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2020/02/22 23:59:25 (permalink)
Some reviews write about this but I want to warn people if can to buy Levis 501 in store or from retailer who allow return/replace.
Lucky for me my retailer where I buy every jeans fro 16 years and biggest in our region is great and saved me from buying two pairs of size bigger jeans.
What's happen... some Levis 501 models, not all of them, we measuered in stores at least 10-12 models and only 3 size W38 have specification even inside jeans 96cm, that's 38"=95cm but true dimensions of jeans are 101cm... That's 2" bigger and 100% belong to size W40. That mean you will be able to put both hands on hips and jeans will be able to go over. OK belt can deal with that but jeans not look like Levis 501.
 
I will show you...
W38 size...
 
Labels... can't be more original than these, all of these numbers mean when Levis build model and other informations only they knew.
 
  
Size of pants... 51cm 51x2= arround 101/102cm=40" not 38"


 
Now look W36 I replaced... specification say 92cm... that's small to me if we read specification and size of pants.
But not in dimensions....

48cmx2=96cm=38"=W38
 
This is way to mistake for everyone who buy online. No matter how much read size charts, measure self and confirm his number with Levis he will order W38, got jeans marked as W38 but dimensions W36.... That's not one error, mistake, we found 3-4 models on that way.
One manufactured in Poland, other manufactured in Pakistan, completely different fabric.
Levis ask me these numbers inside labels to trace how that mistakes happen and to stop that in future. But they will not stop I know that.
But we know how much cost Levis now, they are not expensive much...
If someone don't want such mistakes and want to be patriot could visit stores of Tom Ford with 1 class jeans build from world best Japanese cotton and manufactured in USA. Now Tom Ford sell quality as people used on jeans during 90th and 80th. Only pair is 700-800$. 
But for me Levis is great quality, only should be avoid buying online. I never met this from period when I weared W30 in 16 years, always numbers was as in inch and difference was max half inch. Now this difference is two size if we look brands who sell all numbers and 37 and 39 and 33 length, difference between them is inch or 2.5cm... But 80% of brands not do that and make jeans with size difference 2" that's 5cm. 
Some retailers have measures for every single models of jeans, and then you can't make mistake...
 
Some rear retailers who have time to do that have size chart for every model of pants of every brand you look online, and then you will see this with some models... to warn customers that size and specifications not match with true size of pants.
 

 
Lucky for me, retailer is excellent in my country.
On some places you could stay with 2" bigger pants.
 
I slept so nice and happy after I replaced my Levis 501's... history of brand and products mean a lot to me.
Off course they are affordable and for my class. I can't afford Tom Ford because I would wear jeans Made in America from best world materials.
They look... simple like someone spent 5 times more hours for every jeans then Diesel, Replay, Levis, etc... every hole is carefull stitched, like someone remove slightest imprefections, and I believe they work much more with hands and on every step of production they have carefull control to final product become great. You immediately recognize that they are not build in Asia, instantly, I only saw 2 pairs of Tom Ford, I never had them.  
For Americans I advice them to look for them, because in my country Levis 501 cost same percent of monthly payment as Tom Ford to Americans.
 
 
 
 
 
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/23 15:28:38 (permalink)
     
    Had that happen. Bought several pairs of pants from same retailer online, same size, style everything. The legs on one were more than 2 inches longer than the others, another was like super tapered below the knees, yet size and style tags all the same ... it was like 3 completely different pants. Probably counterfeit now I think about it...
     

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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 00:34:46 (permalink)
    Welcome to American corporate retail crap, And what’s allowed these days!

     
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 01:34:54 (permalink)
    The quality has dropped somewhat for Levi's. I find Wrangler and Lee jeans a bit more above Levi's in quality.

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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 03:32:39 (permalink)
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    The quality has dropped somewhat for Levi's. I find Wrangler and Lee jeans a bit more above Levi's in quality.




    Replay believe me is best quality. Everything I boutght before 15-20 years is still intact, off course lost color, but no holes, no tears, neck same size.
    But depend of models. Levi's 501 are universal jeans...unique, fashion not influence on them and fit to every person different.
     
    I only want to know what you search in Levi's, Lee, Wranger when Tom Ford rule in America and their jeans looks like humans worked 10 times longer for every pair. OK me, because Levi's for me is like Tom Ford for you. 1/4 of monthly profit. 
     
    You need to be carefull and avoid counterfeits for all costs. In our country is easier because we have one main player who keep everything.
    They had more then 50 stores in few countries on Balkan. Example same company keep Levi's, Replay, Diesel, and 20-30 others brands. They have store where they sell them together and special store for only one brand. And if you want to return jeans or something you can see online is it available other number and where, and to go in their different store and replace for other smaller or bigger.
    I never buy branded clothes without declaration of quality control agency who give certifikate for everything.
    This is evidence that jeans are tested one of every model and that quality is in specifications by Levi's... I would buy nothing without that...
    If someone have evidence that counterfeit product have such label he could get few thousands euro from journalists, that would become huge affair because famous, celebrities, actors everyone in our country mostly buy from these sellers. Online is completely different, I would bought only from authorized sellers. Off course I look always for discounts, because only 20% of things I waited and I wanted to buy is sold before discount.
    At the end I paid 2 pair of jeans almost like single pair.
     

     
     
     
     
     

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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 03:37:41 (permalink)
    I can't wear Replay any more, at least models I see in my country, it's to slim or skinny depend of model.
    Chosing pants for me was What is most relaxed you have... and than they start to give me 2-3 models I don't like at all.
    Every nice jeans I take retailer say That's slim as well, that's slim, ...at the end I go out, no jeans for me.
    On that way I decide to back to Levi's 501.
    Exuce me, you can't expect quality for 50 euro or 100 euro. Because if they offer every year such discounts that mean pair of jeans cost them 10-20$ to make. What you expect from 10-20$, Levi's price from 50 years is now at least 400$ if you include dollar behavior and economy.
    If you want that go look for Tom Ford for 500$ on discounts and you will get Levis quality from before 30-40 years, even more, carefully selected cotton, much more time work on every pair of jeans, etc... 
    Asia deformed your view of how much something should cost. You are shocked with real price of real quality because you are used on brands who move production in Asia to satisfy demands and profit more. 
    Real price for pair of jeans is 500$. That's just 1/4 or 1/5 of monthly payment, you don't buy them every month. You buy 1 or 2 every year, some year you don't need to buy at all. 
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 03:54:59 (permalink)
    Control certificate need to have number of every jeans models, country of origin of few countries depend if they produce on few places.
    Name of brand, name of company who imported them.
    Need to contain information what contain, cotton, wool, polyester, etc... How behave after washing, how to care about them.
    You see their measure them, every imported model is measured and have size... 
    That mean they are imported with papers from authorized distributer, tasted and everything else.
    But it's easy to recognize fake if you know some brand, at least for me... I can't recognize fake of some brands I never weared before.
    Example Replay, I could recognize their style among any other brands...
    Special because Replay cloth in our country smell on something so nice... That smell I remember at least 20 years.
    And it's so addicted and pleasant and whole house smell on sweatshirt when you bring home... She lost that after washing.
    I looked documentary about clothes and hear some brands or retailers use parfeum to attract customers and they are not even aware that back to their store because they liked parfeum inside. We are not even aware how that influence on us maybe to buy that brand again instead some other similar.
    And no one want to say what is that... something during production, new Replay jeans or sweatshirt, t-shirt will contain that smell months if need until someone wash. Then no more smell at all. And if no such things and someone sell that's first trace that she is not original. 
    Once I didn't bought nothing from Replay long time, and when I felt old smell I was so happy and back me emotions and situations from several years before. On that way I remember every purchase, where I bought every single part of Replay garment.  
     
     
     
     
     
     

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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 04:15:13 (permalink)
    I only want to this topic be informative, I don't want to advice no one to avoid Levi's.
    I wear Levi's and I will continue to wear Levi's. This is only to people take care.
    I had luck that I could back even washed but not weared pants, someone will have 2 bigger pair of jeans in my situations.
    Mostly I fear that jeans will be sold or replace with collection 2020... Because these two pair of jeans I like most and I didn't saw so nice color pattern and color I need at the moment in whole city. I scare about that. But everything finished happy, happy end and I will continue to buy Levis only try every pair of jeans in store, size bigger then mine, size smaller then mine and mine size before purchase. Nothing else.
    I like history of Levis, I respect history of Levis. Only that stay to us now when Asia manufacture everything. From someone they are maybe savior.
    But bad for people who live in area where monthly profit is 2500-4000$ and they should consider investing in brands who still produce in America, to research and find what they like most.
    Maybe one day Levis back to USA part of production, maybe even now they produce. Dr Martens backed to UK and produce one collection on place everything start. Because Gardian write that new Boots manufactured after 2000 in Asia are not same quality and price of used boots old 20-30 years in excellent condition reached price of 5 pair of new manufactured in Asia.
     
     
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 04:49:49 (permalink)
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    I only want to this topic be informative, I don't want to advice no one to avoid Levi's.
    I wear Levi's and I will continue to wear Levi's. This is only to people take care.
    I had luck that I could back even washed but not weared pants, someone will have 2 bigger pair of jeans in my situations.
    Mostly I fear that jeans will be sold or replace with collection 2020... Because these two pair of jeans I like most and I didn't saw so nice color pattern and color I need at the moment in whole city. I scare about that. But everything finished happy, happy end and I will continue to buy Levis only try every pair of jeans in store, size bigger then mine, size smaller then mine and mine size before purchase. Nothing else.
    I like history of Levis, I respect history of Levis. Only that stay to us now when Asia manufacture everything. From someone they are maybe savior.
    But bad for people who live in area where monthly profit is 2500-4000$ and they should consider investing in brands who still produce in America, to research and find what they like most.
    Maybe one day Levis back to USA part of production, maybe even now they produce. Dr Martens backed to UK and produce one collection on place everything start. Because Gardian write that new Boots manufactured after 2000 in Asia are not same quality and price of used boots old 20-30 years in excellent condition reached price of 5 pair of new manufactured in Asia.
     
     
     


    If I want a pair of Jeans today I wait until I travel to Glasgow and pickup a pair of no name Jeans at the store T.J. Hughes for about 8 pounds or less. I was there a few weeks ago and you could buy two pairs of no name jeans for 15 UK Pounds. They are good quality and have no issues. They usually have Wrangler and Lee jeans also at very good prices as well.  

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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 05:09:32 (permalink)
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    I only want to this topic be informative, I don't want to advice no one to avoid Levi's.
    I wear Levi's and I will continue to wear Levi's. This is only to people take care.
    I had luck that I could back even washed but not weared pants, someone will have 2 bigger pair of jeans in my situations.
    Mostly I fear that jeans will be sold or replace with collection 2020... Because these two pair of jeans I like most and I didn't saw so nice color pattern and color I need at the moment in whole city. I scare about that. But everything finished happy, happy end and I will continue to buy Levis only try every pair of jeans in store, size bigger then mine, size smaller then mine and mine size before purchase. Nothing else.
    I like history of Levis, I respect history of Levis. Only that stay to us now when Asia manufacture everything. From someone they are maybe savior.
    But bad for people who live in area where monthly profit is 2500-4000$ and they should consider investing in brands who still produce in America, to research and find what they like most.
    Maybe one day Levis back to USA part of production, maybe even now they produce. Dr Martens backed to UK and produce one collection on place everything start. Because Gardian write that new Boots manufactured after 2000 in Asia are not same quality and price of used boots old 20-30 years in excellent condition reached price of 5 pair of new manufactured in Asia.
     
     
     


    If I want a pair of Jeans today I wait until I travel to Glasgow and pickup a pair of no name Jeans at the store T.J. Hughes for about 8 pounds or less. I was there a few weeks ago and you could buy two pairs of no name jeans for 15 UK Pounds. They are good quality and have no issues. They usually have Wrangler and Lee jeans also at very good prices as well.  


    Thanks a lot but I have good price here, I paid mine 60 euro pair.
    I think it's worth of money.
     
    I don't need a lot of pants, one more for winter and one more for summer.
    For winter I saw in my country but I will wait to drop price because it's collection 2020.
    Levis 501  model 00501-0165... That's 501 Original Fit like mine, but Heavyweight, they are 100% cotton, but thicker, heavier and after few washing become even better, completely black, look like pants, not jeans. But they are jeans.
    This model... in my country is 90 euro. But before summer I expect to drop on 70 euro.
     
    https://www.jeans24h.eu/men-jeans-501-levis-original-fit-jeans-black-005010165-p-1716.html
     
     
     
    They are really cool. Black jeans/pants are always welcomed for any situation, but these could be wear even on 0C or snow because they are thicker.
    And for summer I will look for biege Chino or similar. I like these leather patches.
    If they remove that as PETA ask I will not buy Levi's any more. 
    Next step of PETA is dictate your meal.
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 07:45:14 (permalink)
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 08:07:04 (permalink)
     quality control issues or possibly counterfeit

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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 08:08:12 (permalink)
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    Now is over, I replaced, these new smaller size fit perfectly even have space for 1 finger for every size to lose or get 5kg and to look perfect.
    To compensate 1.5 size bigger pants where every size is 2" difference, How? That's 20kg and jeans on belly. I had space to put both hands on hips and pull jeans up to the ankle, belt fix that easy, but look of pants in legs and hip is ruined. That's not 38-39, total 1" in waist, that's 2". You need to eat months with intention to get 15-20kg just to these pants be normal, but you will get belly, not hips. 
     
    I first separate on side to replace for same length as I had L34. But girl in store ask Please try L32.
    I have phobia of short pants. They say only try... I tried and they say you are crazy if take L34, L32 is your size and 2-3cm even more then fashion propose, but you have nice full break as you like and so big luck that you don't need to taper jeans and that's not always case, 50% of people need to taper them, because difference is 6cm=2" and in length. When I arrive home I call them to thanks them because they force me to try L32. 
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 08:44:27 (permalink)
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     quality control issues or possibly counterfeit




    It's not quality control issue it's whole series manufactured like that, every number from 28 to 42 or I don't know how big they made for two models.
    One manufactured in Poland Levis factory and other in Pakistan Levis factory.
    It's not counterfeit. Compare and you will see, with all countries, Germany, UK, England these models are available and perfectly same...
    Counterfeits not deal with barcodes and similar things...
    When I check bar code....
    This how Levis manufacture last years jeans... Immediately when you see patch on back you see is it original.
    Buttons, sewing process...
    Levis request all pictures from jeans and labels and they would say they are fake, instead of that they offered to replace.
    Both of mine jeans have all of these perfectly same. 
     
     

     
    Counterfeits are never ready same season with models they counterfeit.
    They clone some most famous models and put older labels to look like 4-5-6 years supply and that's excuse why they no all new details.
    Brands such details change often. Fake usually have details from some ex models or similar things.
    But real bar codes, number of models atc no.
    Quality control and certifikate label of Serbian Ministry of Trade on counterfeit would be huge affairs because people spent thousands dollars on that place. That's not America and you have 20 big companies with own chains of retailers. Here is 1-2 for 2-3 countries. Few ultra rich and powerfull bussiness mans hold them 20 years and whole population together with singers, actors, politicians buy there.
     
    I asked Fashion Company about most famous Australian Boots. Now is hysteria in the world about UGG boots from sheep skin and wool inside.
    And I liked some sleepers and ask them when they plan to import... They answer me, that sleepers you asked are from American UGG (Decker Outdoor Corporation) and most models you see on Internet advertised as UGG are from China, not real UGG Australia, that's American UGG build in China and we don't seel that, real UGG Australia have much less models and it's better quality. we only have Made in Australia UGG Australia.
     
    That's something most popular for girls and it's really hard to find proper comparison what was so popular in past...
     
    UGG Made in China owned by American corporation...
     

    Real UGG Australia, they become popular first...
     

     
     
    These boots are not joking, that's real sheep skin and real wool inside. Cost up to 300$ for some models.
    There is a several and sizes, etc... and for man off course. And company who care so much about import last what need is counterfeit Levis 501 worth 50-60 euro to destroy them reputations. For 20 years no one complain on that retailers for counterfeits. And they worked from period when you could litterary sell weapons in fashion stores when we didn't regulate nothing. 
     
    And last they need is to sell counterfeits because they are distributors and authorized sellers for at least 30 most famous brands on the world and all of their models you could find on Levis Europe site and price is very similar, discounts very often in same time, etc... No way that they were counterfeit.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 14:13:02 (permalink)
    Sad part is, you can’t hardly find America made or higher quality fabric in the U.S. or I’d just sew mine and the wife’s own clothing, at least our Pants! Harder to find 1/2 sizes in short Inseams...

     
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 14:15:18 (permalink)
    I haven't had a pair of 501 since college.   not saying anything wrong with them, just commenting.  

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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 14:24:00 (permalink)
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    Sad part is, you can’t hardly find America made or higher quality fabric in the U.S. or I’d just sew mine and the wife’s own clothing, at least our Pants! Harder to find 1/2 sizes in short Inseams...



    How there is a few we in Europe know for them, Todd Shelton about 300$ I think.., Wrangler I think made some small number and most famous who belong in higher range of luxury cloth Tom Ford... Tom Ford's cashmire jacket cost 5000$. Man's boots from crocodile skin hand made in Italia, 15.000$. 
    Jeans are 700-800-900, but available on discounts for 500$. Immediately on pictures you recognize that they are probably very good. 
     
    These are from Japanese selvedge cotton made in America, 720$. 
    You immediately see that they not belong to Levi's, Wrangler, Lee Cooper class. You see how every hole for button is carefully stitched, no need to cut fabrics and string with scissors, etc...
     

     


     
     
    This is 1st class jeans on the world, can't be better then that. 
    Tom Ford holes for buttons after years of use look better then 100-200$ jeans on day of purchase.
     

     
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 14:30:46 (permalink)
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    Time to devour a box of twinkies.  I'm sure that will fill in the gap for ya fren. 

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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 14:39:50 (permalink)
    Tom Ford Jeans are not only made in America, cotton for them is carefully selected and only best parts, sometimes even organic, depend of model.
    And models carefully follow last fashion trends in the world.
     
    I don't know for you but with American monthly payment and I would not even look other sites when we talk about jeans, not other stuff.
    Not shoes, sweatshirts, jackets, etc... just jeans.  
    But all famous and rich people have few pair of Levi's 501 in closet.
    That's working class brand, we should not demand from Levi's same as much more expensive garments.
     
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 20:54:34 (permalink)
     
    I go to the store to get mine, and make sure they fit.        :)

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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/24 21:03:21 (permalink)
     
    Btw, the pants I mentioned earlier were Under Armor work pants, not Levi jeans. Levis I prefer 505 Regulars (straights).
     
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/25 01:39:55 (permalink)
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    I go to the store to get mine, and make sure they fit.        :)




    Always, never buy pants online. Always buy in store who allow to back and spend 1-2h in them without removing tags when you back home if you miss something in store. 
    In America is much easier, there is a several brands and small companies who produce jeans in America, not famous but quality is probably good because prices are usually arround 250$ per pair. 
     
    Off course with American monthly payment I would wear top quality garment.
    Not Gucci and similar but very close to them, because discounts are available and because monthly payment is 6 times bigger then in mine country I would bought 6 times more expensive jeans then in mine country. For extremely quality clothes you need 10.000$ even if you have nothing. Within period of 6 months spending 10.000$ on carefull selected garment on discounts your closet could look completely different.
    3 pair of jeans - Tom Ford 2000$
    Winter jacket - Canada Goose - 1000$
    Spring jacket - Stone Island 500$
    Rain coat - Something with 3layer Gore-Tex 500$
    Sweatshirts and fleece x6 Stone Island, CP Company 2000
    T-shirts for first layer x6 shirts with long sleeve for winter x3 and underwear x9  Calvin Klein 500$
    sneakers and boots socks x9 1000$
    belt, wallet, bag - 500$
     
    you are still not on 10.000 and that's extremely quality clothes, more expensive then that is more for paying brands then quality.
    And then you only add what you need every 3 months... Nothing below 500$. Or you could remove from list all brands who produce in Asia like Stone Island and CP Company and Calvin Klein and use some similar price who produce in America/Canada/Italy/France.
    You need enough to wear every piece in period of 2-3 months. If something stay in closet and you don't have time to wear that, that mean you have too much, and it's much better concentrate on quality then quantity. 
    You need enough clothes in black and dark color for washing machine, enough white shirts and similar stuff for washing separate, socks and boxers for washing machine and that's it. People usually have too much cloth and they not wear something even months or years and for that money they could buy so nice garment to make you happy when it's time to wear next pieace of clothes. I always from 13-14 bought branded garments and wash them alone, I didn't allow to nobody to wash them to turn on washing machine, etc... 
     
     
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/25 01:53:31 (permalink)
    Did you saw Kitanica jeans and jackets. If not you should...
    American brand. I think they are produced in America. Insane clothes who like military style.
    It's not too price as you expected. They have pants and jeans...
    Quality is far above Levis... Tactical pants, and jackets...
    Only they are more for people who live in smaller towns, adventures, etc...
     
     


     

     

     
     If someone is preppers and don't plan to have Kitanica garments full equipement he is not prepared properly. 
     

    Simply insane stuff for type of people who like that. Not for everyday, but if you go in nature, hunt, excellent for practice with Matthews bow or hunting or any type of work in nature. Jeans are arround 100$, pants up to 250$, fleece arround 200$, jackets up to 650$.
     
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    Re: Levis 501 Not True to Size 2020/02/27 00:05:43 (permalink)
    Levis 501 W38 I replaced for W36 were not only full dimension of W40.
    They had more holders for belt then jeans up to size W38.
     
    W40 and higher have 2 more belt holders... I was first surprise with that, because I never had any jeans with so much belt holders.
    W28-W38 have 5 belt holders, bigger pants have 7 of them.
     


     
    Real W38 have only 5 of them, only pants size W40 and W38 oversized 40-42" have 7 holders for belt.
    Mine W36 size 38" have only 5 as I used on every jeans before. Maybe that could give you information about models if they show picture on site.
    Only 40" in waist jeans will have 7 holders for belt and wider.
     
     
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