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2018/03/18 08:01:49 (permalink)
whats up fellas! haven't posted here in a LONG time, but i know when i have tech questions this is the place to come.  OK, so here is the deal, my entire rig was built in February of 2012(sig for details),  its REALLY starting to show its age.  I was wondering if the GTX950 FTW(https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=02G-P4-2958-KR), would be a significant improvement over what i currently have now(GTX560ti 448 classy)? and adding an additional 8 gigs of ram?  I'm looking to breathe a little life into the rig so it'll be enjoyable for another 6-12 months.  I'm hoping this little upgrade will do the trick!  thanks for any advice guys!

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 08:25:40 (permalink)
    What is your budget for this temp card purchase?

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 08:42:50 (permalink)
    Id like to keep the whole upgrade with the ram and the video card sub $300, but i can be flexible if need be.  I would consider the 10 series of cards but NONE of them are available on the EVGA website
    post edited by Kanechil - 2018/03/18 09:05:56

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 09:37:19 (permalink)
    If you only need to keep your rig going for 1 year as you posted above then the GTX 950 will get you better performance than the GTX 560ti.

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 09:38:52 (permalink)
    rjohnson11
    If you only need to keep your rig going for 1 year as you posted above then the GTX 950 will get you better performance than the GTX 560ti.


    Im not sure if i mentioned, im running the 560TI 448 classy (https://www.evga.com/articles/00659/#Intro) in SLI, not sure i that makes a difference Versus the 950...

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 10:11:28 (permalink)
    If you're running SLI then it might not make much difference unless you buy two GTX 950 and go SLI. The GTX 950 should support 2 way SLI.
     
    https://www.geforce.com/h...gtx-950/specifications

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 11:00:57 (permalink)
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    If you're running SLI then it might not make much difference unless you buy two GTX 950 and go SLI. The GTX 950 should support 2 way SLI.
     
    https://www.geforce.com/h...gtx-950/specifications


    i don't really want to do that, id like to go back to a one card system.  Might be wise to wait until summer time? wait for card prices to come back down?(if they do =/)

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 12:29:16 (permalink)
    In stock @ Newegg -- shipped and sold by Newegg - if this interests you I'd jump on it before its out of stock
     
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, 02G-P4-6157-KR
     
    $199.99
     
    Now about the RAM - is virtual RAM (HD) seeing lots of action ?  not sure if you really need more RAM
     
    Maybe a larger SSD instead, 256GB Samsung ?
     
    Though your current blower style GPU does a good job at pushing the heat out of the case
     
    The newer card will make much less heat and use much less power, you may need better case airflow as ACX dumps most of the heat inside the case
     

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 12:35:46 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    In stock @ Newegg -- shipped and sold by Newegg - if this interests you I'd jump on it before its out of stock
     
    EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0, 02G-P4-6157-KR
     
    $199.99
     
    Now about the RAM - is virtual RAM (HD) seeing lots of action ?  not sure if you really need more RAM
     
    Maybe a larger SSD instead, 256GB Samsung ?
     
    Though your current blower style GPU does a good job at pushing the heat out of the case
     
    The newer card will make much less heat and use much less power, you may need better case airflow as ACX dumps most of the heat inside the case
     


    I was going to recommend a video card like that but his ram and video card budget was 300 dollars.

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 12:39:18 (permalink)
    DDR2 or DDR3 RAM should be cheap enough ?
     
    $200 for the GPU will make the biggest difference in that built
     

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 12:53:01 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    DDR2 or DDR3 RAM should be cheap enough ?
     
    $200 for the GPU will make the biggest difference in that built
     


    It depends on the quality and speed of the DDR3 ram he wishes to purchase. DDR3 ram for 16GB can still be over 150 dollars. Cheaper speed ram can be had for less.



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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 13:38:27 (permalink)
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    Cool GTX
    DDR2 or DDR3 RAM should be cheap enough ?
     
    $200 for the GPU will make the biggest difference in that built
     


    It depends on the quality and speed of the DDR3 ram he wishes to purchase. DDR3 ram for 16GB can still be over 150 dollars. Cheaper speed ram can be had for less.




    i apologize for not giving more information, i already have 8 gigs of ram(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QBUL1C/?coliid=I999TLVJND8H1&colid=336DT2AI82CUK&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it)  im buying 8 more of the exact same, $80 from amazon. so yes, my budget for the card can be 200-250. i can be flexible

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 14:26:57 (permalink)
    You might not need to add system RAM and save some bucks there.

    You can set up AIDA64 Extreme (30-day free trial, or pay) to log all memory usage (shown below) and run it in the background while you go about doing what you do on your PC..If you're not using nearly all system RAM, adding more won't help.

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 15:08:58 (permalink)
    bob16314
    You might not need to add system RAM and save some bucks there.

    You can set up AIDA64 Extreme (30-day free trial, or pay) to log all memory usage (shown below) and run it in the background while you go about doing what you do on your PC..If you're not using nearly all system RAM, adding more won't help.

    MSI Afterburner can log and show Min/Max RAM Usage (System), Memory Usage (VRAM) and Pagefile Usage..EVGA Precision will show only Memory Usage (VRAM).
     
     
     
     


    im watching my memory usage in game with windows task manager, and its maxing out 95-100% of the time while in game. 



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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/18 20:21:39 (permalink)
    My advice, keep using current GPU's for now. Once nvidia releases 11 series cards later this year, that is when you look for a good deal on a 10 series card. 
     
     
     


     
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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/19 13:46:31 (permalink)
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    My advice, keep using current GPU's for now. Once nvidia releases 11 series cards later this year, that is when you look for a good deal on a 10 series card. 
     
     
     


    That's most likely what ill end up doing, by that time i may just go ahead and do a complete rebuild.  I'll probably still get the extra 8 gigs of RAM, and hopefully I'll see a SLIGHT performance boost

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/31 11:35:28 (permalink)
     
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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/31 11:43:12 (permalink)
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    Moved to General Hardware.


    Wrong forum Xray. The OP's first post is about the EVGA GTX 950 so it belongs in the EVGA 900 series forum

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/31 11:47:53 (permalink)
    If your budget allows it this b-stock item which is a GTX 1050ti SSC seems to be a good deal and better performance than a GTX 950: https://www.evga.com/prod...aspx?pn=04G-P4-6255-RX

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    Re: Little Help! 2018/03/31 16:51:53 (permalink)
    that old rig  / platform mixing memory may not serve you  or may not work out so well even if the same brand and  all    they can change the ic's uses at any giving time  .  thats the risk you would take   . if you look in your windows task manager  you may see  98% of the time you may not even use over 3 gb of memory   .  I only got 2  test programs that use up to all my 16 gb I run now  and I have to select it to do so   [one is called Y cruncher ]  
     
    if me I would hold off on your system memory  and save that money toward the new build ...    that  gtx  1050 may be ok  but then best check if your motherboards BIOS is compatible with theses newer cards  .  some find that is a no go   this was popping up a lot with the release of the 900 series   and older build  like z68  's ran in to this issue   and some brands gave a updated motherboard bios  some did not ..  [lots were evga cards as well but funny  swapped for a same MSI card  and worked ??]  maybe see some of that from here
    https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/788289/geforce-900-series/computer-won-t-boot-past-bios-after-installing-new-gtx-970/2/
     
    maybe the latest cards sold today got that adjusted  and are now fully plug and play ??   best to look befiore you leap  with latest parts on older build now a days 
     
    good luck 
     
     
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    Re: Little Help! 2018/04/05 13:58:31 (permalink)
    I agree with rjohnson11, with going with b-stock 1050ti ssc till at least later this year or early next year and I agree that 8GB of more ram would be good. I've always tried to run 16gb of ram in all my systems. Good luck!
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