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2020/01/08 22:19:29 (permalink)
Not that impressed with the card. Also own msi rtx 2080 ti lightning z. The msi card overclocks higer and i get better bench mark scores 3dmark. I can +100 core and +1000 memory on the kingpin. On the msi card i can go +150 core and +1300 memory. I was thinking the kingpin would overclock +200 core and +1500 memory. Can someone please help with this rgb lighting issue with the kingpin.
 
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/08 22:21:34 (permalink)
It can most likely do better with the correct tweaking... https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/
 
What was +100 for you on the kingpin?
 
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/08 23:17:27 (permalink)
It will
I can get 200 on the core .
Just have to flash XOC and use the classy tool .
Easy
I have a very similar set up to you as well.
If you check my power supply thread , you'll see my puppy was sucking over 660watts out of the wall .
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/09 12:29:07 (permalink)
Flashing your card with a different bios that is not approved for your card is not a good idea.


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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/09 12:36:45 (permalink)
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Not that impressed with the card. Also own msi rtx 2080 ti lightning z. The msi card overclocks higer and i get better bench mark scores 3dmark. I can +100 core and +1000 memory on the kingpin. On the msi card i can go +150 core and +1300 memory. I was thinking the kingpin would overclock +200 core and +1500 memory. Can someone please help with this rgb lighting issue with the kingpin.
 
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It is  a Very Common Misconception that something like:  "+100 core and +1000 memory" Means anything about Performance
 
You Need to state the MHz improvement ---> While running the Same Load (benchmark)
 
So, list the Stock +0 MHz & Temps for GPU & RAM ---> Then list the MHz & Temps with your +xxx changes
 
There is Not a direct Correlation Between the MHz & the + Values in & of itself
 
Besides Temps play an Important role in Max MHz
 
Run 3 separate PCIe power cables to the Kingpin for Max performance ... use a Benchmark that can put a Heavy load on the card

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/10 01:16:29 (permalink)
Superposition and then put your score up.
See then how it's performing with comparison to other cards .

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/10 15:57:29 (permalink)
To many people think the kingpin is just gonna blow other cards away in performance, well they will, but the kingpin is really just another 2080 ti in disguise. When using normal or OC bios they are just pretty much the same as others when it comes down to it. But when you use the ln2 bios or xoc bios for benchmarks which in all reasoning for the price is what they are meant for, in combination with the classy tool and custom loop you can push them over 800 watts and more. So if your not going to push the card to it's limits and see what it will do and what it's really capable of you shouldn't complain when you're just using the stock AIO cooler, which in it's own right is a very good cooler.

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/10 15:59:19 (permalink)
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Not that impressed with the card. Also own msi rtx 2080 ti lightning z. The msi card overclocks higer and i get better bench mark scores 3dmark. I can +100 core and +1000 memory on the kingpin. On the msi card i can go +150 core and +1300 memory. I was thinking the kingpin would overclock +200 core and +1500 memory. Can someone please help with this rgb lighting issue with the kingpin.
 
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The kingpin doesn't have rgb lighting.

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/10 18:22:36 (permalink)


The kingpin doesn't have rgb lighting.

Maybe mixing up the OLED with an LED light show .
Just pulling your leg OP .

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/10 18:33:36 (permalink)
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Flashing your card with a different bios that is not approved for your card is not a good idea.


Very bad idea and don't do it

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/12 03:05:39 (permalink)
Have another question. When i turn on my computer the card diplay reads f3 and r1.1 then the core and memory frequjencies read 0 untill presicion x1 start then the card read the frequencies. If precision x1 is not load the card does not read the memory or core frequencies. Is this correct?
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/12 03:26:58 (permalink)
Not sure about that
On ice today , ran the core @210 and voltages not too high .
Your card will do it , just have to do a bit of research.
Ps my rad fans don't start until I kick precision in the guts .

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/12 03:57:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Cool GTX 2020/01/12 11:40:01
Yes px1 must be open in order to monitor frequency. And yes what your seeing during boot up is normal.

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/12 06:11:39 (permalink)
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Not that impressed with the card. Also own msi rtx 2080 ti lightning z. The msi card overclocks higer and i get better bench mark scores 3dmark. I can +100 core and +1000 memory on the kingpin. On the msi card i can go +150 core and +1300 memory. I was thinking the kingpin would overclock +200 core and +1500 memory. Can someone please help with this rgb lighting issue with the kingpin.
 
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Few thoughts...
- As others have suggested +100 does not really mean anything due to the way GPU Boost works. +100 on your Lightning Z may only be a core clock of 1900MHz where on the Kingpin its a core clock of 2200MHz... 
- The biggest advantage that the Kingpin card has aside from being binned is the virtually unlimited power limit and the ability to adjust voltages, however you are not able to tap into any of those settings unless you flash the BIOS with the XOC version. 
- Remember temperature is the enemy and the Kingpin card is not immune to this issue. That is why the Kingpin card was designed out of the box for LN2 and other sub ambient cooling solutions. Using ambient cooling I would expect the Kingpin to clock slightly higher than other cards on the market, but its certainly not going to be a huge performance gain.

Note:
- EVGA provides the XOC BIOS for the Kingpin card, but keep in mind that it will void your warranty. 
- Out of the box without the XOC BIOS I believe that the Kingpin has a higher power limit than say the FTW3, but I am not 100% sure on this. 

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/12 10:50:14 (permalink)
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I believe that the Kingpin has a higher power limit than say the FTW3, but I am not 100% sure on this. 




I believe it does.

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/12 19:21:23 (permalink)
The fact people say you shouldn't expect a kingpin to overclock better then other cards off water with its aio is stupid my ftw3 hit 65C max fan my KPE hits 42 max. You cant buy a direct bolt on waterblock for the kingpin unless you modify it slightly unless they fixed the area under mini dp so a custom loop is out of the question.. unless you do a mod to make a block work for it yada yada and then thats what the kingpin was for they will say.....
 
The kingpin does have a higher tdp if you use the classy tool. Stock TDP is 360 vs 373ish TDP of ftw3 only way the ftw3 hits 370+ is with voltage and power target slider at max which is 124% and the kingpin is 144% power target slider.
 
I agree with them though. My ftw3 stock was 1965mhz boost 150+mhz core was 2115mhz, my kingpin 2070mhz boost 110+ core is 2175mhz. So just because it doesn't hit higher core offset doesnt mean it doesn't overclock higher. 
 
Also my first kpe was sad was 3k+ lower points benchmark and voltage offset would not make it stable I tried a bunch of things and was not willing to do the XOC bios with out being under custom loop or sub ambient. 
 
Play for a bit, my new KPE scores higher and is consistent with what i was expecting and scores 200pts higher with out using classy tool on timespy extreme.
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 00:01:49 (permalink)
Several people are using the Kingpin block from bykski and having great results with them, then you can also use the ekwb Thermosphere and vga supremacy blocks as well with the cold plate shim so to say you can't do a custom loop isnt right. I as well had 1 kingpin that was a worthless overclocker the 2 I'm using now are great and the spare one I have don't know haven't had to find out yet
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 00:11:50 (permalink)
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Several people are using the Kingpin block from bykski and having great results with them, then you can also use the ekwb Thermosphere and vga supremacy blocks as well so to say you can't do a custom loop is wrong.


And they also say they have to modify it. I fixed my original post. And also I said you would have to modify things to make it work... I actually looked at the byski and read you have to sand some of the acrylic to make it fit with the mini display ports. I'd do it, not knowing if the backplate would fit that's the downfall.

I'm telling him I was in the same boat. First KPE wouldnt even touch 360tdp and even tweaking max I could do was 380-410ish benchmarking. New one just max sliders will hit 400+ no classified tool.

So I'm not wrong if you're not willing to make cold plates like in your guide or sand on a block to make it work custom loop is outta the equation.
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 00:20:40 (permalink)
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Several people are using the Kingpin block from bykski and having great results with them, then you can also use the ekwb Thermosphere and vga supremacy blocks as well so to say you can't do a custom loop is wrong.


And they also say they have to modify it. I fixed my original post. And also I said you would have to modify things to make it work... I actually looked at the byski and read you have to sand some of the acrylic to make it fit with the mini display ports. I'd do it, not knowing if the backplate would fit that's the downfall.

I'm telling him I was in the same boat. First KPE wouldnt even touch 360tdp and even tweaking max I could do was 380-410ish benchmarking. New one just max sliders will hit 400+ no classified tool.

So I'm not wrong if you're not willing to make cold plates like in your guide or sand on a block to make it work custom loop is outta the equation.


I have 2 of the bykski blocks at the house when I get home. I'm gonna see what that's all about by the mini display port clearance and also see what it's gonna take to mount the ln2 oled screen to it. I myself like doing mods but it's all about having access to different tools and such.

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 00:37:32 (permalink)
So, I have the bykski block and had to sand down the acrylic by very small amount to fit my mini DP but it fits. I can use the backplate and so can a guy I talked to who had the block long ago but he also had the problem with the acrylic hitting mini dp port so some sanding probably has to be done on most bykski blocks for KP. So yeah, backplate seems to be fine, just the mini DP ports don't have a cut out which kinda sucks and means the block needs modding a bit.
 
 
Also, considering how restrictive EVGA HC KP block seems to be according to people and that in my case at least, and a few others (including a 2070 HC block) where you have to sand the metal standoffs to fit... Sanding the acrylic is far easier lol so a "win" in my book, not to mention its nowhere near as restrictive as the HC block from the looks. Still tho, how can these evga blocks made for these cards not fit without sanding the standoffs by 1-1.5mm in some cases.... thats a bit too much.
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 00:45:29 (permalink)
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So, I have the bykski block and had to sand down the acrylic by very small amount to fit my mini DP but it fits. I can use the backplate and so can a guy I talked to who had the block long ago but he also had the problem with the acrylic hitting mini dp port so some sanding probably has to be done on most bykski blocks for KP. So yeah, backplate seems to be fine, just the mini DP ports don't have a cut out which kinda sucks and means the block needs modding a bit.


Sweet thanks for your post and to OP sorry got off track sorta. I might just have to buy the byski. I'd pm you but although my acc is from 2014 I havent used forums enough to have access to that. with noctua nf-12 3000rpm fans set at 70-100% my gpu hits 39-42° tops and 49-50 memory with blower fan on high.

What temps are you seeing with the bykski block?
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 00:51:19 (permalink)
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So, I have the bykski block and had to sand down the acrylic by very small amount to fit my mini DP but it fits. I can use the backplate and so can a guy I talked to who had the block long ago but he also had the problem with the acrylic hitting mini dp port so some sanding probably has to be done on most bykski blocks for KP. So yeah, backplate seems to be fine, just the mini DP ports don't have a cut out which kinda sucks and means the block needs modding a bit.
 
 
Also, considering how restrictive EVGA HC KP block seems to be according to people and that in my case at least, and a few others (including a 2070 HC block) where you have to sand the metal standoffs to fit... Sanding the acrylic is far easier lol so a "win" in my book, not to mention its nowhere near as restrictive as the HC block from the looks. Still tho, how can these evga blocks made for these cards not fit without sanding the standoffs by 1-1.5mm in some cases.... thats a bit too much.


Did your bykski block come with thermal pads?

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 00:51:54 (permalink)
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I have 2 of the bykski blocks at the house when I get home. I'm gonna see what that's all about by the mini display port clearance and also see what it's gonna take to mount the ln2 oled screen to it. I myself like doing mods but it's all about having access to different tools and such.


I have modified my fair share of stuff and after finding out the GPU backplate fits I'm going to order a bykski block. I dont know if the oled for ln2 will fit i might just have to buy one just so I have it. I think the block would be in the way but a dremel should be able to put a oval to make it clear if needed.
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 00:57:28 (permalink)
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I have 2 of the bykski blocks at the house when I get home. I'm gonna see what that's all about by the mini display port clearance and also see what it's gonna take to mount the ln2 oled screen to it. I myself like doing mods but it's all about having access to different tools and such.


I have modified my fair share of stuff and after finding out the GPU backplate fits I'm going to order a bykski block. I dont know if the oled for ln2 will fit i might just have to buy one just so I have it. I think the block would be in the way but a dremel should be able to put a oval to make it clear if needed.


That's the right attitude there.

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 01:08:06 (permalink)
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That's the right attitude there.


Did your bykski block not come with thermal pads??? And lol most annoying modification was to a 1080ti I had wanted the ekwb to fit and keep the stupid backplate so I had to drill out the holes after pushing the standoffs out.


Finding a replacement backplate after putting it back on air cost me 1/4th of a used 1080ti.....
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 01:12:49 (permalink)
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That's the right attitude there.


Did your bykski block not come with thermal pads??? And lol most annoying modification was to a 1080ti I had wanted the ekwb to fit and keep the stupid backplate so I had to drill out the holes after pushing the standoffs out.


Finding a replacement backplate after putting it back on air cost me 1/4th of a used 1080ti.....


Don't know about the pads that's why I was asking @mcwrah. I haven't been home yet to open mine

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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 01:15:30 (permalink)
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So, I have the bykski block and had to sand down the acrylic by very small amount to fit my mini DP but it fits. I can use the backplate and so can a guy I talked to who had the block long ago but he also had the problem with the acrylic hitting mini dp port so some sanding probably has to be done on most bykski blocks for KP. So yeah, backplate seems to be fine, just the mini DP ports don't have a cut out which kinda sucks and means the block needs modding a bit.
 
 
Also, considering how restrictive EVGA HC KP block seems to be according to people and that in my case at least, and a few others (including a 2070 HC block) where you have to sand the metal standoffs to fit... Sanding the acrylic is far easier lol so a "win" in my book, not to mention its nowhere near as restrictive as the HC block from the looks. Still tho, how can these evga blocks made for these cards not fit without sanding the standoffs by 1-1.5mm in some cases.... thats a bit too much.


Did your bykski block come with thermal pads?

Yep, more than needed actually, even had 1 extra strip of pad left after using all of them, not to mention few bits from the pads I used too since they sent a lot of pads I would say lol.

And to answer temps, well I have not finished my loop yet, but lets just say that I got 44-45C with EK PE 360 and noctua NF-a12s at full blast (330-340W draw on the oled) with EVGA HC that didn't properly fit (22C room temp). Didn't get the chance to try it yet, since everything is disassembled and waiting for a case that will house 1 EK XE 360, corsair xr7 rad and a EK PE rad (o11XL will fit this thankfully). But the guy who has the block got 46C in furmark after 30min. His setup for  the GPU is nf-a12x25s at full speed and a EK SE rad (only 30mm thick or so), and to add to that from reviews the EK SE rad is not the best especially compared to something like PE and rads with similar thickness. 
 
edited to add more info, I would say there might be 2-4C difference between HC block and the bykski looking at this guys temp with furmark vs my gaming load.
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 01:31:12 (permalink)
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Yep, more than needed actually, even had 1 extra strip of pad left after using all of them, not to mention few bits from the pads I used too since they sent a lot of pads I would say lol.

And to answer temps, well I have not finished my loop yet, but lets just say that I got 44-45C with EK PE 360 and noctua NF-a12s at full blast (330-340W draw on the oled) with EVGA HC that didn't properly fit (22C room temp). Didn't get the chance to try it yet, since everything is disassembled and waiting for a case that will house 1 EK XE 360, corsair xr7 rad and a EK PE rad (o11XL will fit this thankfully). But the guy who has the block got 46C in furmark after 30min. His setup for  the GPU is nf-a12x25s at full speed and a EK SE rad (only 30mm thick or so), and to add to that from reviews the EK SE rad is not the best especially compared to something like PE and rads with similar thickness. 
 
edited to add more info, I would say there might be 2-4C difference between HC block and the bykski looking at this guys temp with furmark vs my gaming load.


Do you think the oled would work if you had a ln2 kit? Also 41°C on superposition 5hr stress test 2165mhz/8100mhz so not much to gain other then gpu wont have to power the fan on the board.

Can you post a picture of it? And the phanteks 719 entho fits 2 480s and 2 360s which is what I switched to from a nzxt h700i
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 01:38:10 (permalink)
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Yep, more than needed actually, even had 1 extra strip of pad left after using all of them, not to mention few bits from the pads I used too since they sent a lot of pads I would say lol.

And to answer temps, well I have not finished my loop yet, but lets just say that I got 44-45C with EK PE 360 and noctua NF-a12s at full blast (330-340W draw on the oled) with EVGA HC that didn't properly fit (22C room temp). Didn't get the chance to try it yet, since everything is disassembled and waiting for a case that will house 1 EK XE 360, corsair xr7 rad and a EK PE rad (o11XL will fit this thankfully). But the guy who has the block got 46C in furmark after 30min. His setup for  the GPU is nf-a12x25s at full speed and a EK SE rad (only 30mm thick or so), and to add to that from reviews the EK SE rad is not the best especially compared to something like PE and rads with similar thickness. 
 
edited to add more info, I would say there might be 2-4C difference between HC block and the bykski looking at this guys temp with furmark vs my gaming load.


Do you think the oled would work if you had a ln2 kit? Also 41°C on superposition 5hr stress test 2165mhz/8100mhz so not much to gain other then gpu wont have to power the fan on the board.

Can you post a picture of it? And the phanteks 719 entho fits 2 480s and 2 360s which is what I switched to from a nzxt h700i

Not sure about the kit, would have to reassemble the card with block again and atm using stock cooler since again, still using old case and it doesn't fit enough rad etc. That also aside, I can't even buy the OLED kit in here which really sucks cause I also wanted to use it. In super position I get 42C or 43C or so after 5 hours, then again I am running 1200rpm push/pull cause I can't stand loud fans but I want the best temps so... many rads it is lol.

I also wanted to get that case (phateks 719 ethoo) but I can't get hold of it where I live in eu and it was much easier (+ cheaper) to get the o11d XL so I got that, just need to wait a week or two to get it cause its going to be available in a few days here + shipping.
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Re: Just bought the evga rtx 2080 ti kingpin. 2020/01/13 01:42:45 (permalink)
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Not sure about the kit, would have to reassemble the card with block again and atm using stock cooler since again, still using old case and it doesn't fit enough rad etc. That also aside, I can't even buy the OLED kit in here which really sucks cause I also wanted to use it. In super position I get 42C or 43C or so after 5 hours, then again I am running 1200rpm push/pull cause I can't stand loud fans but I want the best temps so... many rads it is lol.

I also wanted to get that case (phateks 719 ethoo) but I can't get hold of it where I live in eu and it was much easier (+ cheaper) to get the o11d XL so I got that, just need to wait a week or two to get it cause its going to be available in a few days here + shipping.



No worries. I want to do push pull on stock radiator with 4 3000 rpm fans but they get to be loud lol!

I have 2 TX480 xspc rads and 1 xspc tx360 rad after I took the ftw3 out of my loop I left my 2 480s to cool my 9900k and honestly it didnt do much different with out gpu in the loop for temps at 5.1ghz.
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