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Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself!

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2010/10/19 11:40:50 (permalink)
http://foldingforum.org/v...mp;t=16375&start=0
 
Just go check it out.  I think a LOT  of good info is in there.
 
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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 12:14:11 (permalink)
    Fascinating stuff Drougnor.. good reading, and thanks for posting the link! Nice to see PG recognizing the issues and to see they're working on most of them. Too bad the OP teams had big contributors leave.. reminds me of bwm's issues here not too long ago. I know there was other issues with that story..lol, but points inequality was one of their biggest beefs the whole time they were here.

       
                 
      
          
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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 12:16:20 (permalink)
    Least they're working on the point system.


     
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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 12:22:51 (permalink)
    Sweet! Sounds like a lot of good things are coming soon, including the ATI client, and maybe an a matter of days!
     
    But ya know what that means?
     
    It's a nice bump for F@h, but that also means nearly every team is going to get a good bump in PPD, except us! Our community is like 5% ATI, but [H] and Overclock.net could be near 50% ATI. WE GOT TO RAMP IT UP PEOPLE!!! FOLD MORE!!!
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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 12:33:04 (permalink)
    I can't go any faster!


     
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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 12:49:18 (permalink)
    On the note of PPD, he kind of skirted around the issue like I feel he should have.  He basically said they are debating new benchmarking methods, but seemed to leave it open that it would be similiar to before:  The more science you are doing, the more points you will get.  That is definitely how it should be.
     
    And I would not be surprised if a lot of our dedicated machine folders picked up AMD cards if they proved to be ahead of NVidia cards.  On that note though, Pande group has stated a couple of times the actual architechture of NVidia cards is better suited for most WU's.  AMD cards have a very large number of shader units running in parallel, and few WU's are able to fully utilize them all.  Few even fully utilize all of NVidia's, but NVidia's shaders pack more punch per shader then AMD's.  EDIT: (has to do a lot with the programming also, read link below).
     
    Much better info then my own on the AMD/NVidia differences: http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?p=117995#p117995
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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 13:04:35 (permalink)
    It looks to me like they dodged the question a bit with the 2684 issues.  I do support his idea that machines with only 8 cores shouldn't get -bigadv work units, raise that limit to 12, or 16 to make them worth more.
     
    Adding bonuses to the single core is a good idea, make them "worth" doing.
     
    The AMD cards and such don't concern me too much, or the integrated client as I can get it all set up on my own or  people can use some of the custom apps like Jedi's to make things easier.
     
    Client side SMP Bonus calc would be very dangerous as its too easy to falsify and cheat the system, not that I would know how to do it.
     
    Will be interesting to see what comes of the bigadv discussions.





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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 13:20:26 (permalink)
    drougnor,
    Thank you for finding the article and providing the link. Interesting article.

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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 16:38:04 (permalink)
    Not to turn this into a flame thread but it would be nifty if I could use my AMD 1090T six core to run -bigadv units.  I've got it OC'd to 4.2Ghz and it's perfectly stable.  I'm using Windows 7 64bit.  I don't even want to try to use it with a VMware setup because I'd be too afraid of putting out junk results.  Just say'n.


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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 16:47:03 (permalink)
    brcromer

    Not to turn this into a flame thread but it would be nifty if I could use my AMD 1090T six core to run -bigadv units.  I've got it OC'd to 4.2Ghz and it's perfectly stable.  I'm using Windows 7 64bit.  I don't even want to try to use it with a VMware setup because I'd be too afraid of putting out junk results.  Just say'n.


    You can, but you must run a modified... something... I don't know the details, but it's either a modified version of notfred's client, or a modified Folding@home client. People have done it, but Vijay Pande himself didn't recommend it.
     
    Besides, the X6 rocks SMP anyway
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    Re:Interesting thread on Foldingforum.org! Good info from Vijay Pande himself! 2010/10/19 17:46:16 (permalink)
    drougnor
    Just go check it out.  I think a LOT  of good info is in there.

    Nah, am trying to PimpRig my system! 
     
    Thanks, was a good read.

         
       

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