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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/22 09:58:23 (permalink)
Maybe I have already lost it but in a different way hahaha. Oh well, time to hope I get this to work or then I will actually lose it
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/22 12:35:17 (permalink)
You guys are overreacting.  Only reason to check the mount is if on both GPU and WB base have no TIM whatsoever.  When you keep taking the block off you will always see patterns like that and constantly redoing it won't change a thing.
 
Your temps look fine OP.  You probably clock higher than me out of the box and I'm usually around 45c-46c.  If you want lower temps, possibly change the WB to EK which is not possible and add more rad/air and liquid flow or reconfigure?  Idk what your setups like but I'm sure you could tweak a few things but other than that, you're good.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/22 13:22:55 (permalink)
There is no overreacting, the mount was simply pretty bad for some reason. GPU DIE temp of 65C when GPU1 and GPU2 are 44C and 46C is alarming to say the least. I know that cause last time I let my GPU Die temp go to 80C I got weird glitching and screen flickering followed by 1/3rd of the die barely having any TIM/none. I am quite content with my GPU temp cause I will be getting 2 more 360 or 480 rads, depends on which case I get in the near future.... the gpu DIE temp was alarming as I just said, thats the whole problem. Right now with few hours of gaming and usage with a new mount the GPU DIE temp is no more than 5C above GPU1 and like 3C above GPU2. Which is good, anything up to 10C is acceptable.
 
I wish someone else made the WB (full cover ofc) for kingpin but sadly thats not happening.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/22 13:43:03 (permalink)
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There is no overreacting, the mount was simply pretty bad for some reason. GPU DIE temp of 65C when GPU1 and GPU2 are 44C and 46C is alarming to say the least. I know that cause last time I let my GPU Die temp go to 80C I got weird glitching and screen flickering followed by 1/3rd of the die barely having any TIM/none. I am quite content with my GPU temp cause I will be getting 2 more 360 or 480 rads, depends on which case I get in the near future.... the gpu DIE temp was alarming as I just said, thats the whole problem. Right now with few hours of gaming and usage with a new mount the GPU DIE temp is no more than 5C above GPU1 and like 3C above GPU2. Which is good, anything up to 10C is acceptable.
 
I wish someone else made the WB (full cover ofc) for kingpin but sadly thats not happening.




Completely understandable and I feel you have fixed the issue but I was referring to after the fact which I feel all is fine.  I agree that it would have been nice if you had another option for a WB to at least test.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/22 14:01:54 (permalink)
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So, I took it apart just now and this is how it looks like: https://i.imgur.com/WXIb1Zq.jpg , https://i.imgur.com/QWJBqdz.jpg 

It yet again migrated down (vertical mount), so as per suggestion I did what I usually do which is an X (tends to work better for me than blob, used to do it before spreading). Screwed it down as much as it let me etc. Time to test and see how that ends up.
 
GPU temp is 44C, GPU2 temp is 46C and OLED extra Gpu die temp is 47C . Been running a game for past 30min and temps are this high. 21.5C room temp. 100% usage. Best temps I had so far especially at this room temp (similar to AIO on GPU but everything else is a lot better).


I just looked at this picture closer, are you using the stock thermal pads the hydro copper came with? There is not near enough of a memory imprint on the 3 memory pads that there should be if everything is tightened down good.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/22 14:04:05 (permalink)
Yes indeed I have noticed that too (like an 2 hours ago when looking back at the photos), so far my temps are not changing so I am not going to disassemble it yet... but if they do then theres something defo wrong lol, that pad had barely any imprints now that I think about it which is weird.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/22 16:27:49 (permalink)
Whats the max temp you see under full load, wattage wise, with 800 and 1000 rpm ?
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/22 17:55:23 (permalink)
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Whats the max temp you see under full load, wattage wise, with 800 and 1000 rpm ?


He's using a hydro copper.. not the stock cooler.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/23 07:08:20 (permalink)
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Yes indeed I have noticed that too (like an 2 hours ago when looking back at the photos), so far my temps are not changing so I am not going to disassemble it yet... but if they do then theres something defo wrong lol, that pad had barely any imprints now that I think about it which is weird.


Theirs a guy in another thread stating he needed to sand down the standoffs on his hydro copper block 0.5mm to get good contact pressure or else the card would hit 80c.

https://forums.evga.com/m...82930&fp=1&p=4

That would be a pain to remove all those standoffs to sand them down.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/23 08:31:26 (permalink)
Oh wow, I wanna do a custom loop but I am not going that far and potentially fluffing up and since I cant buy another block... yeah. That said, this is ridiculous that he has similar problem...

Oh and, temps are back to going up. Lasted a lot longer with the X. LOL, this is just stupid
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/23 08:36:37 (permalink)
Yeah don't sound too good.. but it could just be 1 standoff is taller then the others preventing the die from good contact. If it is the problem.

Have to measure the length of ea standoff to see. Unscrew any taller ones and sand them down.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/23 10:41:26 (permalink)
Yeah I will be dissasembling it in the next few hours so will thoroughly inspect it and see what the hell the problem is.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/23 13:29:05 (permalink)
I sure hope you figure it out as I'm sure knowing what's up will surely be a huge relief.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/23 14:10:38 (permalink)
Yeah that's the first I've seen of the standoffs being an issue, find that hard to believe but never know I guess
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/23 17:42:46 (permalink)
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Whats the max temp you see under full load, wattage wise, with 800 and 1000 rpm ?


He's using a hydro copper.. not the stock cooler.


ya he said a 360 rad with nf a12 fans. was wondering what temps are at those rpms.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 08:23:28 (permalink)
Cant test it yet since the spread/contact is not good. Anyway... disassembled it and oh boi... the 3 mem modules are barely making contact with the pad again, so I tried without bracket + a lot of pressure without paste to see and it was better contact but still not that good. Standoffs seem to be same if my measuring is right so its either part of the die or WB again... gonna give it one more try and then go insane if it doesn't work

Changing the pads seems to have little effect.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 08:33:16 (permalink)
3 mem modules? Which ones? Is there pads that are being smashed big time on the block? As an indicator that maybe the block was milled too high in one spot preventing the rest of the card from making good contact?

It's like maybe time to add a thin drop of goop to ea pad and see what pads are touching and what's not maybe.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 08:37:40 (permalink)
Maybe even remove all pads carefully and add a thin coating of tim on the block area where the pads were and apply the block fully.. then remove it and check if their is tim residue on any components. Then you'll know where the high spot is and what's wrong with the block.

Maybe just use tim on that area so the rest of the block can make a more solid contact.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 08:41:55 (permalink)
Not really big time, most have good contact but that one where 3 mem modules are on the kingpin (y know 3 memory modules near the pcie) had little contact with the pad. Thats whats weird. I'll try more tomorrow cause i was expecting my TIM delivery on saturday but due to some reason it will be delivered on monday.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 08:47:11 (permalink)
Prob the same as every block in that one area.. it's the area on the same side with the bios switch right? On the top edge Opposite of the pcie connector right?

It dont get much pressure their cause their is no screws to clamp the block down like in the other areas.

Edit: actually it would be the bottom part where the pcie connector is. No screws on the opposite side of the mem for better clamping pressure.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 08:56:26 (permalink)
Maybe the WB is slightly warped?  I think its time to RMA the block since its shown signs of being out of spec.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 09:15:52 (permalink)
I just got this block tho lol, I can't be this unlucky right? 4th block already and 2nd one that has these contact problems....

And yes, its basically near the PCIE connector where there was barely any contact with memory... not the first time it happened which is very weird and makes me think its actually my card and not the block.


heres pics after I took it apart: https://i.imgur.com/ymZO3O1.jpg , https://i.imgur.com/r8gXxBP.jpg
Clearly not making enough contact + there was almost 0 indetation on the pad that has those 3 mem modules, the rest had ok contact after I dry mounted it with more pressure.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 09:31:51 (permalink)
This thread makes me like my ekwb vga supremacy mod more and more each day.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 09:34:52 (permalink)
These problems are making me regret wanting a custom loop when I only have one option for a GPU WB.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 09:36:28 (permalink)
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This thread makes me like my ekwb vga supremacy mod more and more each day.


:) I hear ya.

Anyways.. maybe try different thermal paste. Grab a tube of GC extreme. https://www.amazon.com/dp...p_dt_b_product_details

If your goop is running maybe this stuff wont as it's what I've been using for years and ive had a vertical mount GPU for the past.. forever, actually. haha. Ever since the first vertical mount.

I've used this goop the past 3/4 builds now.
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 09:39:19 (permalink)
I usually use noctua paste when I need to check mounts since its cheap(here), good-ish and easy to get a hold of, usually slightly better temps than mx-4 and its thick. Which I used to see the contact area last time but I ran out of it (had only a little bit left)
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 09:43:55 (permalink)
Man there needs to be some kind of material you can lay over the card and you then apply the block.. clamp it down and then remove the block to see all the areas on the card that are making contact. Just to see if it's something else that's hitting. Maybe 1 chip is somehow mounted wrong causing it to be higher and preventing the block from seating correctly.

I'm sure there is.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 09:55:20 (permalink)
Pump speed? Are you controlling the pump? Is it running max? I keep mine at 100%. I dont even plug it into the mb as that will make sure it's running max.. that's for the ek d5 pump.

Just thinking maybe that's why the aio cooler could run better temps.

Also cooling would be better with the fan in push then pull. If just 1 sided fans.

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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 10:11:52 (permalink)
Pump speed? always on max for now for optimal testing, push/pull does not make a difference when temps start going full stupid (tried it), when GPU DIE temp on oled (the extra 3rd gpu temp option) starts going above 5C difference between it and GPU1... well it means the paste is migrating or thats what I found out these past few weeks. 
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Re: KINGPIN Waterblock temps 2019/11/24 10:35:03 (permalink)
I hope I remember to check what my die temps say next time I get a chance to boot mine.

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