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2020/09/27 01:21:10 (permalink)
My old rig is still running decently (sans a good video card).
When I can finally snag a 3080, will my old i7-4790K (4 GHz) be sufficient?
Thanks for advice...

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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 01:27:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dcell 2020/10/02 02:26:39
Yeah that is too old, if you can get a decent mobo psu and cpu for cheapish and go for a 3060ti or 3070 when they come out, because the CPU is gonna bottleneck you a lot.
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 02:02:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dcell 2020/10/02 02:26:34
the resolution is also a factor, at 1080p you'll have the CPU be a limiting factor, at 4k it'll be less so. it's also not just a question of if the CPU will be a limiting factor, but how much, and with what games. That isn't to say a CPU/motherboard upgrade isn't a good idea, but how badly it's needed can vary depending on what resolution your playing at.
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 02:27:06 (permalink)
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the resolution is also a factor, at 1080p you'll have the CPU be a limiting factor, at 4k it'll be less so. it's also not just a question of if the CPU will be a limiting factor, but how much, and with what games. That isn't to say a CPU/motherboard upgrade isn't a good idea, but how badly it's needed can vary depending on what resolution your playing at.




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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 05:58:40 (permalink)
I plan on using my i7 6700K for 4K gaming with a 3080. My gpu will most likely bottleneck before my cpu does. So it’s all up to resolution if you are playing at 1080P or 1440P it’s kindove a waste to get a 3080 and pair it with a old cpu. 
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 06:51:35 (permalink)
Even at 4K your CPU will be holding you back some with a 3080.

It will work, you'll just be leaving some performance untapped compared to newer (especially overclocked) CPUs.

Edit: I say this because I saw a 3090 review were an Intel 8700K (stock, no OC) actually showed very small gains at 4K (6 to 7%) over the 3080 compared to other reviewers that used Intel 9 and 10 series chips that were overclocked to 5GHz or a little more (10 to 20% gains at 4K over the 3080).
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 06:57:06 (permalink)
Maybe look into upgrading, new ryzen chips coming out very soon and 10NM intel coming out in the spring. 
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 07:49:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dcell 2020/10/03 14:54:26
There's a good Tom's hardware article that shows the potential bottleneck of a 4770k compared to modern cpus. If you play only at 4k ultra you will see very little bottlenecking. For anything else you definitely will. If you are at 1440p/160hz you probably won't see much of a perceivable bottleneck either since these cards play most games much higher than 160fps at that resolution.
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 07:52:23 (permalink)
I'd wait, get afterburner/rivatuner, and run some in game tests to see if it performs "good enough". Potentially look into ocing the cpu 100-300mhz if it's not quite what you want. Worst case upgrade..
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 08:20:35 (permalink)
You would be surprised to see how many games struggle even at 60 fps on these old quad cores. RDR2, ANTHEM, KCD are just some examples.
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 08:22:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dcell 2020/10/03 14:55:15
Your CPU and RAM is and will bottleneck....
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 08:41:39 (permalink)
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 08:46:18 (permalink)
I would wait for RYZEN 4th gen, and 3200-3600 is good speed.
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 10:15:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dcell 2020/10/03 14:55:40
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My old rig is still running decently (sans a good video card).
When I can finally snag a 3080, will my old i7-4790K (4 GHz) be sufficient?
Thanks for advice...


I mean, it would work so maybe get the 3080 and then get a new CPU & MOBO whenever you can afford it. I wouldn't get the 3070 because for the extra ~$200 you are getting a lot. Just my opinion tho... good luck on whatever you choose!
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 10:41:24 (permalink)
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Whats the best ram for ryzen 3900XT? for gaming




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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 10:46:01 (permalink)
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My old rig is still running decently (sans a good video card).
When I can finally snag a 3080, will my old i7-4790K (4 GHz) be sufficient?
Thanks for advice...


I mean, it would work so maybe get the 3080 and then get a new CPU & MOBO whenever you can afford it. I wouldn't get the 3070 because for the extra ~$200 you are getting a lot. Just my opinion tho... good luck on whatever you choose!


Agreed, something will always be the bottleneck so may as well get the gpu you want now and get the cpu to better match it down the road. Would suck for your 4790 to die next year and be stuck with a 3070 and a 10900k. Lol
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 12:30:54 (permalink)
Do CPU’s even die lol?
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 13:23:17 (permalink)
Get the card now, then upgrade your PC later.. Or save the money and wait. It all depends on the games you're going to play and the resolution/Hz.  If the card you have is so old it runs like crap on basic games, it might be a good upgrade. Then when you build a new PC the card will have the horsepower to keep up.

But if your current games are running fine for you, and you want to play newer games that will require a better CPU, waiting until you build a new PC to upgrade might be the better deal, especially if it won't be for another 6 months or so.

If you can't buy a new PC and will be stuck with that one for a good while still, just wait and get a 3070.  You'll get the best performance your PC will be able to handle and it will add Raytracing, and DLSS.
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 14:00:33 (permalink)
I have a Ryzen 2700X and I was wondering the same thing. I might just pull for the trigger on a 3900X for this bad boy!
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 14:10:50 (permalink)
high core low clock cpus don’t perform well in games, that is why is Still top king for gaming. Wait until RYZEN 4th gen where they focusing on clock speed.
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 14:20:33 (permalink)
I7 10700K and i9 10900K seems to be the best if you want high frames  in games according to benchmark.s 
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 14:23:25 (permalink)
Short story yes it will bottleneck, at 4k resolutions its not a severe bottleneck about 8%. 1440p is a significant bottleneck about 18%, and 1080p your losing about 45% of you frames. You can minimize this until you upgrade your CPU, most 4790ks will run 4.6ghz+OC.

https://www.tomshardware....cpu-scaling-benchmarks

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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 14:34:57 (permalink)
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Short story yes it will bottleneck, at 4k resolutions its not a severe bottleneck about 8%. 1440p is a significant bottleneck about 18%, and 1080p your losing about 45% of you frames. You can minimize this until you upgrade your CPU, most 4790ks will run 4.6ghz+OC.

https://www.tomshardware....cpu-scaling-benchmarks


I got my 4790k up to 4.6ghz no problem and know a good number of folks that have done the same. Depending on your cooler I've seen plenty of folks push the 4.7/4.8, but I couldn't get mine to be stable. :/
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 14:36:28 (permalink)
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I7 10700K and i9 10900K seems to be the best if you want high frames  in games according to benchmark.s 


Yeah, the 10900k if you want to more future proof your cpu.. The 10850k is almost as good and you can actually buy it at msrp unlike the 900..
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 14:40:07 (permalink)
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With Ryzens you don't want your RAM stored to exceed your infinity fabric speed, so low latency 3600 ram or 3733 if you wanna adjust your bclk on your Ryzen.

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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 14:52:15 (permalink)
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I7 10700K and i9 10900K seems to be the best if you want high frames  in games according to benchmark.s 


Yeah, the 10900k if you want to more future proof your cpu.. The 10850k is almost as good and you can actually buy it at msrp unlike the 900..

I’m planning to upgrade my i7 6700K with either a RYZEN 4th gen (if they Perform well in games) or wait for 10NM intel this spring for PCIE gen 4 support. 
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 20:27:53 (permalink)
Hey, if looking I have a i7 6700k and motherboard I will be selling in a little bit. ;)


 
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 20:33:18 (permalink)
Its a sad day that the 4790k is being retired. 
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 20:50:17 (permalink)
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Its a sad day that the 4790k is being retired. 




Served well, I had one as well. Was a nice CPU for it's time.


 
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Re: Is my CPU too old to support an RTX-3080? 2020/09/27 21:05:47 (permalink)
Yeah, bummed to see it finally start to become obsolete, but it had a pretty solid run. Definitely want to see how bad the performance hit is in certain games though.
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