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Is 3090 KINGPIN actually binned or not?

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Re: Is 3090 KINGPIN actually binned or not? 2021/02/17 11:51:23 (permalink)
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https://www.3dmark.com/pr/717954 slight cold. ive scored 15,800+ but i would rather apples to apples
 
https://www.3dmark.com/pr/832549 this is completely ambient 
 

 
I dont see any kp scores saved to my account. either way it's just not as good.
I wasn't necessarily expecting a better core but i was absolutely expecting better memory. 
I have very average memory on my ftw3 and figured i would make the most gains here. I hear of ppl running 1600+ mem and i was looking for AT LEAST +1300. instead it's the same as my ftw3 so it would always be an uphill battle with this KP
 




Those are good scores but it isn't a fair comparison when one of them is watercooled and running 11C colder. The stock memory cooling in the KPE is not good so I would expect it to run higher with proper watercooling. Effective clocks aren't matching requested clocks in the KPE score. 2220MHz avg should be around 15,7K. You'll need XOC BIOS and Classified tool for this. 
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Re: Is 3090 KINGPIN actually binned or not? 2021/02/17 12:08:02 (permalink)
no those are both my ftw3 scores
my kp wasnt in that ballpark
 
if i had a kp doing 15.55k without anything i would consider that golden. imagine a waterblock and 1000w bios with some classified tinkering 
I wish that was my kp. 
 
thats just my ftw3 using px1 straight clocks
 
I've already given up on this kingpin i need a better memory oc out the box
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Re: Is 3090 KINGPIN actually binned or not? 2021/02/17 12:21:03 (permalink)
I understand. Well let me know if you want to give another shot to KPE. Send me a PM and I'll help you to get the best score possible.
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Re: Is 3090 KINGPIN actually binned or not? 2021/02/17 14:59:05 (permalink)
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no those are both my ftw3 scores
my kp wasnt in that ballpark
 
if i had a kp doing 15.55k without anything i would consider that golden. imagine a waterblock and 1000w bios with some classified tinkering 
I wish that was my kp. 
 
thats just my ftw3 using px1 straight clocks
 
I've already given up on this kingpin i need a better memory oc out the box




Right, we already knew you had a golden FTW3, bully for you. That chip should have gone into a KP card but the stars aligned and it made it into their second-tier card.
 
But it would have been good to see what the KP card was doing in the same setup, for an apples-to-apples comparison. 
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Re: Is 3090 KINGPIN actually binned or not? 2021/02/21 16:13:11 (permalink)
Some FTW3 have golden sample chips.

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Re: Is 3090 KINGPIN actually binned or not? 2021/03/19 03:36:57 (permalink)
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no those are both my ftw3 scores
my kp wasnt in that ballpark
 
if i had a kp doing 15.55k without anything i would consider that golden. imagine a waterblock and 1000w bios with some classified tinkering 
I wish that was my kp. 
 
thats just my ftw3 using px1 straight clocks
 
I've already given up on this kingpin i need a better memory oc out the box
do you remember what your card did max oc on air? I hit 14560 max on air with 500 watt xoc bios.

3090 ftw3 ultra

Someone offered me his 3090 kingpin and wanna see if it's worth it?
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Re: Is 3090 KINGPIN actually binned or not? 2021/07/14 21:57:32 (permalink)
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TiN when talking about the 2080 Ti gen, said not to get too fixated on the clock speed of the GPU and memory. I think it may have been on xdevs.com 
 
But to look at the results and benchmark scores.
 
The chips could be better quality in terms of number of CUDA cores and how well they crunch numbers for a given amount of electricity. 
 
I would agree that there haven't been enough chips of this gen to properly bin relative to previous generations.
 
They do advertise K|NGP|Ns with the highest boost clocks and texture fill rate. The next highest are the FTW Hybrids. No other AIB partner for Nvidia does that as far as I am aware. 
 
As far as real world gaming performance, you probably are just better off getting a FTW and using the higher power BIOS. Get it under a good waterblock, even better. That will probably get you 90-95% of the way there. Kingpins are sold with lots of extra bells and whistles for overclocking that don't necessarilly translate into more frames, just higher benchmark scores. Some games might respond well to VRAM overclocking, especially VR simulation games like DCS. They also keep resale value very well. 
 
Mine is getting here Saturday. I'll post some 3dmark scores. I also like the 4K and 8K Unigine Superposition benchmark. Probably by Monday or Tuesday night. Cheers
 
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TiN when talking about the 2080 Ti gen, said not to get too fixated on the clock speed of the GPU and memory. I think it may have been on xdevs.com 
 
But to look at the results and benchmark scores.
 
The chips could be better quality in terms of number of CUDA cores and how well they crunch numbers for a given amount of electricity. 
 
I would agree that there haven't been enough chips of this gen to properly bin relative to previous generations.
 
They do advertise K|NGP|Ns with the highest boost clocks and texture fill rate. The next highest are the FTW Hybrids. No other AIB partner for Nvidia does that as far as I am aware. 
 
As far as real world gaming performance, you probably are just better off getting a FTW and using the higher power BIOS. Get it under a good waterblock, even better. That will probably get you 90-95% of the way there. Kingpins are sold with lots of extra bells and whistles for overclocking that don't necessarilly translate into more frames, just higher benchmark scores. Some games might respond well to VRAM overclocking, especially VR simulation games like DCS. They also keep resale value very well. 
 
Mine is getting here Saturday. I'll post some 3dmark scores. I also like the 4K and 8K Unigine Superposition benchmark. Probably by Monday or Tuesday night. Cheers
 
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What about Galax and the HOF Cards ? 
 
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Re: Is 3090 KINGPIN actually binned or not? 2022/08/01 11:34:43 (permalink)
My 3090 KP is a late production and there's no way its any special bin.  2070mhz stable tops at like 45C on 400w or so, normal gaming.  Not any better than a normal 3080 Ti, 3080 or 3090 FTW3.
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