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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/02 21:04:02 (permalink)
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As far as I know that 600$ is not for one trade, it is for the whole year.
We have to file 1099 for the people who plow snow and mow the grass at our properties.
We get billed monthly, it is not over 600$, but at the end of the year because we paid them a couple two or three thousand we have to file the 1099 to the feds and send the landscaper a copy.
Hey pays income and we get the deduction.
 
So I would think the company that you trade xcoin for USD, if it is more than 600$ for the calendar year, they have to file 1099 for you.


We are talking about trading/exchanging your crypto for a different crypto in which the new tax law has nothing to do with cashing out to USD on this. It's based on the trade/exchange of crypto to crypto now. Each time you trade/exchange a crypto for another crypto, it's a taxable event.
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/03 14:18:25 (permalink)
Yea, you just need to read a little farther as to what that "taxable event" means. Because as I stated in my example the trade from eth to btc there was a taxable event. Said event is taxing the gains of said trade.

1031 was a way to make taxable events only trigger when trading crypto to/from fiat. So coin to coin before was not a taxable event and now it is.


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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/03 17:01:32 (permalink)
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Yea, you just need to read a little farther as to what that "taxable event" means. Because as I stated in my example the trade from eth to btc there was a taxable event. Said event is taxing the gains of said trade.

1031 was a way to make taxable events only trigger when trading crypto to/from fiat. So coin to coin before was not a taxable event and now it is.

The end result is that when you mine a crypto and then exchange it for a crypto that can be exchanged into USD, you will be taxed on the crypto to crypto exchange and then again when you exchange it to USD. This is a headache which also lowers the gain of mining a different crypto and you may as well mine a crypto that can be exchanged directly for the USD, like Ethereum, if that's what your goal in mining is. For the miner that has just a few gpu mining, it's simply the easiest way to go.
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/03 19:58:34 (permalink)
if you look at the example i posted again the trades on taxable gains would end identically to what it would be if you removed step 2 and only taxed the original ETH value going straight to USD, no more and no less. the only thing that the removal of 1031 REALLY does is force people to show how they went from the initial income to many times more when finally getting to USD, or other fiat currency. because, again, you are only taxed on the gain/loss of value from the previous trade/income.
 
honestly, i would love it if more people get scared due to misinformation and/or misunderstanding as the current rate of expansion on exchanges is literally crippling. nothing has really changed and the US Government is still getting the same "fair share" as before, except now it is getting paid smaller amounts more often than a big chunk here and there. granted you may argue that they are earning more from people who trade assets within a years time due to the higher taxation rate for short term gains over long term. but even then if you are keeping your accounting books clean, and not fraudulent, nothing really has changed. it's just harder for people to ignore reporting these trades and/or cooking their books to show substantially lower gains that what were truly made.
 
with this i will end this conversation as it seems rather clear people will believe what they will on the matter of taxation. i just wish people looked at the math to understand the situation instead of listening to people ranting on youtube...
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/03 20:02:51 (permalink)
Guys guys guys, start another thread!

 

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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/04 02:35:14 (permalink)
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if you look at the example i posted again the trades on taxable gains would end identically to what it would be if you removed step 2 and only taxed the original ETH value going straight to USD, no more and no less. the only thing that the removal of 1031 REALLY does is force people to show how they went from the initial income to many times more when finally getting to USD, or other fiat currency. because, again, you are only taxed on the gain/loss of value from the previous trade/income.
 
honestly, i would love it if more people get scared due to misinformation and/or misunderstanding as the current rate of expansion on exchanges is literally crippling. nothing has really changed and the US Government is still getting the same "fair share" as before, except now it is getting paid smaller amounts more often than a big chunk here and there. granted you may argue that they are earning more from people who trade assets within a years time due to the higher taxation rate for short term gains over long term. but even then if you are keeping your accounting books clean, and not fraudulent, nothing really has changed. it's just harder for people to ignore reporting these trades and/or cooking their books to show substantially lower gains that what were truly made.
 
with this i will end this conversation as it seems rather clear people will believe what they will on the matter of taxation. i just wish people looked at the math to understand the situation instead of listening to people ranting on youtube...


There is zero misinformation coming from me, it's you that does not understand the new tax law and to want people to be scared of entering the crypto arena is flat out selfishness I don't run into very often.
 
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Guys guys guys, start another thread!



Who are you? This thread is about the profitability of Ethereum. The OP has been told how he can double his profit mining a different crypto. It's simply just not true. There are several steps that must be taken when mining a different crypto, which takes time and time is money. There are exchange fees involved. Now there is extra taxes when exchanging the mined crypto to a crypto that can be exchanged for the USD. Unless Ethereum had horrible profit for mining, then yes a different crypto would be preferred, but that's simply not the case.
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/04 07:55:49 (permalink)
As to original thread...

As overall network hashing rate increases - One would think the 1080 ti will soon take over from 1070 as most profitable if it hasn’t already.

Not a single 1080 ti in stock, of course that could be just post Holidays effect
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/04 08:25:38 (permalink)
Per Titan V - If you delved into these hashing algos I bet you could modify a few lines of code to take advantage of the tensor cores (the real reason to buy this card) and see massive hashing increases
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/04 09:51:07 (permalink)
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Christine is a nut that demands attention.

That said. Wow, they really did make like kind of exchanges a taxable event. Theoretically you would not pay more any more tax than a straight up capital gain analysis at end of year. That becomes an accounting nightmare.

Definitely not crypto friendly

Please let's keep on track of the OP. Thanks.

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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/04 11:44:28 (permalink)
Wow Roy, 3 posts in a row this time, new record.
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/06 19:18:03 (permalink)
Would it be good to dual mine zcash + siacoin?
I have a GTX 1070 FE with Samsung chips. Currently getting 32.5 Mh/s mining ETH. Overclocked of course.
But with all this talk about zcash, and dual mining, I may want to give it a try.



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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/07 07:46:16 (permalink)
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Would it be good to dual mine zcash + siacoin?
I have a GTX 1070 FE with Samsung chips. Currently getting 32.5 Mh/s mining ETH. Overclocked of course.
But with all this talk about zcash, and dual mining, I may want to give it a try.




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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/23 08:26:58 (permalink)
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I will try to send my titan V back for refund and just get 2 1080 ti hybrids if Nvidia accepts. I did some thinking and decided the titan V isn't worth the mega cost.




Agreed. Those V cards are pricey. 
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/24 12:29:03 (permalink)
ETH mining difficulty increased alot and my profits are way down according to calculators sites. I decided to give nicehash a try and still make sure i convert asap incase of hacking. 

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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/29 00:54:00 (permalink)
good thread! Thanks for the info
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/29 08:18:01 (permalink)
Looks like nicehash is the way to go?
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/29 11:42:01 (permalink)
The bottom line is for $11.00 a day work an hour extra it ill probably end up with more money in your pocket
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/01/30 17:12:58 (permalink)
zcash
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/02/01 01:43:11 (permalink)
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zcash


$4.5 per day per 1 unit 1080 ti,better then eth
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/02/06 00:18:58 (permalink)
so tour saying nice hash is better for my nvidia cards been on eth

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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/02/10 18:34:36 (permalink)
I cannot suggest zcash enough. It has such good volatility. And it isn't awful to mine.

That being said, I had read that nvidia cards were at a disadvantage compared to AMD cards in regard to ETH. So i have avoided it.

You should also check out BBR. They are 3.20USD each.
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/02/10 21:03:30 (permalink)
I would say nicehash is best for nvidia cards since you earn bitcoin and you can transfer bitcoin to coinbase for free using nicehash site :)

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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/02/11 14:42:14 (permalink)
For those looking into ZCash mining. I recommend mining it through Slushpool as they charge no fee currently. I've had no issues and you can set whatever payout threshold you want.
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/03/08 11:23:25 (permalink)
Slush runs good pools, but I've always used flypool (by the ethmine pool folks) or Nicehash.
I DID use slush's original Bitcoin pool for a long time, back in the day when I has some SHA256 ASICs.
 
As of right now, for the 1050 ti and 1060 ETH is better than ZEC, while they are a tossup *IF YOU ARE RUNNING EFFICIENT SETTINGS* for 1070 cards but if you are pushing that 1070 past about 70% TDP ZEC hashrate keeps increasing while ETH only needs about 70% to max hashrate due to the memory intensive limitations on ETH.
 
For the 1080 and 1080ti, ZEC remains better across the board.
 
This is mostly due to ETH holding up better since the January peaks than any other major cryptocoin - even Bitcoin has slid more as a percentage.
 

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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/04/06 17:49:57 (permalink)
It's not profitable to mine with gpu's anymore on ethereum with asics coming out for it
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/04/06 18:40:52 (permalink)
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It's not profitable to mine with gpu's anymore on ethereum with asics coming out for it


This may not be true. Bitmain isn't shipping this out until mid July and who knows if Etereum might hardfork and make the Ethereum ASIC miner worthless. Ethereum will go Proof of Stake and when that happens you can no longer mine Ethereum. Not sure when that will happen, but this Ethereum ASIC miner will be worthless at some point no matter what. just a bad purchase IMO and I don't see it making a big impact on Ethereum gpu mining.
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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/04/07 00:24:23 (permalink)
The Bitmain E3 is the only Ethash ASIC that has been announced to date - and it is almost IDENTICAL stats vs a well-optimized AMD RX 470/480/570/580 6-card rig, and slightly WORSE stats (a few less Mhash, a little more power usage) vs a well-optimized Nvidia GTX 1070 6- card rig.
 
By the time Bitmain can sell the ONE AND A HALF MILLION of these miners it would take just to MATCH the existing ETH total network hashrate (which would STILL leave GPU rigs profitable for folks with average or lower power cost), ETH will probably have moved to FULL Proof of Stake rendering them nearly worthless (the other coins that use the ethash algorithm COMBINED total to less then 20% of the hashrate in ETH itself).
 
It also doesn't ship 'till Mid July at the earliest - by which point the next-gen Nvidia cards should be starting to show up and BEATING it on efficiency.
 
For perspective - it has taken Bitmain over 2 YEARS to achieve a little over ONE Million S9 miners sold despite that unit being the UNQUESTIONED efficiency leader, and by a very wide margin for a LOT of that timeframe.
The ONLY selling point the E3 has is price, and Bitmain already has limits on how many chips it CAN get out of TSMC to make miners with on the current process node (there is a FAINT possibility that the E3 is based on 28nm tech, but even there TSMC has production limits and Bitmain is already hitting on them for some of their OTHER altcoin miners like the X3 and probably their SIA one).
 
I don't see the E3 having a major impact on mining profitability for a long time, and I don't see it KILLING GPU mining on ETH at all before ETH goes full Proof of Stake.
 
The ETH developers have already stated they do not plan to fork ETH over the existence of the E3 (they also know it's not a major threat to miners) though they have reserved the right to fork at a future date if someone comes up with an ethash ASIC miner that is in the ballpark of the "RUMORED BUT NOT SUBSTANTIATED" F3 unit and WOULD cause a fairly significant short-term threat to miners if it exists and was produced in 100,000+ quantity.
 

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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/04/23 20:40:55 (permalink)
a few days old but still... ETH is speeding up casper due to ASIC release. PoS will be arriving sooner than later.
 
http://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-1011


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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/05/01 02:43:06 (permalink)
Look what happened to Sia asics killed profitability overnight ,ETH fork fork fork but it looks like pow is coming sooner then later. Kinda glade I just got out of crypto, little upset I sold my gpus for 40% less then retail on ebay. I thought the market completely crashed now its recovered some :( . 1080 ti ftw3 790$ 2 msi 580 300$ shipped and many more)1070 an 1070 ti and 1060 6 gb take a heck of a loss close to a 1000$ fees and shipping but i made some crypto. I just remembered the old mining Apocalypse. It got BAD. Worst part is now I'm gaming on a gt 730, my 560 ti may be better but I can't find any gpu 4gb reasonable price 100$.

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Re: Is Ethermine one of most profitable for nvidia cards? 2018/05/01 11:50:43 (permalink)
gotta love people who panic... becoming too emotional and running on borrowed money is the best way to start off on the wrong foot. crypto will do what crypto does, swing wildly. and honestly i do not even consider what happened a crash. it was simply an overinflated market driven by emotional people borrowing money they didnt have hoping to get rich overnight. we are still sitting around early December 2017 high prices, which is much better than early 2017 prices, under $1,000. 


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