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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/26 22:03:16 (permalink)
That could be the PSU or motherboard. Check your voltages on your power supply, see what your 12v, 5v and 3.3v readings are. 

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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/26 22:14:10 (permalink)
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This is the latest screenshot



Doesn't that show that the card is at 63C while running at 23W.........? That's wrong, not much cooling going on there.  Unless you were running it and JUST dropped out of a load, but that's still really hot.  Are you sure the coolant is pumping, it's full and there isn't a massive air bubble in the card?  It should be idling at like 25C or less.
 
What kind of fittings and hose did you use to plumb your cooling system into the card?  Are you still getting good cooling on the cpu?
 

post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/12/26 22:53:54
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 04:57:57 (permalink)
This is probably going to sound like a dumb question, but I was under the impression that the card I purchased didn’t need to be hooked up to my cooling system ? Am I mistaken ?
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 05:16:37 (permalink)
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This is probably going to sound like a dumb question, but I was under the impression that the card I purchased didn’t need to be hooked up to my cooling system ? Am I mistaken ?

Yes, grossly. It needs water flowing through it.
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 05:21:55 (permalink)
Ugh...I’m completely at a loss now. Do I need to purchase anything additional to make the connections. Sorry for what I see as basic questions but I’m just getting back into the game and this definitely is a little but above my level right now
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 06:33:05 (permalink)
You will need some compression fittings and probably some tubing. Snap some pictures of everything in the case and we can help guide.

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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 06:37:15 (permalink)
Oh Jesus. Sorry man. I was going to ask that specifically last night but thought it might be rude, you never know what people's experience levels are.

You need two fittings to go into the GPU, some of the correct tubing, distilled water and cooling additive. Then you plumb it into the cooler system that you have. You do actually have what I posted a pic of?

Do research!! Youtube vids, guides online. But its dead easy. Easier than changing the oil on a car. You can get parts at Microcenter if you have one near by.

Otherwise just return it and get an air cooled card. But the Watercooled card is totally worth it. Your son will be the coolest kid in school and it will be a valuable learning experience.
post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/12/27 06:42:04
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 07:03:17 (permalink)
Not rude at all Kevin, I’m just pissed at myself because I’m usually OCD when it comes to research and everything and I totally dropped the ball on this one. Yes the photo you posted is my exact cooling system, except I swapped out the pump because the old one stopped working. I have some fluid left from when I did that project. I just need to get some tubing, my current tubing is 1/2ID and 3/4 OD, and some barbs and / or compression fittings. Do you guys know if the the treads are 1/4 for that card, website isn’t easy to find the details. I do have a micro center but closed till tomorrow, and I’m not sure if they will have what I need, have never been in there. I can order the stuff from amazon for a Sunday delivery seems like best case right now. I will post a pic of the inside of my computer in a few so you guys can see the layout.
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 07:06:00 (permalink)
I will get some pics in a few, the picture posted above by Kevin is my exact system if that helps.
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 07:11:26 (permalink)
Here are some photos, please let me know if you need anything else

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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 10:05:02 (permalink)
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Not rude at all Kevin, I’m just pissed at myself because I’m usually OCD when it comes to research and everything and I totally dropped the ball on this one. Yes the photo you posted is my exact cooling system, except I swapped out the pump because the old one stopped working. I have some fluid left from when I did that project. I just need to get some tubing, my current tubing is 1/2ID and 3/4 OD, and some barbs and / or compression fittings. Do you guys know if the the treads are 1/4 for that card, website isn’t easy to find the details. I do have a micro center but closed till tomorrow, and I’m not sure if they will have what I need, have never been in there. I can order the stuff from amazon for a Sunday delivery seems like best case right now. I will post a pic of the inside of my computer in a few so you guys can see the layout.



Looks like a standard G1/4 fitting, here is the block manual with all the details:
 
https://www.evga.com/supp...les/400-HC-1289-B1.pdf
 
Microcenter should be open today, they have an in depth stock of water cooling custom parts.  About $30 in tube and fittings should fix you right up.
 
https://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx
https://www.microcenter.c...er-cooling-accessories
 
 
post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/12/27 10:18:03
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 10:21:23 (permalink)
Oh yeah, you're also going to want to have a look at your fan directions while you're at it, everything looks like it's intake, which isn't right.
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 12:06:25 (permalink)
Before you open up that loop, make sure to dust out that case really well. Personally, i'd take one of the connections from the CPU and route it over to the video card, then route the other video card port over to the CPU. Not sure if you have a drain port or not. If you don't have one, I highly recommend adding one.

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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 12:32:49 (permalink)
Luckily I found a micro center that was only an hour away from home, so after a few hours Of commuting I was able to pick up what I needed. I did a flush of all the old fluid and cycled a few rounds of distilled water through the system and just filled it up with the new coolant. No leaks thank god so far. Gonna let it cycle for a bit and then hook it back up. Wish me luck, and thanks for all the help.

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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 14:00:16 (permalink)
Well thought I had a success. Everything installed, drivers updated, screenshots r the values, honestly not sure if they are good or not anymore, but definitely better than last nights before the water cooling. Had GeForce optimize all the games and launched Fortnite, frame rates were well over 215fps and then all of a sudden a white screen on both monitors, and since then I get no video signal on either monitor. Computer is running, video card is running as is water cooler and keyboard and mouse. I’ve disconnected both monitors and reconnected them by themselves and still the same result. So frustrated at this point

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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 14:27:00 (permalink)
So like no video period, at all?
 
Are there graphics on the MB you can plug into, to troubleshoot?
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 15:01:04 (permalink)
I would try reseating the RAM and double check all of your power connections to make sure nothing got pulled loose by accident.

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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 15:04:13 (permalink)
No video at all, everything seems to be running on the computer but nothing to the monitors. There is no on board video card. I have the old video card, but to install it I would need to drain the water cooling system to uninstall the new card.
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 15:06:26 (permalink)
You aren't running individual power cables to the GPU, it looks alot like you're running a single daisy chained cable.  Preferably you're supposed to have two separate cables.
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 15:07:30 (permalink)
I reseated everything including the memory and the video card
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 15:08:54 (permalink)
Correct I just used the cables that was used for my old video card
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 15:10:57 (permalink)
You can install your old card in the 2nd or 3rd PCIe slot.
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 15:15:24 (permalink)
Ok I will do that and see what happens. Do u think it’s a power supply issue ? Do I need separate modular cables To power the video card
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 15:43:09 (permalink)
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Ok I will do that and see what happens. Do u think it’s a power supply issue ? Do I need separate modular cables To power the video card



It's not likely to be the issue, but it's generally preferable to be using two separate cables and people have had problems that were resolved by using two separate cables.
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 15:47:32 (permalink)
Do you think it’s a bad card ?
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 16:01:36 (permalink)
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Do you think it’s a bad card ?



Welllll.......running it without cooling against the thermal limits for several minutes at a time wasn't the greatest thing in the world, but the 83C limit is pretty conservative. There are pretty strong power cuts taken by the card to protect itself and then obviously it crashes.  They are pretty durable and meant to take a pretty good amount of heat.   I don't know if that's enough to fry it, but many gpu's have died over time from excess heat.  It may have been weakened by riding the thermal limit and then when it took full power with normal temps it could have pushed it over the edge.
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 16:06:05 (permalink)
I completely understand that, but it turning off without the cooling would make me think it wasn’t fried, and also it booting up and running after the cooling was installed I would think was a plus. Was the numbers I posted after I installed the water cooling within the acceptable numbers ? If it was fried would it still run and have all the leds run on it ?
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 16:19:06 (permalink)
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I completely understand that, but it turning off without the cooling would make me think it wasn’t fried, and also it booting up and running after the cooling was installed I would think was a plus. Was the numbers I posted after I installed the water cooling within the acceptable numbers ? If it was fried would it still run and have all the leds run on it ?



Yeah the 33C at 20w isn't the greatest but considering all the factors involved is normal.
 
Having it come back up for a bit was good, but there's a big difference between it being able to run at idle vs. under full load where it failed.  Knowing what the temps were right before failure would have been helpful, if the card was running at a normal 50C-ish it would have been taking full power and trying to run a high clock, which is stressful.
 
Cards can fail in all sorts of ways.  Did you try the other output ports?  Are you sure there's no leaking?  Inspect the power connectors?
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 16:27:22 (permalink)
I am going to try each individual display port and see what happens. No leaks at all and I disconnected and reseated the power connectors to the card. The screenshot I posted was right before I launched the game, and it legitimately crashed 2 minutes later. Never actually got to play the game, saw the FPS and then went into settings and changed the option to limit FPS at 144 to unlimited and I saw that it was at around 210 FPS for about 15 seconds before the screen went white
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Re: Looking for Video Card to upgrade my system 2019/12/27 16:32:46 (permalink)
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I am going to try each individual display port and see what happens. No leaks at all and I disconnected and reseated the power connectors to the card. The screenshot I posted was right before I launched the game, and it legitimately crashed 2 minutes later. Never actually got to play the game, saw the FPS and then went into settings and changed the option to limit FPS at 144 to unlimited and I saw that it was at around 210 FPS for about 15 seconds before the screen went white



Having an FPS limit means the card isn't running at full power, unlimited will make it hit full power, which shouldn't normally be an issue.  Would have been helpful to know the temps, X1 has an on screen display that can be used to monitor temps, I use Afterburner's OSD all the time.
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