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2019/04/10 09:29:14 (permalink)
Recently I got my first AIO for my CPU and I have really appreciated the results so far. This got me thinking I could also do the same for my 2080Ti. My card runs about 32-35C idle and generally around 65-70 under max load (sometimes hitting 72/73). From what I have read I don't think these temps are horrible for air but I could be wrong. Will these types of temps long term reduce the life and performance of my card? That is mainly why I am looking at the hybrid kit. Also I don't really overclock but I definitely would look into it if the card ran very cool. Thoughts?
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/10 09:58:55 (permalink)
    Worth it alone for a quieter card and cooler. As long as you dont get one of those noisy pumps.

    If neither is bothering you then dont bother.

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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/10 12:28:58 (permalink)
    It's worth it for sure especially overclocking but it's not necessary at all unless you want to OC at a granular level
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/10 15:22:16 (permalink)
    The pump whine can be loud, but overall, it's worth it.

    With the stock triple fan cooler on my 2080 ti FTW3 Ultra, I was getting mid-60's to low 70's with stock settings and closer to 80C with a +110 core and +800 memory overclock. And that was with an aggressive fan curve. It was quite loud. Paired with a 3440x1440 120hz monitor, during long gaming stints, my core clocks would hover around 1950-2000MHz, on average. FPS in Division 2 would bounce around between 75 - 100.

    Since switching to the hybrid cooler, with the same overclock settings, my card now hovers in the high 50's during a 2-3 hour Division 2 session. My core clocks now hover between 2070-2080MHz and my FPS hovers between 100-120 and almost never drops below 90. It achieves all this with a pretty subdued fan curve as well, so it's significantly quieter. 

    As for the loud pump whine, there are a couple of threads around here discussing it and Jason from EVGA is currently looking into the issue. Many believe it's due to the pump running at 100% all the time. Some have rectified the noise by plugging the pump directly into the motherboard and decreasing pump speed to 80% or 85% in bios or fan control software. Those people have reported that this makes the pump near silent while only increasing temps by 1-3C.

    With that said, the noise does not negatively impact performance and the hybrid kit definitely drops temps considerably. In addition, Jason from EVGA is currently looking into the pump noise complaints. Regardless, I'd still recommend the kit. I'm happy with mine and plan to keep it in the system until I build the courage to do a full custom open loop. 
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/10 16:36:32 (permalink)
    im in the same boat as well, i already have great overclocks on my 2080 ti and im fairly certain it will not improve those at all.
    its really just to get rid of the noise and keep it around the 50c mark
    75% plus fan noise is really loud
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/10 17:11:49 (permalink)
    I'm pretty sure my 2080ti wsnt anywhere close to 2200mhz. In fact I think it would boost to 2115 and then drop from there with the stock cooler at 100% fans as I never let them run anything other then 100%

    And that's even with AB.

    Now I dont know what the memory would do prior as I did not try before the block.. 2205 and 8450mhz on the ram afterward installing the hydro block.

    Water cooling always encreases overclocking for me.. atleast getting one notch higher for clock.

    But the silence is always worth it.

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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/13 03:09:27 (permalink)
    EVGA is using a really ****ty pump this generation. It is way louder than my 980ti and 1080ti hybrids. I have tried 3 cards so far to get a quiet one.
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/14 06:42:30 (permalink)
    If a little whine doesn't bother you the Hybrid Kit does work well, keeps my RTX 2080 FE nice and cool, I don't think the pump is necessarily crapppy, it's just noisy.  
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/14 06:54:36 (permalink)
    Mine has been fine, and not noisy at all, but I may have gotten a really good one...
     
    Depends on what you want...I was just experimenting (since I once again have some expendable income)..
     
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/14 08:37:04 (permalink)
    Mine been fine score in Port Royal with the stock air fans was 9530 with change the kit took the score to 9606 and put i in the top 100. Card run cooler and the pump is very quite on mine. As  i type this its at ideal is 22.0 c and runs about 29.0 c on air. Under load it runs close to same in difference 7.0 to 5.0 c cooler. If you don't overclock is it worth the money ???.If I really wanted the card to run the best full water block is the way to go. I just Don't like draining the system any time you work on it.

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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/14 19:37:54 (permalink)
    The installation instructions could be a lot better, some of the steps are way to vague and the pictures included are not that helpful. The internal cable is too short and also gets in the way of the shroud, a bit tricky to place the shroud on and screw it tight. I almost put a screw through the pump cable. Performance though is better than the stock XC2 Ultra cooler. Tubes are also quite stiff.
     
    I bought 2 ML120s to replace the stock fan and my temps improved dramatically. Idle is around 35C and max so far is 62C.
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/15 03:23:39 (permalink)
    For GTX1080Ti/RTX2080/RTX2080Ti Hybrid kit is best investment.
    That's perfection, better temperatures on graphic processor than any cooler and all heat go out of case.
    No better investment if we talk about high end graphic card series.
    For gaming and every day use is not important is it temperature of graphic card 55-60C on AIO or 45-50C with full custom loop.
     
    I used AIO coolers from beginning and I used on them and I can't imagine high end computer without them or custom watercooling. 
     
     
     

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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/15 13:48:22 (permalink)
    If one buys good parts for there first water loop. You'll then be all set for many years to come! Rescuing the pump/res and rad and fans for many builds to come.. usually the CPU blocks will work with future cpus as well.

    So it's really only a large investment once.

    Then you'll know you'll have the best cooling all the time and no flaky load noisy aio pumps to worry about.. if one gets a D5 pump it will be silent once the air is bled from the lines and good for 10+ years easy.

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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/15 14:50:37 (permalink)
    The pump noise at 100% is way louder / more noticeable than fan noise. It's a buzzing sound like a fridge. So if for some reason you can't run the pump cable to your motherboard/fan controller/whatever I would definitely not get the kit. Reduced to < 80% you can't hear it and it doesn't seem to affect the cooling.
     
    This is consistent enough that I don't think it's just 'bad' pumps out there doing this. I think anyone who can't hear it is already running it on lower power somehow or already has a ton of noise in their computer area. 
     
     
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/15 16:45:20 (permalink)
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    If one buys good parts for there first water loop. You'll then be all set for many years to come! Rescuing the pump/res and rad and fans for many builds to come.. usually the CPU blocks will work with future cpus as well.

    So it's really only a large investment once.

    Then you'll know you'll have the best cooling all the time and no flaky load noisy aio pumps to worry about.. if one gets a D5 pump it will be silent once the air is bled from the lines and good for 10+ years easy.



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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/04/16 01:51:34 (permalink)
    I just sent in my RTX 2080 Hybrid for step up and didn't have any pump issues with noise. It performed well, but it just made me want an actual custom loop. Will be going with dual 420 mm rads soon :)


     

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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/06/02 18:47:08 (permalink)
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    If a little whine doesn't bother you the Hybrid Kit does work well, keeps my RTX 2080 FE nice and cool, I don't think the pump is necessarily crapppy, it's just noisy.  


    did you have any trouble installing your on the founders edition. Mine didnt work :\ the 14 pin adapter that connects to the pump and the vrm fan doesnt work and nothing turns on. is there something different being a FE card because i know the original shroud has a duaghter board where the 14 pin connects to and from there then two oem fans are connected along with the RGB led. 


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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/06/03 05:57:24 (permalink)
    Nope no trouble installing, but the pump did start making a grinding noise, I sent it back for rma
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/06/03 06:50:42 (permalink)
    Recently installed the Hybrid cooler on my 2080ti black. It has made a huge difference to its performance. I now feel like i have the card I should have had when I bought it. For me the Hybrid cooler is well worth it, however only because the stock cooler on the 2080ti is not fit for purpose. 
     
    The pump on mine is very quiet, hopefully it will stay that way. 
     
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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/06/03 07:02:25 (permalink)
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    Recently installed the Hybrid cooler on my 2080ti black. It has made a huge difference to its performance. I now feel like i have the card I should have had when I bought it. For me the Hybrid cooler is well worth it, however only because the stock cooler on the 2080ti is not fit for purpose. 
     
    The pump on mine is very quiet, hopefully it will stay that way. 
     




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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/06/03 07:22:00 (permalink)
    Yes it is. You can hold over 2100 if you stay under 50c, which is possible with proper case cooling, the hybrid kit and obviously silicon lottery plays a part. I maxed out last night around 48c in BFV. Witcher 3 stays around 45c. Most benchmarks are around 45c with +175-195 and +1000 on memory.  Before it would go into the 60's and 70's, which would throttle the card. I noticed in benchmarks it starts at 2250 and throttles back to around 2130 even at that low 45c temp, but it stays there. I am considering investing in a complete loop. Putting everything under water will be nice. Corsair has a decent looking system that just came out. Need to decide before the 3800x hits.

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    Re: Is the Hybrid Kit worth it? 2019/06/03 16:24:05 (permalink)
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    Yes it is. You can hold over 2100 if you stay under 50c, which is possible with proper case cooling, the hybrid kit and obviously silicon lottery plays a part. I maxed out last night around 48c in BFV. Witcher 3 stays around 45c. Most benchmarks are around 45c with +175-195 and +1000 on memory.  Before it would go into the 60's and 70's, which would throttle the card. I noticed in benchmarks it starts at 2250 and throttles back to around 2130 even at that low 45c temp, but it stays there. I am considering investing in a complete loop. Putting everything under water will be nice. Corsair has a decent looking system that just came out. Need to decide before the 3800x hits.




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