110-120fps on the same settings. No bottleneck.



So why he have on the same place 110-120 fps and 80-90% usage? i have 90-100fps and gpu usage 50%and less fps fps than 12700K and 3080 ti on the same settings.
1080P Rt ultra,dlss performance
 
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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/11 16:29:34 (permalink)
DLSS upscales from a lower resolution than you're outputting. What happens if you try running the game natively at 720p? Typically the lower the resolution, the less the graphics card has to do and could result in it waiting for instructions, causing lower performance.
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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/11 16:50:03 (permalink)
The same fps on 720p. Nothing change. Only gpu usage go down.
 
So that person have on the same place 110-120 fps and 80-90% usage. i have 90-100fps and gpu usage 50%and less fps fps than 12700K and 3080 ti on the same settings. Its - > 1080P Rt ultra,dlss performance

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/11 22:28:55 (permalink)
I have issue with CYberpunk on 12900K and rtx 4090 on 1440P . Dlss is not working. I am gettin the same scores and fps on all 3 modes of dlss. Any ideas? my drivers is up to date. DLSS Quality,performance,ultra performance ,no fps gain in benchmark and game.
Here someone with Rtx 4090 and hes dlss is working in benchmark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w870r8oRjGQ

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/11 22:38:39 (permalink)
Your card is a Palit 4090 right? Have you registered your card and call Palit customer support and see what they think?
I would call their technical support and ask them if you're missing a setting somewhere.

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/11 22:51:53 (permalink)
But my 3dmark scores are fine.
 
I dont use DDU when installing new drivers. I just update it. Maybe thats why dlss is screwed?

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/11 23:15:40 (permalink)
What are the scores when you turn off DLSS? It could be a bottleneck that isn’t the GPU that would give the same results at 1080p without DLSS used.

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/11 23:43:22 (permalink)
When i turn off dlss on 1440P,gpu usage is 99% and fps is lower yes. And again ,when i turn on DLSS on 1440P it giving me more fps ,but between all DLSS modes: QUALITY,PERFORMANCE,ULTRA PERFORMANCE ,fps is the same,only gpu usage is changing. Fps the same.
 
 
When i go from 1440P to 1080P without DLSS fps is higher. But then on 1080P turning on/off dlss not working, also switching between dlss modes QUALITY,PERFORMANCE,ULTRA PERFORMANCE not working again.
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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 00:22:31 (permalink)
If no other game if affected by this issue I would make a technical bug report with the game developer. 

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 00:29:59 (permalink)
The same thing happened in Metro Exodus i checked now. So why it happens?

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 00:37:02 (permalink)
Windows 11 22H2 is a big fail... https://forums.evga.com/M...g-Issues-m3586002.aspx


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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 00:39:53 (permalink)
Hmmm  so it can be that windows 11 update?

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 00:40:47 (permalink)
Possibly.


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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 00:46:37 (permalink)
Its not because i have slow cpu or faulty? 12900K

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 00:51:00 (permalink)
Last gen cpu already outdated? Doubt it. If your cpu is running at its advertised speeds in game, and you're not getting blue screens then I highly doubt your cpu is faulty.


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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 00:53:44 (permalink)
HMm ok i will try first drivers after released 4090 , and i will post.

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 02:06:21 (permalink)
Its the game again. I found someone with Rtx 4090 and 12700K. On 4k but he plays with DLSS settings and no fps change between DLSS modes. Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt4rQsTKWQ8&t=304s
 
 
So why that happens its driver issue or what? Look at usage its so low. I am gettin the same 50-60% lol.
 
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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 04:02:44 (permalink)
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Its the game again. I found someone with Rtx 4090 and 12700K. On 4k but he plays with DLSS settings and no fps change between DLSS modes. Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt4rQsTKWQ8&t=304s
 
 
So why that happens its driver issue or what? Look at usage its so low. I am gettin the same 50-60% lol.
 
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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 04:55:58 (permalink)
I compared with some youtube user, intensive cpu scene in Metro Exodus EE.
I used 1440,extreme preset,RT ULTRA,rest ultra for testing fps.Exactly like him.

Here is screen:

 
But i have here 50% gpu usage and 100fps. Is this because i have DDR4 3600mhz and 12900K?

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 06:00:47 (permalink)
only in todays world will people whine about only getting 100 FPS.
 

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/12 06:23:27 (permalink)
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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/13 17:07:49 (permalink)
Switching ( without DLSS, DLSS OFF )from 1440P to 1080P giving me more fps,yes. Normal.
When i am on 1440P and go to DLSS QUALITY i have more fps yes, normal. But issue is that between dlss QUALITY or ULTRA PERFORMANCE there is 0 differene in fps.
Only screen is more blurred ( so i guess its working ) ,but there is 0 performance difference. Any ideas?
 
I compare benchmark scores with youtube user and he got 145fps on that settings in benchmark, when me 115fps because dlss is screwed. Any ideas?  Here someone with Rtx 4090 and hes dlss Ultra Performance is "working" in benchmark: 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyANyi1W0r8
 
 
 
 
He is using 13900K ( but that doesnt matter here ,its benchmark ).

 

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/13 19:47:53 (permalink)
Have you tried Windows 10 yet?
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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/13 20:37:21 (permalink)
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Have you tried Windows 10 yet?

no no but everone testing on win11
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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/14 10:18:34 (permalink)
Windows 11 is known to cause problems and produce inconsistent gaming results. You can't compare against other Windows 11 results for the reason that inconsistent performance is a known problem.
Until you are willing to eliminate a known potential problem, you and everyone else is wasting time guessing.
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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/14 11:08:12 (permalink)
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Windows 11 is known to cause problems and produce inconsistent gaming results. You can't compare against other Windows 11 results for the reason that inconsistent performance is a known problem.
Until you are willing to eliminate a known potential problem, you and everyone else is wasting time guessing.

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/14 11:25:15 (permalink)
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Have you tried Windows 10 yet?

no no but everone testing on win11




It's called troubleshooting. If there is a known problem like some people are having problems with windows 11 and others are not having problems. The only way to know if win11 is the cause of your problems is to run win10 and see if your hardware works with no issues in win10
If there is a known issue and you are not willing to eliminate that know problem you are wasting your time and everyone else's  time
So take a spare hard drive ( I know you have one sitting around) and load windows10 and see if that eliminates the problems you believe you are having. 

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/14 13:27:06 (permalink)
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Have you tried Windows 10 yet?

no no but everone testing on win11




It's called troubleshooting. If there is a known problem like some people are having problems with windows 11 and others are not having problems. The only way to know if win11 is the cause of your problems is to run win10 and see if your hardware works with no issues in win10
If there is a known issue and you are not willing to eliminate that know problem you are wasting your time and everyone else's  time
So take a spare hard drive ( I know you have one sitting around) and load windows10 and see if that eliminates the problems you believe you are having. 


Oki so format And install win 10? I can try of course. From where you know  ( I know you have one sitting around) ? No i dont have win 10 on other hdd. Must install from pendrive all at start to end.

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/14 14:07:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tmmy34 2022/11/14 15:31:07
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Have you tried Windows 10 yet?

no no but everone testing on win11




It's called troubleshooting. If there is a known problem like some people are having problems with windows 11 and others are not having problems. The only way to know if win11 is the cause of your problems is to run win10 and see if your hardware works with no issues in win10
If there is a known issue and you are not willing to eliminate that know problem you are wasting your time and everyone else's  time
So take a spare hard drive ( I know you have one sitting around) and load windows10 and see if that eliminates the problems you believe you are having. 


Oki so format And install win 10? I can try of course. From where you know  ( I know you have one sitting around) ? No i dont have win 10 on other hdd. Must install from pendrive all at start to end.


I didn't say you had win10 already installed on a spare drive, I bet you have an extra hard drive sitting on a shelf or in a draw somewhere. The way you always upgrade you have to have an extra drive sitting somewhere .
If not Newegg has 240gb SSD for around 20$ now a days. 
So install on another drive, don't format your win11 drive that you're using now incase it's not the issue.
Come on tmmy34 installing windows is not all that difficult, takes about 15 minutes on a SSD.
You're spending more time asking questions on a few forums on what is wrong. 
Now get to it.

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Re: Low performance on Cyberpunk2077 using DLSS Performance and Rt ultra ,rtx 4090 2022/11/14 15:31:40 (permalink)
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Have you tried Windows 10 yet?

no no but everone testing on win11




It's called troubleshooting. If there is a known problem like some people are having problems with windows 11 and others are not having problems. The only way to know if win11 is the cause of your problems is to run win10 and see if your hardware works with no issues in win10
If there is a known issue and you are not willing to eliminate that know problem you are wasting your time and everyone else's  time
So take a spare hard drive ( I know you have one sitting around) and load windows10 and see if that eliminates the problems you believe you are having. 


Oki so format And install win 10? I can try of course. From where you know  ( I know you have one sitting around) ? No i dont have win 10 on other hdd. Must install from pendrive all at start to end.


I didn't say you had win10 already installed on a spare drive, I bet you have an extra hard drive sitting on a shelf or in a draw somewhere. The way you always upgrade you have to have an extra drive sitting somewhere .
If not Newegg has 240gb SSD for around 20$ now a days. 
So install on another drive, don't format your win11 drive that you're using now incase it's not the issue.
Come on tmmy34 installing windows is not all that difficult, takes about 15 minutes on a SSD.
You're spending more time asking questions on a few forums on what is wrong. 
Now get to it.


Yeah i will do tommorow. I am tired after work. But sure i must try win 10. :) Thanks
 

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