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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/20 13:39:02
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When I get back from my consulting job in 3 weeks, that is what I will be doing.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/20 13:50:31
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I haven't done it yet because the heatsink on the 1080 is something I haven't seen yet, where potentially the screws are on the otherside of the motherboard.....very, very, strange. I don't know how the heat sink creates enough pressure this way. Different than just removing a motherboard that has the heatsink on the other side. Well let's see. My experience with LM is at least 10-15C improvement.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/20 14:18:11
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CPU = Yes
GPU = No
Done It Been Their.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/20 14:18:57
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HaloTechnology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdTsra-uLBI
I mean I wanna do it is repasting void the warranty ?
Almost 20 degree improvement ! right now my laptop cant run a game with OCed CPU the laptop will overheat !
A Laptop, Never. But A as Long as you are willing to *Risk Your Device *The last words in the Video  What was Missing from this Video was the Caution of using LM with Aluminum, that is you Can't.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/20 14:21:28
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vistarshook
I haven't done it yet because the heatsink on the 1080 is something I haven't seen yet, where potentially the screws are on the otherside of the motherboard.....very, very, strange. I don't know how the heat sink creates enough pressure this way. Different than just removing a motherboard that has the heatsink on the other side. Well let's see. My experience with LM is at least 10-15C improvement.
You and I should meet someday :D , I just ordered it Still not sure if i am going to do it . I just hate to know that my fan when gaming is almost 90% power there is no headroom for overclocking or even nvidia own GPU boost bcavnaugh
CPU = Yes
GPU = No
Done It Been Their.
so tell us how much is it better ?
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/20 14:30:39
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It is Post on my Thread. But a Drop of 20C sounds about right.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/21 19:06:45
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  " /> For everyone wondering what the stock situation looks like.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/21 19:26:38
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good job saadtariq30 , looks like you uploaded bunch of pictures, but we only can see one, and can you take a picture of cooling fans, what brand is it. Why I'm asking, because i sent my sc17 for repair broken fan, one of the cooling fan start making tractor engine noise.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/21 20:07:16
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 " />  " />  " /> For some reason it's only letting me upload a single picture at a time. Also I didnt take a picture of the cooling fan and now I've closed it up. I just repasted using some MX4 that I had laying around. I may end up switching over to liquid metal in a few days. I'll take a snap of the fans then. Edit: Ok it worked.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/21 20:21:57
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make some, test how well new paste works.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/21 20:24:17
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Show us a photo of your MX-4 Spread!
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/21 20:33:05
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Results: 4c drop on idle on both the cpu and gpu. Under full synthetic load on both with fan boost: Cpu dropped ~10c cooler while the gpu is ~8. I did not have time for proper testing, I essentially just stressed both the cpu/gpu to 100% and let it run for 10 minutes.
As for the MX-4 spread, I'll take pictures of when I pull it apart again (if I decide to/get the time). Application method: Tiny line on both the cpu/gpu, I did not spread it.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/22 03:27:44
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saadtariq30, thanks for the pics. Did you remove the whole motherboard? From the pics it seems like it.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/22 05:05:53
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I dellided my 8700k. Was alot easier than I thought. Used grizzly octonaght liquid metal. I only got maybe 5 degrees from it. Your mileage will vary depending on how well yours was done at the factory. I've had a 4700k net 20 degrees though. My CPU now sits around 85 in stress tests 50 to 60 gaming
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/22 05:54:52
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I hope someone does this and document every step or make a video, for other SC17 users. It doesn't seem much difficult though, as long as you use very little liquid metal & use 33+ insulation tape/polish combo.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 12:31:40
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Ok guys. Liquid Metal (Conductunaut) applied. Very difficult mother the 1080 model, never seen the heatsink screws on the other side of the motherboard and heatsink, very strange. I think they did it on purpose to make more difficult. Difficult to balance perfectly to then turn the whole thing over to screw the heatsink down. 5min prime95 small FFT at 4.4GHz all cores. I am getting higher core differential than before, but I don't care for now, since it runs in the 70's instead of the 90's. Also some temp spikes on core 0 during Aida64 stress test. I will redo it eventually and try to get a better fit when flipping the motherboad to screw the heatsink. 
post edited by vistarshook - 2018/02/25 13:01:58
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 12:41:21
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Firestrike Ultra loop (graphics 2) GPU at 67, before 74....so in line with expectation, since pascal GPU doesn't cool as much with LM as the CPU. 
post edited by vistarshook - 2018/02/25 13:00:16
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 13:06:09
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Pics of the SC17 1080 model.  Prep work....used kapton tape on CPU because the die is not very high and the 33+ eletrical tape was too thick, which might not give proper contact between the die and heatsink. Kapton is thinner so opted for that. Used 33+ for the GPU which has a higher die.  Fan model 
post edited by vistarshook - 2018/02/25 17:16:44
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 14:14:23
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Cinebench @4.5GHz 
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 15:45:59
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Vitas, the screws you remove to repaste, were only the one numbered on the 1080 model? And did you remove from 14-0, and to reapply the heat sink the other way round? Seems similar pattern with the 1070 model ( mobo apart).
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 15:50:25
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Vitas, the screws you remove to repaste, were only the one numbered on the 1080 model? And did you remove from 14-0, and to reapply the heat sink the other way round? Seems similar pattern with the 1070 model ( mobo apart).
The 1070 model the screws are on top, while on the 1080 there are on the other side of the motherboard. 8 screws on mine (1-8), not sure what your question is though?
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 16:01:46
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Cosch, are you referring to the heatsink screws with the springs? This what it looks like on mine. 1-8.  I tightened them 1-2, then 5-6, then 3-4, then 7-8. Tiny turns in that sequence until all them were tight, took several times in that order. This to have a good balanced pressure across the GPU and CPU.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 16:55:17
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Ok guys. Liquid Metal (Conductunaut) applied. Very difficult mother the 1080 model, never seen the heatsink screws on the other side of the motherboard and heatsink, very strange. I think they did it on purpose to make more difficult. Difficult to balance perfectly to then turn the whole thing over to screw the heatsink down.
5min prime95 small FFT at 4.4GHz all cores.
I am getting higher core differential than before, but I don't care for now, since it runs in the 70's instead of the 90's. Also some temp spikes on core 0 during Aida64 stress test. I will redo it eventually and try to get a better fit when flipping the motherboad to screw the heatsink.
Very interesting thank you so much for sharing but I searched online alot and I want your opinion seems like liquid metal actually bonds with pure copper (not nickel plated as our laptop) heatsinks ? have you had any experience with that before ? our laptops are rare and I don't want to screw something up and not able to replace the heatsink later .... Bare in mind the bond with copper is not like aluminium its much lesser and some people say its okay ...so I dont know :/ I really want to do it but I am scared :(
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 17:14:37
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The risk is with aluminum, it will "melt" it in days. LM does bind with copper but doesn't degrade it, it just stains the copper, but does not affect the integrity or performance over time.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 18:07:20
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Torture test (CPU+GPU) Stock Paste Aida64(cpu+cache+gpu) @4.1GHz  Conductonaut Aida64(cpu+cache+gpu) @4.1GHz 
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 18:58:46
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Cosch7290
Vitas, the screws you remove to repaste, were only the one numbered on the 1080 model? And did you remove from 14-0, and to reapply the heat sink the other way round? Seems similar pattern with the 1070 model ( mobo apart).
The 1070 model the screws are on top, while on the 1080 there are on the other side of the motherboard. 8 screws on mine (1-8), not sure what your question is though?
Yeah I just wanted to know, the way you put the heatsink again. If in a crossed pattern ( like you did), or just tighten the screws a little bit one by one. Because I'm experiencing weird CPU temp, and might be a pressure problem on two of the cores.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 20:06:20
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Wonder why the heatsink on the 1080 model is screwed from the other side of the board like a graphic card lol. The 1070 model is so much easier to work with.
From what I've been reading online the liquid metal will discolor the copper and the die wont be as shiny as before but there is no drop in temps/cooling capacity of the heatsink.
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/25 23:30:48
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The risk is with aluminum, it will "melt" it in days. LM does bind with copper but doesn't degrade it, it just stains the copper, but does not affect the integrity or performance over time.
I am still scared but man those temps make me wanna do it NOW I mean this will make the laptop almost silent during gaming and much improve performance !
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Re: Liquid Metal !!!! what do you think guys ? Linus did it !
2018/02/26 07:09:09
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You guys are hardcore for attempting this! I'm not ready to open mine up and don't really feel the need to.
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