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2019/06/21 03:39:57 (permalink)
https://www.techpowerup.com/256700/intel-to-cut-prices-of-its-desktop-processors-by-15-in-response-to-ryzen-3000
 
Intel is embattled in the client-segment desktop processor business, with AMD's imminent launch of its 3rd generation Ryzen desktop processors. Intel's 9th generation Core processors may lose their competitiveness to AMD's offerings, and are expected to get relieved by the company's "Ice Lake" desktop processors only in 2020. Until then, Intel will market its processors through price-cuts, promotions, bundles, and focusing on their gaming prowess. 
 
According to these sources, prices of 9th generation Core processors could be cut by a minimum of 10 percent, and a maximum of 15 percent, varying by SKUs. This could see prices of popular gaming/enthusiast SKUs such as the Core i9-9900K, the i7-9700K, and the i5-9600K, drop by anywhere between $25 to $75. AMD is launching the Ryzen 9 3900X to compete with the i9-9900K, the Ryzen 7 3800X to compete with the i7-9700K, and the Ryzen 5 3600X to take on the i5-9600K. The three SKUs, according to AMD's internal testing, match the Intel chips at gaming, and beat them at content-creation tasks. At the heart of 3rd generation Ryzen processors is AMD's new Zen 2 microarchitecture, which brings significant IPC gains. AMD is also increasing core-counts on its mainstream desktop platform with the introduction of the Ryzen 9 family of 12-core and 16-core processors in the AM4 package.
 
In my personal opinion even if you are NOT a fan of AMD be grateful that AMD competition is helping to lower Intel CPU prices. 

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 03:59:17 (permalink)
    Intel is not capable any more to influence on other companies to sabotage AMD performance as before.
    Ryzen performance are improved in new update of Windows 10 and that will continue.
    Too much people is interest to buy AMD and bring will a lot of profit to every company who decide to sell their motherboards and graphic cards.
    With NVIDIA prices of RX series I would be closer to update on NAVI RX 5700 XT PCI-E 4.0 GPU optimized for gaming for far lower price then NVIDIA then buying RTX2060/2070 or RTX2080.
    You could buy Quad Fire RX 5700 XT for RTX2080Ti K|NGP|N. 
    Or Crossfire to outperform with waterblocks and complete custom loop for whole PC.
     
    But it's good if AMD launch in July card with similar performance as GTX1080Ti, actually little lower, it's little faster then RTX2070... then our GTX1080Ti from 2016 will last same period as Navi.
    There is a lot of life in GTX1080Ti in next years. First moment when I could upgrade GTX1080Ti is 2022. Before simply is not possible because other things parts of computer.
     
    Intel talk about their GPU as well, but now have problems with their very old Core not capable to boost higher any more.
      
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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 08:06:15 (permalink)
    lower prices help consumers which is better for everyone

      


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 08:30:50 (permalink)
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    lower prices help consumers which is better for everyone


    yep, this is why we need AMD to step it up in the in GPU dept, Nvida has it easy now like Intel had it the last decade, No way Intel could sell a $1700+ 10 core today..... Hope we say that about Nvidia some day.
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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 08:32:20 (permalink)
    I am waiting to see what Navvi will do 
     
    I have a 4K panel so even the RTX 2080 Ti comes up short
     

      


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 08:51:41 (permalink)
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    I am waiting to see what Navvi will do 
     
    I have a 4K panel so even the RTX 2080 Ti comes up short
     


    This year I expect Navi to be slightly stronger than an RTX 2070 but I'll wait for the final reviews. However NVIDIA will be releasing beefed up RTX 2070 and RTX 2080 models next month if the rumors are true. 

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 09:26:20 (permalink)
    It will be interesting to see what this does if AMD didn’t want to be seen as the cheap brand. Intel’s move could have the effect of making AMD look overpriced.

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 15:00:56 (permalink)
    Has Intel ever cut prices of an existing latest generation product line in response to AMD in the last two decades? Perhaps they have, but I cannot recall a time. As I recall, they adjust prices only when introducing a new generation of CPUs. But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. If the Digitimes journalist has got it right, this could be unprecedented, at least in recent decades.
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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 15:50:43 (permalink)
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    Has Intel ever cut prices of an existing latest generation product line in response to AMD in the last two decades? Perhaps they have, but I cannot recall a time. As I recall, they adjust prices only when introducing a new generation of CPUs. But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. If the Digitimes journalist has got it right, this could be unprecedented, at least in recent decades.


     
    I can't recall either.

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 21:27:36 (permalink)
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    Has Intel ever cut prices of an existing latest generation product line in response to AMD in the last two decades? Perhaps they have, but I cannot recall a time. As I recall, they adjust prices only when introducing a new generation of CPUs. But feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. If the Digitimes journalist has got it right, this could be unprecedented, at least in recent decades.


     
    I can't recall either.


    If ever, id say probably with the Pentium d's, but at that time there was a lot of shenanigans going on cause the D was .... not good lets say.

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/21 21:34:30 (permalink)
    First, it seems Intel is only, supposedly going to cut prices on LGA 1151 CPU's. But let's look at what  3rd generation Ryzen desktop processors offer in comparison. More PCIe lanes (PCIe 4.0 none the less) more cache, and more cores.
    To me, it seems a no brainer. Unless you are a die-hard Intel fanboy.
    Intel is the champion team that became so overconfident they forgot how to play. Yeah sure Intel makes good processors, but if Ryzen shows to be what AMD says, well enough said.
    So it is said the X570 boards may be pricey. But you don't have to purchase a new MB to use the new Ryzen. (only to use the full functionality of the new CPU) Unlike Intel, AMD seems to keep socket changes to a minimum. 
    Put that in your cup and drink it. No, I am not an AMD fanboy. 
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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/22 08:11:28 (permalink)
     
    So when is this supposed to happen? Checked Amazon - no price change on the i9-9900K (still $484). The i9-9900X is on Amazon for $999 ...I think that was over $1,000 not long ago, so maybe that has dropped? - but at $999 it's still ridiculously overpriced compared to what AMD have coming in a couple of weeks.
     
     


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/22 08:19:52 (permalink)
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    So it is said the X570 boards may be pricey. But you don't have to purchase a new MB to use the new Ryzen. (only to use the full functionality of the new CPU) Unlike Intel, AMD seems to keep socket changes to a minimum. 

    If you're looking to switch from Intel to AMD, you're going to need a new mobo (obviously lol), and with ASUS apparently charging over $700 for their X570 enthusiast board(s), that creates a bit of a barrier to switch. If you're already an AMD user you'll be smiling though. I'm guessing AMD aren't thrilled about ASUS trying to capitalize so much on AMD's new offerings.
     


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/22 09:03:48 (permalink)
    Quick someone post a Ron Paul it's happening meme STAT.

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/22 09:15:15 (permalink)
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    Quick someone post a Ron Paul it's happening meme STAT.
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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/24 13:14:36 (permalink)
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    So when is this supposed to happen? Checked Amazon - no price change on the i9-9900K (still $484). The i9-9900X is on Amazon for $999 ...I think that was over $1,000 not long ago, so maybe that has dropped? - but at $999 it's still ridiculously overpriced compared to what AMD have coming in a couple of weeks.

    Interesting. Amazon have just slightly raised their price for the i9-9900K to $493.89 (still shipped and sold by Amazon, not a third party seller). The i9-9900X is still at $999...
     


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/24 13:48:23 (permalink)
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    So when is this supposed to happen? Checked Amazon - no price change on the i9-9900K (still $484). The i9-9900X is on Amazon for $999 ...I think that was over $1,000 not long ago, so maybe that has dropped? - but at $999 it's still ridiculously overpriced compared to what AMD have coming in a couple of weeks.

    Interesting. Amazon have just slightly raised their price for the i9-9900K to $493.89 (still shipped and sold by Amazon, not a third party seller). The i9-9900X is still at $999...
     


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/24 13:59:49 (permalink)
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    So when is this supposed to happen? Checked Amazon - no price change on the i9-9900K (still $484). The i9-9900X is on Amazon for $999 ...I think that was over $1,000 not long ago, so maybe that has dropped? - but at $999 it's still ridiculously overpriced compared to what AMD have coming in a couple of weeks.

    Interesting. Amazon have just slightly raised their price for the i9-9900K to $493.89 (still shipped and sold by Amazon, not a third party seller). The i9-9900X is still at $999...

    Amazon "live pricing" hard at work ---> Amazon constantly change their prices

    Yeah usually their prices jump all over the place by a small percentage, although that $484 price was the same for at least a couple of months that I saw. Maybe they'll drop it after July 7th.. or maybe all retailers will ignore Intel's recommended price reductions lol.
     
     
     


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/24 15:30:03 (permalink)
    You can guarantee, price gougers will not be reducing their pricing.  

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/24 15:40:43 (permalink)
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    You can guarantee, price gougers will not be reducing their pricing.  

    LOL, no, not in this life. I'm only talking about ones sold direct from Amazon, not third parties.  ..or are you saying Amazon is a price gouger too :D
     
     


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/24 16:01:14 (permalink)
    hopefully that will help some folks get into a new processor 

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/06/24 23:06:49 (permalink)
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    hopefully that will help some folks get into a new processor 




    Exactly, if someone has a Z370 board with 8400, 8600k or even a 8700 if they could upgrade to a 9900k for around $350-375 that would be a decent upgrade, $400+ is going to be hard to justify.  I don't think 15% is going to be quite enough but it is a step in the right direction.
     
    According to AMD's slides the 9900k performance wise is between AMD's two 8 core chips. They are priced $329 and $399. I think the 9900k would still sell well at $375, even though it doesn't offer pcie-4.0 or the included box cooler, which AMD's is decent.
     
    The 9700k needs to be around $275

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/07/01 14:22:12 (permalink)
     
    Still no change in price for the i9-9900K or X.
     


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/07/01 21:16:40 (permalink)
    In Canada, the i9-9900K dropped from $749 to $649 at Newegg.ca.

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/07/02 13:40:17 (permalink)
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    Still no change in price for the i9-9900K or X.
     


    Meh. If the Ryzen 3000 series is anything like amd has stated Intel won't even be considered anymore.
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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/07/03 07:03:05 (permalink)
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    Still no change in price for the i9-9900K or X.
     


    Meh. If the Ryzen 3000 series is anything like amd has stated Intel won't even be considered anymore.




    Right. If new AMD processors are really as AMD advertise them, so good Intel is in bad situation and their statement about zero benefits from PCI-E 4.0 for gamers is not exactly correct.
    Gamers will like improvement of new SSD Gen 4.0. I believe very soon improvements of Wi-Fi will arrive as well, maybe even 4-5% improvement in graphic after few drivers and at the end Intel statement could be used for people who save money... Never mind, I don't need PCI-E 4.0 for now, but for people who want little more expensive platform Intel will look very bad no matter on discount. Intel is still not aware how people will react when SSD Benchmarks start to show during autumn and end of 2019. They will be earlier on market, but until then whole race between 10 brands who produce NVMe will start and no one will produce Gen 3.0 models any more and after people recognize difference in numbers 3DMark results between PCI-E 2.0/3.0/4.0 will not be important any more at all.
     
    If you google Intel PCI-E 4.0 you immediately see excuses and statements that gamers no benefits from PCI-E 4.0. No information when they plan to jump from past in reality.
    That's everything Intel can do at the moment because poor planing and decision to launch next platform on time no matter on anything, without just little delays. 
    Until then AMD will sell their processors with 12-16 cores 24 PCI-E Gen 4.0 lanes and 40 PCI-E lanes more on PCH Gen 4.0.
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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/07/03 08:00:32 (permalink)
    That is great that Intel is lowering their prices. A monopoly in the computer processors for as long as I can remember. This is great for being competitive with AMD. However, I would not switch. I chose AMD for better price, performance and features way back in 2009. I am looking forward to AMD Ryzen 3000 series! 

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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/07/03 11:17:38 (permalink)
    Intel had great generations and during DDR3 period AMD was not important only Intel.
    Now situation is terrible, Intel launch 2-3 models of processors only because problem with 10nm.
    They should abandon 1151 before 2 years. Never in history some Intel socket get so much revisions and from Z170 up to Z390 Intel sell us same thing.
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/07/06 17:02:30 (permalink)
     
    So tomorrow (7/7) is supposed to be Ryzen 3000 release day. Still no change in price on the i9-9900K ($484.99 at Amazon), although the 9900X is down a whopping $30 (now $969.99 at Amazon) which equates to a 3% discount lol.. I'm guessing that's just Amazon's usual price fluctuations. I wonder if tomorrow will see a "10-15% price cut" as stated by Intel. I'm predicting not.
     


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    Re: Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000 2019/07/06 18:34:41 (permalink)
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    According to these sources, prices of 9th generation Core processors could be cut by a minimum of 10 percent, and a maximum of 15 percent, varying by SKUs.
    There is a big difference between resellers/OEMs dropping prices and Intel changing the MSRP.  According to Intel's price list, last updated in May 2019, nothing has changed across their over 100 SKUs.  We have to wait for the next update to see the % decrease, if any.
     
    In my personal opinion, Intel doesn't need to drop prices since the majority of their sales are through OEMs, and they still all pay whatever for contracts as long as they pass those costs onto average folks as premium prebuilts because they don't build themselves.

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