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How do you turn on the dip switches? Do you need a special tool? They are so tiny, no sure if you slide them up or down to turn on..
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/02/17 01:25:40
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A pointy plastic poker tool (like you get in a phone teardown kit) works well.
Honestly, if you don't know how to move the switch, or which direction to move the switch, you probably shouldn't be moving the switches.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/02/17 01:34:40
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Ok cheers. Will try something like that or a tooth pick. I assume it just slides . Have managed to get 15213 now in port royal, keen to see if I can get a bit more out of it.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/02/17 10:25:28
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Try to find something plastic & not metal or wood to do it with.
All of them are set one way, move them the other way (can't remember which right now) - keep in mind any changes in the Classified Tool or Afterburner's VF curve on voltages overrides the Dip Switches (which is why I saw zero changes from them the first time lol)
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/06/30 13:10:00
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Try to find something plastic & not metal or wood to do it with.
All of them are set one way, move them the other way (can't remember which right now) - keep in mind any changes in the Classified Tool or Afterburner's VF curve on voltages overrides the Dip Switches (which is why I saw zero changes from them the first time lol)
Where did you find documentation on what these dip switch's do? I know they change the voltages for NVVDD, FBVDD, and MSVDD, but it is not clear by how much, and there are 2 switches for each voltage, so I am not sure what each switch does. I keep looking but so far have not come across the details. Any pointers would be awesome!
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/06/30 13:36:57
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Dabadger84
Try to find something plastic & not metal or wood to do it with.
All of them are set one way, move them the other way (can't remember which right now) - keep in mind any changes in the Classified Tool or Afterburner's VF curve on voltages overrides the Dip Switches (which is why I saw zero changes from them the first time lol)
Where did you find documentation on what these dip switch's do? I know they change the voltages for NVVDD, FBVDD, and MSVDD, but it is not clear by how much, and there are 2 switches for each voltage, so I am not sure what each switch does. I keep looking but so far have not come across the details. Any pointers would be awesome!
Watch this video... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KV6OB5wxtNw
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/06/30 14:16:27
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Dabadger84
Try to find something plastic & not metal or wood to do it with.
All of them are set one way, move them the other way (can't remember which right now) - keep in mind any changes in the Classified Tool or Afterburner's VF curve on voltages overrides the Dip Switches (which is why I saw zero changes from them the first time lol)
Where did you find documentation on what these dip switch's do? I know they change the voltages for NVVDD, FBVDD, and MSVDD, but it is not clear by how much, and there are 2 switches for each voltage, so I am not sure what each switch does. I keep looking but so far have not come across the details. Any pointers would be awesome!
Watch this video... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KV6OB5wxtNw
Thank you. Exactly what I needed. Appreciate the link.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/06/30 14:23:35
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 04:13:36
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No problem.
So will I void my warranty when I use the switches? I have no other chance to hit the Power Limits on my King Pin other than switching the Dips. Otherwise I only get around 440 to 470 Watts in Timespy Extreme, Around 440 -460 in Port Royal and the Card shows PerfCap Pwr already at 440 Watts, With activating both MSVVD Switches and one NVVDD Switch I can reach the 520 Watts but I am not sure if thats safe to use 24/7
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 06:41:01
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Dabadger84
Try to find something plastic & not metal or wood to do it with.
All of them are set one way, move them the other way (can't remember which right now) - keep in mind any changes in the Classified Tool or Afterburner's VF curve on voltages overrides the Dip Switches (which is why I saw zero changes from them the first time lol)
Where did you find documentation on what these dip switch's do? I know they change the voltages for NVVDD, FBVDD, and MSVDD, but it is not clear by how much, and there are 2 switches for each voltage, so I am not sure what each switch does. I keep looking but so far have not come across the details. Any pointers would be awesome!
Watch this video...
Awesome, thanks for the link :)
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 10:26:06
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No problem.
So will I void my warranty when I use the switches? I have no other chance to hit the Power Limits on my King Pin other than switching the Dips. Otherwise I only get around 440 to 470 Watts in Timespy Extreme, Around 440 -460 in Port Royal and the Card shows PerfCap Pwr already at 440 Watts, With activating both MSVVD Switches and one NVVDD Switch I can reach the 520 Watts but I am not sure if thats safe to use 24/7
Voiding warranty for using features that the card comes with? Doubt it.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 10:27:04
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Try to find something plastic & not metal or wood to do it with.
All of them are set one way, move them the other way (can't remember which right now) - keep in mind any changes in the Classified Tool or Afterburner's VF curve on voltages overrides the Dip Switches (which is why I saw zero changes from them the first time lol)
Where did you find documentation on what these dip switch's do? I know they change the voltages for NVVDD, FBVDD, and MSVDD, but it is not clear by how much, and there are 2 switches for each voltage, so I am not sure what each switch does. I keep looking but so far have not come across the details. Any pointers would be awesome!
Watch this video...
Awesome, thanks for the link :)
No problem.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 10:27:09
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No problem.
So will I void my warranty when I use the switches? I have no other chance to hit the Power Limits on my King Pin other than switching the Dips. Otherwise I only get around 440 to 470 Watts in Timespy Extreme, Around 440 -460 in Port Royal and the Card shows PerfCap Pwr already at 440 Watts, With activating both MSVVD Switches and one NVVDD Switch I can reach the 520 Watts but I am not sure if thats safe to use 24/7
Voiding warranty for using features that the card comes with? Doubt it.
ok so its safe 24/7?
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:25:08
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No problem.
So will I void my warranty when I use the switches? I have no other chance to hit the Power Limits on my King Pin other than switching the Dips. Otherwise I only get around 440 to 470 Watts in Timespy Extreme, Around 440 -460 in Port Royal and the Card shows PerfCap Pwr already at 440 Watts, With activating both MSVVD Switches and one NVVDD Switch I can reach the 520 Watts but I am not sure if thats safe to use 24/7
Voiding warranty for using features that the card comes with? Doubt it.
ok so its safe 24/7?
The card (pcb) itself can definitely handle it, but running higher voltages will most likely kill the die (actual gpu chip) itself faster due to increased voltage and wattage. The founders edition 3090 uses up to 1.081mv at stock settings. The 3090 founders edition also uses up to 350w at stock with a max of 400w when the power limit is set to max. So it’s safe? Yes, and no. The 3090 is designed to work within a certain range of voltage and wattage safely. The FE card defines those limits. A KP card uses the same die chip as any other 3090, and those die chip design limits haven’t been changed by EVGA, only the PCB has been redesigned to push the die chip harder. If you choose to purchase a KP card, and run above the design limits then you should know the risks involved. Yes, it’s safe, and even approved by nvidia (nvidia approves/denies all pcb and vbios changes), but you’re killing your card faster. No, it isn’t safe as your surpassing the design limits.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:33:26
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No problem.
So will I void my warranty when I use the switches? I have no other chance to hit the Power Limits on my King Pin other than switching the Dips. Otherwise I only get around 440 to 470 Watts in Timespy Extreme, Around 440 -460 in Port Royal and the Card shows PerfCap Pwr already at 440 Watts, With activating both MSVVD Switches and one NVVDD Switch I can reach the 520 Watts but I am not sure if thats safe to use 24/7
Voiding warranty for using features that the card comes with? Doubt it.
ok so its safe 24/7?
The card (pcb) itself can definitely handle it, but running higher voltages will most likely kill the die (actual gpu chip) itself faster due to increased voltage and wattage. The founders edition 3090 uses up to 1.081mv at stock settings. The 3090 founders edition also uses up to 350w at stock with a max of 400w when the power limit is set to max. So it’s safe? Yes, and no. The 3090 is designed to work within a certain range of voltage and wattage safely. The FE card defines those limits. A KP card uses the same die chip as any other 3090, and those die chip design limits haven’t been changed by EVGA, only the PCB has been redesigned to push the die chip harder. If you choose to purchase a KP card, and run above the design limits then you should know the risks involved. Yes, it’s safe, and even approved by nvidia (nvidia approves/denies all pcb and vbios changes), but you’re killing your card faster. No, it isn’t safe as your surpassing the design limits.
Thanks a lot for the detailed answer. I understand what you are saying, but why does evga release a card with a 520 Watt Limit when its not even closely able to hit the limit without messing around with the switches. I mean for example with a 3090 Strix Oc, when you Push the Powerslider to 480 Watts the card will easily hit the 480 watts in games and Benchmarks as well. But not with the Kingpin. Here it doesnt go further than 420 -460 Watts and hitting powerlimit already at 440w even with Powerslider to full 121% (520 Watts) when the dipswitches are not enabled or messying around with classified tools
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:44:55
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Simple... silicon lottery. Some chips are more efficient than others. Sounds like yours is really efficient.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:47:53
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Simple... silicon lottery. Some chips are more efficient than others. Sounds like yours is really efficient.
this is my second king pin as my first one had the same issue and couldnt go past 440 -460 Watts. If the card would be efficent it would not show already show perfacreason powerlimit when i hit 440 watts already. Also I have a very bad chip that can only do +105 on Core and + 1150 on mem stable
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:49:54
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In that case there is clearly vbios safeguards causing the issue then.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:51:13
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In that case there is clearly vbios safeguards causing the issue then.
and would should i do in this case?
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:52:25
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Flash the 1000w vbios to kill the safeguards. 😁
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:53:53
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Flash the 1000w vbios to kill the safeguards. 😁
or in other words flash the 1000 watts bios to kill the card 🤣🤣🤣
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:57:41
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People buy KP cards to overclock. Surpassing design limits kills cards.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 11:59:17
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People buy KP cards to overclock. Surpassing design limits kills cards.
So you mean KingPins are designed to kill them? 😁
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 12:00:12
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 12:01:54
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Pretty much. 😂
Hahaha okay 🤣🤣 So what would you really recommend me to do? Running the Card without switches and accepting the low Power Draw or can you recommend a good dipswitch setting?
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 12:07:25
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If you want to run 500w 24/7 then you’ll need to just tweak the card using the classified tool. I never used the dip switches myself. I always ran the 1000w vbios too. Didn’t want any perf caps that would throttle it.
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 12:08:52
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If you want to run 500w 24/7 then you’ll need to just tweak the card using the classified tool. I never used the dip switches myself. I always ran the 1000w vbios too. Didn’t want any perf caps that would throttle it.
are you jusing the 1000w Bios + Classified tool or just the 1000w Bios?
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 12:10:27
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 12:22:04
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Both.
with what settings for 24/7? Maybe i will try aswell
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Re: KINGPIN 3090 Dip Switches
2021/07/13 13:28:26
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For gaming I just run the card at stock clocks with max fans on the 1000w vbios unless I’m trying to run a games built in benchmark.
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