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https://www.techpowerup.com/262820/intels-comet-lake-absence-at-ces-reportedly-related-to-power-consumption-wall Reports are flooding the web regarding Intel's total lack of reference to their upcoming Comet Lake family of CPUs, which will be branded under the Intel core 10000 series. As reports would have it, motherboard makers had stock of LGA 1200 motherboards ready to showcase at CES, but were told to pull them out in what is equivalent to a logistical "last minute". It seems that both Intel's lack of commitment to Comet Lake on its CES presentation and absence of ecosystem showcase at this year's CES might have something to do with, well, close to shame on Intel's parts. Comet Lake will increase the maximum core count for their desktop CPUs up to 10 cores and 20 logical threads. But being built on the same 14 nm process as previous Intel generations since Skylake, there isn't much that can be done to offset increased power consumption. This is why industry sources are claiming Intel decided to skip Comet Lake at this CES - a difficulty to rein in the processors' power consumption in time for the event, with power consumption hitting 300 W. And with Intel's Core i9 10900K being configured with a PL2 (Power Level 2) of 250 W, a maximum 300 W under full load seems more than plausible. In my opinion Intel should have at least announced more info on the new CPUs whether they are fully ready or not. In my opinion this just makes Intel look like they are falling further behind AMD.
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/10 10:11:00
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Interesting that they had a last min change .... sounds more like a Code issue that hardware ... or they would have known months ago
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/10 10:20:27
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Wow for a company that the price of its stock shares are higher than AMD cant get their things together.🤣🤣🤣
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/10 10:45:16
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I really never thought I'd see the day where Intel dropped the ball this badly. Most of my adult life they've been king of the mountaintop with their CPUs ever since they beat the Athlon x2...
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/10 10:47:01
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/10 10:59:48
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Probably best to scrap the whole thing, they can ride it out with the 9900K.
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/11 13:50:53
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Wow for a company that the price of its stock shares are higher than AMD cant get their things together.🤣🤣🤣
AMD Market Cap 56B ---> VS <--- Intel Market Cap 252B Intel is well Over 4 Times bigger than AMD ... AMD is not as diversified as Intel AMD does Not Fab their own products ... though this currently looks like a good move by AMD
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/11 14:38:16
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I am waiting for Ryzen 4000 processors for my X570 to perk up performance.
Maybe in 3 months something will surface at NewEgg?
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/11 15:22:41
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atfrico
Wow for a company that the price of its stock shares are higher than AMD cant get their things together.🤣🤣🤣
AMD Market Cap 56B ---> VS <--- Intel Market Cap 252B
Intel is well Over 4 Times bigger than AMD ...
AMD is not as diversified as Intel
AMD does Not Fab their own products ... though this currently looks like a good move by AMD
Let me see🤔 Yet Intel can not get a 7mm CPU released on board having that much mula in the bank. 🙄 So that B represents bit coin money right🤣🤣🤣🤣 Patients with you i must have young padwan💆
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/13 13:32:52
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While I don't really see the point in Comet Lake, providing an incremental improvement on a new platform, the last thing Intel wants to do right now is showcase or rush to market a crappy product.
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/13 18:09:07
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380W TDP Design
Oooooooooooooo...... not so great. Ignore the "disagree" part. The rest of his reaction mimics my reaction.
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/13 18:49:15
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https://www.techpowerup.com/262820/intels-comet-lake-absence-at-ces-reportedly-related-to-power-consumption-wall
Reports are flooding the web regarding Intel's total lack of reference to their upcoming Comet Lake family of CPUs, which will be branded under the Intel core 10000 series. As reports would have it, motherboard makers had stock of LGA 1200 motherboards ready to showcase at CES, but were told to pull them out in what is equivalent to a logistical "last minute". It seems that both Intel's lack of commitment to Comet Lake on its CES presentation and absence of ecosystem showcase at this year's CES might have something to do with, well, close to shame on Intel's parts.
Comet Lake will increase the maximum core count for their desktop CPUs up to 10 cores and 20 logical threads. But being built on the same 14 nm process as previous Intel generations since Skylake, there isn't much that can be done to offset increased power consumption. This is why industry sources are claiming Intel decided to skip Comet Lake at this CES - a difficulty to rein in the processors' power consumption in time for the event, with power consumption hitting 300 W. And with Intel's Core i9 10900K being configured with a PL2 (Power Level 2) of 250 W, a maximum 300 W under full load seems more than plausible.
In my opinion Intel should have at least announced more info on the new CPUs whether they are fully ready or not. In my opinion this just makes Intel look like they are falling further behind AMD.
Should be a pretty powerful chip and the most powerful gaming chip on the market. I've had my 9900K up over 200W without any overclock, so it's pretty easy to see how they would be pushing 300W with 25% more cores and some higher clocks. Maybe they are trying to get their yields and bins dialed in so they can hit their target clocks with slightly lower voltages and power draw.
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/13 19:57:00
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🤔 Nvidia.is aiming for the "g"s for.gigawatts aside for.the gs (money) get it?😁🤣🤣🤣.
I can't.wait to see those crying for their electric bill this summer and the end of the year
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/13 20:22:32
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Intel Readies Core i9-10990XE With 22 Cores & 44 Threads – 380W TDP Design & Up To 5 GHz All-Core Boost
https://wccftech.com/intel-core-i9-10990xe-22-core-380w-5-ghz-all-core-cpu-rumor/
If true it will basically be a marketing stunt, like the 56 core Xeon currently. It technically exist so Intel can bench it against 64 core Rome for marketing reasons but Intel isn't actually selling it to anyone. This will be much like the 28 Core W-3175, except in even lower volume. Threadripper 4000 will launch early 2021 and from what my friend just told me this past week it will be damn FAST! Single core cinebench R20 will be over 550... on a 32 core CPU. If true Intel will probably release this Q4 so that the Ryzen 4000 16 core doesn't clobber their entire HEDT lineup.... speculation on my part. I honestly doubt this is true though, I have heard nothing at all about it.
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/13 21:16:42
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I'm all ears when that IPC finally gets a big boost.
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
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380W TDP Design
Oooooooooooooo...... not so great.
Ignore the "disagree" part. The rest of his reaction mimics my reaction.
Just show them the comparison TDP wattage comparison charts with AMD and watch them 🏃🤣🤣🤣
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/13 22:09:57
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did i say it was great???? no!!!!...I just posted it thats all
Intel still has to discount that CPU more due to the power that thing will eat ..and the A/C you need
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
2020/01/14 10:38:26
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Just show them the comparison TDP wattage comparison charts with AMD and watch them 🏃🤣🤣🤣
You really want to go down that route? Maybe we should bring you down to memory lane.
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
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atfrico
Just show them the comparison TDP wattage comparison charts with AMD and watch them 🏃🤣🤣🤣
You really want to go down that route?
Maybe we should bring you down to memory lane.
That was last decade.🙄 💆🤦
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Re: Intel's Comet Lake Absence at CES Reportedly Related to Power Consumption Wall
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