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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/09 17:55:34
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AHowes Glad to see your Temps are that low under a normal custom water loop, no one else's is even close. Maybe Fold some WU to see what your GPU can really do. I do not think you have really put a load on your card yet.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/09 18:01:09
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AHowes Glad to see your Temps are that low under a normal custom water loop, no one else's is even close.
Maybe Fold some WU to see what your GPU can really do. I do not think you have really put a load on your card yet.
I'll worry about 1-4 hour temps later.. right now i'm comparing the new pads before and after using the same small test. ANyways, i'm only running 5 rads on her.. she better be cold but not cold enough as I wanted.. I want 32C max.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/09 18:12:43
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AHowes Glad to see your Temps are that low under a normal custom water loop, no one else's is even close.
Maybe Fold some WU to see what your GPU can really do. I do not think you have really put a load on your card yet.
I'll worry about 1-4 hour temps later.. right now i'm comparing the new pads before and after using the same small test.
ANyways, i'm only running 5 rads on her.. she better be cold but not cold enough as I wanted.. I want 32C max.
It only takes 45 minutes @ 2100 MHz not 1 to 4 hours. Run Beta and run some Core 22 WU and Burn that card in. Bet if you heat up that card and allow it to run HOT for an hour or so it would seat better with the new Pads. Get it up to 55-60°C
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/09 19:34:14
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Room Temperatures 18.88°C - 20°C for a better compare of the KPE Temperatures. Your indoor ambient air temp is 18.88-20C? Wow. There must be no women there. ;) I keep the thermostat set to 70 F, so a little over 21 C and they're all in hoodies and under blankts...in July...in the widwest USA. I've tried different thermal paste, from the stuff that came with the card, to Thermal Grizzly kryonaut, to liquid metal. All have been unimpressive. I have some Thermalright TFX on the way, but I want to come up with another solution than using the Hydro Copper block. Maybe a universal GPU block combined with the stock AIO bracket. I don't know. But, for the amount of money this has cost it has been extremely disappointing.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 05:45:33
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Memory doesn't need any heatsinks on, it's fine with a fan.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 07:13:10
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Interesting. I may just reinstall the stock VRM heatsinks and fan and go with a universal GPU block then.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 11:48:53
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Room Temperatures 18.88°C - 20°C for a better compare of the KPE Temperatures.
Your indoor ambient air temp is 18.88-20C? Wow. There must be no women there. ;) I keep the thermostat set to 70 F, so a little over 21 C and they're all in hoodies and under blankts...in July...in the widwest USA.
I've tried different thermal paste, from the stuff that came with the card, to Thermal Grizzly kryonaut, to liquid metal. All have been unimpressive. I have some Thermalright TFX on the way, but I want to come up with another solution than using the Hydro Copper block.
Maybe a universal GPU block combined with the stock AIO bracket. I don't know. But, for the amount of money this has cost it has been extremely disappointing.
AHowes Not mine. "Before temps.. room temp 66-68F" I converted them because you really cannot compare °C and °F Numbers.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 11:58:50
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Memory doesn't need any heatsinks on, it's fine with a fan.
Cooling the GPU Memory Without a Heat Sink on them and only using a fan makes zero sense.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 12:20:36
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I've heard that before though. The upper end of the operating temp for DDR6 is so high (95c) that it doesn't require active cooling, just slight airflow to keep from building up too much heat.
That being said, a set of 16 copper finned 14mm x 12mm x 5.5mm heatsinks is $16 on Amazon...
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 13:09:56
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I've heard that before though. The upper end of the operating temp for DDR6 is so high (95c) that it doesn't require active cooling, just slight airflow to keep from building up too much heat.
That being said, a set of 16 copper finned 14mm x 12mm x 5.5mm heatsinks is $16 on Amazon...
He did say No Heat Sink. But keep us Posted.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 13:10:44
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Welp.. removed the block and right before I loosened the 4 screws to the GPU bracket and was able to tell the bracket was not being pinched from the block. Then removed the block and seen nothing wrong. Hard to tell how much pressure was on the memory chips as the pad was originally installed on the block.. but after removing them from the block, I could only see a slight memory chip imprint. So not making great contact. No deep squish. Everything else had a decent imprint. So I could of just added the original pads back on the card and left the other expensive pads on there.. but why? The temps were higher all around by atleast 5-10c. So installed the original pads. Also when removing some of the pads.. it seemed like they were dried up and brittle? Flaked apart when removing and stiff. Also left a gray chalky film on the block and parts.. ****? Not even 24 hour use! Haha Cheap quality stuff! RIP off! Dont by those fujiploy 17wk pads! Evga's pads after weeks of use and stored over night in saran wrap.. still nice and moist!
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 13:18:07
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 13:21:34
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Welp.. removed the block and right before I loosened the 4 screws to the GPU bracket and was able to tell the bracket was not being pinched from the block.
Then removed the block and seen nothing wrong. Hard to tell how much pressure was on the memory chips as the pad was originally installed on the block.. but after removing them from the block, I could only see a slight memory chip imprint. So not making great contact. No deep squish.
Everything else had a decent imprint.
So I could of just added the original pads back on the card and left the other expensive pads on there.. but why? The temps were higher all around by atleast 5-10c. So installed the original pads.
Also when removing some of the pads.. it seemed like they were dried up and brittle? Flaked apart when removing and stiff. Also left a gray chalky film on the block and parts.. ****? Not even 24 hour use! Haha
Cheap quality stuff! RIP off!
Dont by those fujiploy 17wk pads!
Evga's pads after weeks of use and stored over night in saran wrap.. still nice and moist!
Isn't it crazy how people get different results, my temps went down 5-6c. Have not opened mine back up though to see about the dry and brittle though. Would probably make sense though since they don't have near the squishy effect like other pads do
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 13:39:47
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Memory doesn't need any heatsinks on, it's fine with a fan.
Cooling the GPU Memory Without a Heat Sink on them and only using a fan make zero since.
Making zero since? I don't think you understand little chap so I'll explain it for you.... The memory is absolutely fine with just a fine breeze of a fan on them, using heatsinks with sticky pads just causes annoyance.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 13:42:57
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Memory doesn't need any heatsinks on, it's fine with a fan.
Cooling the GPU Memory Without a Heat Sink on them and only using a fan makes zero sense.
Making zero since? I don't think you understand little chap so I'll explain it for you....
The memory is absolutely fine with just a fine breeze of a fan on them, using heatsinks with sticky pads just causes annoyance.
It still makes zero sense not to Cool the Memory on a Graphics Card. It is your hardware and you can cool it how you want to no one is going to stop you. I guess then that all the Graphics Card manufactures can stop cooling the Graphics Memory and save us all tons of money in cost savings. Also I never said anything about using heat sinks with sticky pads. Have a Day.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 14:45:38
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Memory doesn't need any heatsinks on, it's fine with a fan.
Cooling the GPU Memory Without a Heat Sink on them and only using a fan makes zero since.
Making zero since? I don't think you understand little chap so I'll explain it for you....
The memory is absolutely fine with just a fine breeze of a fan on them, using heatsinks with sticky pads just causes annoyance.
It still makes zero since not to Cool the Memory on a Graphics Card.
It is your hardware and you can cool it how you want to no one is going to stop you.
I guess then that all the Graphics Card manufactures can stop cooling the Graphics Memory and save us all tons of money in cost savings.
Also I never said anything about using heat sinks with sticky pads.
Have a Day.
Sense*. 'Have a Day' ? My day is almost over, it's 22:46.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 14:48:16
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Memory doesn't need any heatsinks on, it's fine with a fan.
Cooling the GPU Memory Without a Heat Sink on them and only using a fan makes zero sense.
Making zero since? I don't think you understand little chap so I'll explain it for you....
The memory is absolutely fine with just a fine breeze of a fan on them, using heatsinks with sticky pads just causes annoyance.
It still makes zero sense not to Cool the Memory on a Graphics Card.
It is your hardware and you can cool it how you want to no one is going to stop you.
I guess then that all the Graphics Card manufactures can stop cooling the Graphics Memory and save us all tons of money in cost savings.
Also I never said anything about using heat sinks with sticky pads.
Have a Day.
Sense*.
'Have a Day' ?
My day is almost over, it's 22:46.
Another Grammar and Spelling Teacher who does not know how to use a PM Now you get to correct all your Posts with sense, since you have correct me. Have a Nice Day, is this better or should I just say goodnight and sweet dreams.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 15:03:39
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Well.. first boot up after installing the original pads and all is back to freaking normal! All the temps are exact and I didnt expect that as the pads stretch out as you pull them off.
Guess the pads evga are using are great!
Guess I'll be happy with what I have and get going on playing some games and vr finally.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 15:05:10
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Well.. first boot up after installing the original pads and all is back to freaking normal! All the temps are exact and I didnt expect that as the pads stretch out as you pull them off.
Guess the pads evga are using are great!
Guess I'll be happy with what I have and get going on playing some games and vr finally.
What was the cost for this for you? I guess I will return mine.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 15:26:01
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AHowes
Well.. first boot up after installing the original pads and all is back to freaking normal! All the temps are exact and I didnt expect that as the pads stretch out as you pull them off.
Guess the pads evga are using are great!
Guess I'll be happy with what I have and get going on playing some games and vr finally.
What was the cost for this for you?
I guess I will return mine.
$83! 28x3 packs. :/ win some, loose some.. I'm surely dew to get ahead eventually.. may e the next build I'll have better luck.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 15:32:23
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Well.. first boot up after installing the original pads and all is back to freaking normal! All the temps are exact and I didnt expect that as the pads stretch out as you pull them off.
Guess the pads evga are using are great!
Guess I'll be happy with what I have and get going on playing some games and vr finally.
What was the cost for this for you?
I guess I will return mine.
$83! 28x3 packs. :/ win some, loose some.. I'm surely dew to get ahead eventually.. may e the next build I'll have better luck.
Thanks I still have 2 weeks to return mine, still waiting for the Z390 Dark to come into stock so I have a little time. $19.49 (3) here and for the 1.5mm $14.49 (4) but that was for the 11.0 W/mK Pads.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 15:47:13
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Well.. first boot up after installing the original pads and all is back to freaking normal! All the temps are exact and I didnt expect that as the pads stretch out as you pull them off.
Guess the pads evga are using are great!
Guess I'll be happy with what I have and get going on playing some games and vr finally.
What was the cost for this for you?
I guess I will return mine.
$83! 28x3 packs. :/ win some, loose some.. I'm surely dew to get ahead eventually.. may e the next build I'll have better luck.
Thanks
I still have 2 weeks to return mine, still waiting for the Z390 Dark to come into stock so I have a little time.
$19.49 (3) here and for the 1.5mm $14.49 (4) but that was for the 11.0 W/mK Pads.
I bought the bigger packs 50x60 x 1.5mm and same in the 1mm size. 2 of the 1mm and 1 1.5m.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 15:55:50
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AHowes
Well.. first boot up after installing the original pads and all is back to freaking normal! All the temps are exact and I didnt expect that as the pads stretch out as you pull them off.
Guess the pads evga are using are great!
Guess I'll be happy with what I have and get going on playing some games and vr finally.
What was the cost for this for you?
I guess I will return mine.
$83! 28x3 packs. :/ win some, loose some.. I'm surely dew to get ahead eventually.. may e the next build I'll have better luck.
Thanks
I still have 2 weeks to return mine, still waiting for the Z390 Dark to come into stock so I have a little time.
$19.49 (3) here and for the 1.5mm $14.49 (4) but that was for the 11.0 W/mK Pads.
I bought the bigger packs 50x60 x 1.5mm and same in the 1mm size. 2 of the 1mm and 1 1.5m.
So not the Strip ones, I wonder if that made or makes a difference? All mine are the Strip Pads 
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 17:01:48
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@ FROSTYBE3R
If you're running a 2080 Ti...or any card really, without memory heatsinks or the like, what kind of temps do you see?
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
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If you're running a 2080 Ti...or any card really, without memory heatsinks or the like, what kind of temps do you see?
 Rofl....Higher than the current ones that currently use such things.  ***At the same time, he's partially right because you only need airflow on less designed/demand PCBs. These current 2080 Ti PCBs like to run hot!
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
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If you're running a 2080 Ti...or any card really, without memory heatsinks or the like, what kind of temps do you see?
Rofl....Higher than the current ones that currently use such things.
***At the same time, he's partially right because you only need airflow on less designed/demand PCBs. These current 2080 Ti PCBs like to run hot!
What did this post add to the thread? If you can't answer the question, please don't respond.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/10 22:57:16
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@ FROSTYBE3R
If you're running a 2080 Ti...or any card really, without memory heatsinks or the like, what kind of temps do you see?
Rofl....Higher than the current ones that currently use such things.
***At the same time, he's partially right because you only need airflow on less designed/demand PCBs. These current 2080 Ti PCBs like to run hot!
What did this post add to the thread? If you can't answer the question, please don't respond.
That's like saying don't ask silly questions (your post) but I was in agreement with you because I thought you were asking sarcastically since any person with common sense and the know how about 2080 TI's would have answered the same but I guess you seem to have caught your panties in bunch there. Carry on...
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/11 07:18:28
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Again...What did this post add to the thread? If you can't answer the question, please don't respond. This is a fairly common problem with this forum as a whole though; too many trash posts which don't advance the topic. I actually wanted an answer from the guy who made the comment about not using heatsinks, since I haven't read any posting of actual memory temps when they're run w/o heatsinks.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/11 10:33:42
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bp7178
Again...What did this post add to the thread? If you can't answer the question, please don't respond. This is a fairly common problem with this forum as a whole though; too many trash posts which don't advance the topic.
I actually wanted an answer from the guy who made the comment about not using heatsinks, since I haven't read any posting of actual memory temps when they're run w/o heatsinks.
Sorry there was a misunderstanding on my end since you were asking a serious question. I thought you were joking so I apologize but your condescending responses don't help the cause either. It's actually hypocritical. Since I now refuse to assist you in your future endeavors, I will remove myself from any of your posts from now and on. You take care.
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Re: Kingpin Hydro copper temps.
2019/07/12 19:42:54
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So I replaced my HC waterblock with a EK-VGA Supremacy block. I then reinstalled the stock copper heatsinks for the VRM and inductors. I didn't use the copper plate which cover the GDDR6 chips, as the height is wrong; the EK block wouldn't make contact with the die. There is nothing covering the memory. The card is mounted vertically in a open-air Barrowch Mobula case/frame/thing. To test, I ran Time Spy Extreme Stress test, both with the HC block and with the EK block. Default clocks were used. The watercooling setup is 2 EKWB PE 240 rads with 4 Corsair ML120 fans set to a fixed 60%. Pump is a EKWB D5 and is set to 100%. Temps were logged with GPU-Z. The highest observed temps (always near the end of the runs): HC water block GPU 42c (2025Mhz) MEM1 49c EK water block GPU 38c (2040Mhz) MEM1 66c As expected memory temps were higher, but still way under the max operating temp (95c) for GDDR6. An easy 4c improvement for max GPU temps, I''ll work on finding out an average and edit this post. The score was higher for the EK run too, getting a 98.6% compared to 97.9%
post edited by bp7178 - 2019/07/12 22:24:56
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