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2020/04/23 18:23:24 (permalink)
Ok so I have way to much time on my hands.So last week I finally watercooler my 1080 classy. Due to the screwing around I now find my self in possession of an Alphacool Esibaer 240mm which will plug into my Alpacool Eiswolf. I currently have an Evga CLC280mm cooling cpu. So I want to leave the 280 Evga on cpu and connect the Esibaer to my Eiswolf so I have a 240mm radiator and 120mm radiator but using the Eisbar as a my reservoir and back up pump. Alphacool says it's safe to use both pumps but will I run into a problem not using it on my cpu? I know it's an overkill for the 1080 classy. But I think with some custom tubing it would be functional and work well and be a custom loop in it's own right. Thanks for all the input into the forums it really helps a lot for us rookies
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/23 18:39:35 (permalink)
I don't see why not other than being careful when filling the small reservoir unless it's already prefilled.

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/23 18:49:43 (permalink)
Ya everything is pre filled plus i grabbed fluid for when i run my own tubing. the quick disconnects are neat but horrible and ugly. I was thinking of grabbing a flow indicator box and removing the quick disconnects.i will start with the hosing i have and then once i have it all figured out i will get some nice stuff. I have a friend trying to get the evga cooler saying with the two radiators and two pumps can cool the whole system but really like the Evga block. It will be my own GTX 1080 Kingpin. Just joking not trying to insult

 
 
                           
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/24 00:59:07 (permalink)
I wouldn't add much to those AIO pumps since they are exactly that, low powered with just enough flow.  The EVGA HC blocks are known to be a bit restrictive as you'll want nothing less than a more power premium pump running such a block with a full custom loop.

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/24 01:23:13 (permalink)
There is really no point in doing what you are asking. It won’t appreciably decrease temps on your card as the 1080 isn’t saturating the capacity of your current radiator. 

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/24 04:57:08 (permalink)
The main reason I am doing it is to use the Eisbaer pump as a second pump for safety after seeing one of the GPX pumps die.once i get another 240mm radiator I am going to remove Evga CLC and just use the custom loop. Everything I read says the Eisbaer is a DC LT 2600 pump. I understand what your saying about saturation but every person i have talked to says the rule of thumb is 120mm rad for each component and to double if overclocking. which is why my goal is 240mm for gpu and 240 mm for cpu and then later purchasing a reservoir pump combo which all of this is to prepape for 70c RTX cards

Could someone suggest a good pump. I know the ones I am using are the weak link.
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/24 09:55:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tattude69 2020/04/24 10:51:21
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The main reason I am doing it is to use the Eisbaer pump as a second pump for safety after seeing one of the GPX pumps die.once i get another 240mm radiator I am going to remove Evga CLC and just use the custom loop. Everything I read says the Eisbaer is a DC LT 2600 pump. I understand what your saying about saturation but every person i have talked to says the rule of thumb is 120mm rad for each component and to double if overclocking. which is why my goal is 240mm for gpu and 240 mm for cpu and then later purchasing a reservoir pump combo which all of this is to prepape for 70c RTX cards

Could someone suggest a good pump. I know the ones I am using are the weak link.



If you're going to add a good premium pump, you might as well just keep the existing radiators but will need blocks for both CPU/GPU.

DDCs and D5s are the big boy pumps.
 
Also, it's not 120mm for every components.  A single 120mm won't cool well.  It's usually 120mm for every 100w-150w but most will start with 240mm for each components and that should be good enough unless you're looking for the best deltas possible at low audibles, than you enter the overkill and diminshing return configurations.

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/25 11:01:01 (permalink)
Thank you for the pump recommendation. i was going to go with the Eisbaer Extreme for the D5 pump but it was to big for my case.
For now i am going to use both Radiators on the Gpu see what happens i can always remove one if no improvement. i just felt the gpu should have at least a 240mm.
Well i managed to put
240mm rad in top of case push/pull
120mm rad Rear Exhaust push/pull
Eisbaer DC 2600/Block Reservoir
Evga CLC 280mm for CPU in push/pull
140mm Air Flow fan lower front
 
And of course i forgot to buy a fan controller or splitter for PWM
of course the only thing in my junk bin is an old Cooldrive6 but  it only does 3 pin, plus i am not sure if i trust its kinda old loke me
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/25 13:43:54 (permalink)
There are several PWM controllers out there.  


1. Corsair Link
 
2. Aquacomputer Aquaero 6 XT/Pro/LT (Cheaper of the other two without a screen)
 
3. Aquacomputer's QUADRO and OCTO (Cheapest solutions in the market.)  I think the OCTO is a beefed up version of the QUADRO.

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/26 05:09:41 (permalink)
i hate to pay it but i think i am going to go with the corsair link. the last 4 years i used the H100i and i never had any issues. Worked great with my hardware. the biggest frustration i have had with this project was losing the Corsair link it was great for changing profiles and i would use it to record if i was troubleshooting or benchmarking. I screwed up buy selling the H100i yesterday to a friend i should of used it as a fan controller. Oh well live and learn. If i did my math right the only 2 headers that could be over an 1amp would be CLC and GPU Pump
CPU Fan Header (Evga CLC)///Aux Fan Header (Gpu Pump)// Eisbaer Direct power///Fan 1 header 2 Ml pro 140 Front rad///Fan 2 Header 2 ml pro 140 Inside front rad///Fan 3 header 2 Aurora Pro///Evga CLC pigtail 2 Aurora Pro////2 Corsair SP ran direct with resistor to power supply and 140mm air flow direct powered the only 3 i can not control Using an app Remote System Monitor on old Note 3 for real time monitoring pretty cool app once i realized a dollar donation removed adds. Just ordered commander pro plus it will be nice to play with the leds on the ml fans. I have to say these forums are great most people think i have 3 heads the way i spend just as much time screwing with my computer as gaming.Thank god the wife likes shoes and handbags it helps when making impulse purchases
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/26 10:40:24 (permalink)
The nice thing about the Corsair Link is any Corsair hardware you add like their RAM, CPU Block, RGB fans can all be sync'd together which I have done for parts of my build (RGB Only) while the rest is controlled and monitored by an Aquaero 6 XT.

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/27 06:32:05 (permalink)
My local computer store is going to hopefully get more of the Octo back in stock much cheaper then quadro. worse case looks like i can order one from canada. Thank you very much the Octo looks perfect for what i want. i am trying to avoid giving ups a drive bay.
I think the Octo for fans corsair link for the ML fans i have will do the job

 
 
                           
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/27 09:57:11 (permalink)
Yep, the OCTO looks amazing and great on budget.
 
The other great news is, you can use the Aquasuite Software.  I think you get a version of free updates or something like that.

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/29 03:27:44 (permalink)
Right now the only place I can find the octo in stock is a company out of Canada but they want like $70 just for shipping. Which is more then the controller its self. So I am trying to be patient. Not my best quality. I am loving these temps. Gaming my gpu is staying between 32c and 35c. Now my cpu is the hottest device in the case because of the Evga CLC but that still averages between 35c and 41c . I cant wait to add a DC5 pump w reservoir and XPS cpu block

 
 
                           
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/04/30 17:21:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tattude69 2020/05/04 01:20:29
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Right now the only place I can find the octo in stock is a company out of Canada but they want like $70 just for shipping. Which is more then the controller its self.



I can help you with that, I'm in Canada, if you order the controller to my address, I'll forward it to you in US and it will cost you less than what the store is asking. PM me to discuss if you are interested.

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/06 12:19:20 (permalink)
That is a nice offer, a213m! I like the info grid you have in the case. :) +1
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/07 18:41:21 (permalink)
Thank you. Ya this forum has a lot of great people, who step up and help others
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/14 12:14:41 (permalink)

Well Patience paid off ModmyMods came through for me. The OCTO is crazy for the $55.00 they charge and for another $10 i was able to run my corsair products without a separate hub or Link or commander pro. Have to recommend to any one if they need PWM fan control will work for 3pin fans but just monitoring or Off function.
So now i have a few days of figuring out the software(work in Progress) to keep busy till next week then its A Next D5 pump with 280mm rad and i will be able to remove the Evga Aio and when i finally upgrade components all i need is a new gpu block and possibly cpu block. Thank you guys so much for opening my eyes
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/14 17:44:22 (permalink)
Hey no problem and welcome to the AC fam. 
 
What you're currently doing is just the beginning.  You might catch the bug and grab a Aquaero 6 with all the bells and whistles.  

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/16 07:05:09 (permalink)
Honestly i have been thinking about the Aquaero 6 but i am not willing to give up the space.in order to have a drive bay free i would have to give up my front mounted 280mm rad, But i was told buy tech support that as long as i hook it up and activate it once, that i could remove the screen from the Aquareo 6 and use it as a hideaway. the screen is needed for for first activation so it registers as an XT and not an LT. With me buying the D5 Next i dont think i will need the Aquareo 6. Between the Octo and the electronics of the Next D5 i believe i will have close to the same control and monitring,but i love the idea of the remote function of the Aquareo 6.
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/16 11:58:05 (permalink)
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Honestly i have been thinking about the Aquaero 6 but i am not willing to give up the space.in order to have a drive bay free i would have to give up my front mounted 280mm rad, But i was told buy tech support that as long as i hook it up and activate it once, that i could remove the screen from the Aquareo 6 and use it as a hideaway. the screen is needed for for first activation so it registers as an XT and not an LT. With me buying the D5 Next i dont think i will need the Aquareo 6. Between the Octo and the electronics of the Next D5 i believe i will have close to the same control and monitring,but i love the idea of the remote function of the Aquareo 6.
Bells and whistles are cool. Lmao




There are several things you can do.  You can get the AQ6 XT and remove the screen when needed or almost half of the cost, you can get a LT version.  It's basically the same as an XT without the screen.  Some put it in the bay while others put it elsewhere or valcro it somewhere hidden in their build.  Just make sure there's a little airflow going through if you're going to pack it up.
 
The AQ6 can control voltage while the Next D5 can't and possibly including the Octo too.  The AQ6 has curves and a bunch of other stuff the other devices can't do but if you're not interested in all of that, than yeah, what you have and getting is perfectly fine.

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/18 06:54:30 (permalink)
The D5 Next is PWM controlled which the Octo has fan curve,PWM%, and temperature control. Would their be any benefit to voltage control? One i get the D5, i plan on removing the (Eiswolf and Eisbaer Pumps and Evga CLC) which at that point everything i have will be PWM control. Thank you for the input Maybe i should read the manual for AQ6 XT. Honestly i am still kinda figuring out the Octo.Once i am done with this i plan on using the Alphacool pumps for a media center build so the AQ6 might be the option for that build i know those pumps have voltage range from 7v to 12v.
I think this week i am going to pull Evga CLC add the 280mm rad so i can baseline everything so i will be able to see what benefit the  D5 Next gives me vs the DC2600 LT pumps. I have to laugh after spending 25 years in the Auto Industry of the similarities between Automotive and Computer Modding. I just learned that the problem i had with the Eiswolf is that they had three revisions. First one has a flat backing plate (no cutouts) incorrect screws caused alot of GPU's to fry. 2nd revision had cutouts in backing plate and incorrect screws( workable)( kit i have) 3rd revision had backing plate with cutouts and proper screws.Only large moving models saw 3rd revision. It appears they also went to great lengths to make sure none of it was documented. Makes me wonder if we might not see safety recalls on water cooling parts in the future. Lmao 
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/18 12:31:21 (permalink)
I wouldn't touch their pumps.  They are known to have issues with them over the years.  I only like their radiators.  They make nice rads like the ST30, 60, etc.  At the end of the day, I'd stick with the D5 Next. 
 

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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/20 18:11:29 (permalink)
i completely agree on the pumps but would rather use them on some old hardware then to sell them or throw them out and they are still better then stock cooling solutions in my opinion. Thanks again for the education.I will stick with the Alphacool Rads but really looking forward to getting the D5 Next installed just waiting till i get paid then i get the fun of finding one in stock. My local computer shop sells out within hours 

 
 
                           
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/20 18:30:06 (permalink)
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i completely agree on the pumps but would rather use them on some old hardware then to sell them or throw them out and they are still better then stock cooling solutions in my opinion. Thanks again for the education.I will stick with the Alphacool Rads but really looking forward to getting the D5 Next installed just waiting till i get paid then i get the fun of finding one in stock. My local computer shop sells out within hours 




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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/21 06:31:07 (permalink)
Thanks for the link you saved me some time. Those are the way to go.Does reservoir size have a direct effect on cooling?

 
 
                           
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/21 07:15:21 (permalink)
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Thanks for the link you saved me some time. Those are the way to go.Does reservoir size have a direct effect on cooling?

Not really, no it just makes it take longer for the water to reach equilibrium.
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/21 17:32:28 (permalink)
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Thanks for the link you saved me some time. Those are the way to go.Does reservoir size have a direct effect on cooling?



Nope.  Buy the right size for looks.  Just consider the fill port area and a drainage might need some spacing.
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Re: Looking For Advice 2020/05/24 06:07:52 (permalink)
Ok thank you for the info

 
 
                           
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