https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/intel_reportedly_considers_cpu_price_cuts_to_defend_market_dominance/1
 
Intel is facing stiff competition within the CPU market, with AMD's new Zen 2 architecture delivering compelling performance numbers across the desktop, enterprise and notebook markets. Intel hasn't faced competition this intense in well over a decade, making the company's x86 dominance far from assured moving forward. 

DigiTimes (behind paywall) has reported that Intel plans to cut the prices of its processors in the second half of 2020, citing sources within several major PC manufacturers. These price cuts could be how Intel plans to combat AMD's next-generation Ryzen processors, as AMD is sure to release new processors this year. AMD's Lisa Su has already stated that the company plans to talk more about its Zen 3 series processors later this year, a promise which should have Intel worried. 

Intel's 2020 series of mainstream desktop processors are expected to be made up of Comet Lake series parts. These CPUs will contain up to 10 cores and utilise what's fundamentally the same underlying CPU architecture as Coffee Lake and Kaby Lake, albeit with higher core counts and clock speeds. This limits the competitiveness of Intel's 10th generation desktop products, as a lack of change on the process, which is expected to remain as 14nm, and architecture fronts will prevent Intel from making major single-threaded performance gains are significant leaps in power efficiency.     
   
As Intel enters the second half of 2020, the company may need to start offering its customers more value. If they cannot provide increased value on a technological level, with boosted CPU performance or power efficiency, the company will need to deliver it with decreased prices. This will cut into Intel's profit margins, and may also force AMD to reconsider its own pricing.  
 
Lower pricing will help spur demand, and furthermore it will allow consumers to get a lot more for their money. Strong competition has forced Intel to start offering better processors at lower prices, and price decreased from Intel may force AMD to become more aggressive as it prices its planned Zen 3 series products. Ultimately, these moves will get high-performance technology into the hands of more PC builders, and help fuel upgrade cycles for consumers and businesses alike. This should result in increased PC sales and help reduce the number of "PC is dead" headlines that you will see in the press. 
 
I thought 10nm would be available to Intel in the latter part of this year. Well if you read this article it doesn't appear that way. 

Told ya😼. Everyone wins. Ty AMD for the lower price competition.😼

Wow this is almost admitting they won’t have anything but 14nm chips this entire year? That’s insane! AMD is likely in my next refresh this is just getting silly.

cuts maybe in the second half of 2020
 
Intel needs to get their capacity back up or loose market share ... because AMD is happy to sell chips to those Mfg that cant get the Intel CPU

atfrico

gutcheck
Wow this is almost admitting they won’t have anything but 14nm chips this entire year? That’s insane! AMD is likely in my next refresh this is just getting silly.

I find it strange Intel is having problems with getting 7mm fab. It seems like the fab companies dont want.to deal with Intel at all. 🤔
My suspicion there is a rift between Intel and.the fab companies😳

 
they are not having a problem with their 7nm
only the 10nm - which is Multimask and not EUV
 
the problem is 7nm and 5nm equipment from ASML is not cheap and the smaller the shrink the more expensive and the larger equipment(and more equipment you need)...ie you have to build a larger FAB
there is also a lead time from ordering equipment and getting the fab running like 3 yrs
 
so by the time Intel realized they needed EUV - it was too lake for 10nm and with demand for EUV the lead time necessary is growing and getting more expensive
why? because it takes time to make crystals for EUV and smaller fab process requires more of them , hence takes more time to build and becomes more expensive
 
Intel took too long to decide to move to EUV - which is why they are in this bind
 
which is also why they dropped one 10nm fab to go back to 14nm and one to go to 7nm
also why the 10nm is delayed so much as well as limited production
 
which is also why we heard rumors of them dropping 10nm and going to 7nm
10nm is the dud really 
 
 
remember 7nm Intel is equal to 5nm TSMC

Intel reportedly considers CPU price cuts to defend market dominance

No matter how you spin it, if you are having to consider cutting prices due to competition, you are not dominant.

Cool GTX
& Intel has not Gone all Chiplets on us

You say it like chiplets are bad.

ty_ger07

Intel reportedly considers CPU price cuts to defend market dominance

No matter how you spin it, if you are having to consider cutting prices due to competition, you are not dominant.

Cool GTX
& Intel has not Gone all Chiplets on us

You say it like chiplets are bad.

No, just saying its harder & More expensive to make one Big Chip ... Intel might have to go a different route ... to cut costs

u won't have 2019 net income til march this year
 
that is not outdated
year 2020 income doesn't start til march this year - thats start of 1stQ financial
it goes according to Tax filings in march
 
What planet R U on?
 
Intel can bury them ->yes - they could buy them out ->yes -then they would be a monopoly and be broken up anyways
 
Ive been hard on Intel for last 2 yrs but i don't pick sides and i don't act like a fan boi about it
 
 
I suggest u take a read at semiaccurate on Intel shakeup
 
Intel maybe ready to sell assets like the DPG or IOTG to build more fabs
they have to 2x-4x the number of fabs they have to handle demand - that takes capital

again what planet R U on - anti-competition laws - monopoly law
 
they be seriously fined for it and then broken up
they have limits due to anti competitive laws - they can't drive out their only competition or buy them
 
 
we can't have one CPU company - I don't count PowerPC or ARM yet because market share is so small
China is not a contender yet and VIA is just getting back into game
 
 
We have had this issue for many years because USA does not want to use the laws to break up the BIG companies and foster real competition
we have oligoplies - which lead to price fixing agreements with fewer companies- notably ram
 
a single maker would force their hand
 
Quite frankly i don't mind China getting in the game - then you'll see cheap CPU's (if u can trust it's not spying on u)
but watch USA bring down trade actions
 
 

did i say Intel was doing great??? no!!!!
but they are still doing better than AMD and with price cuts may stay there
i have been chiming about intel being stuck on 14nm for years and lamblasting them on their 10nm ...marginal increase- lol I was not happy about it
thats what happens when you don't have competition -high prices and marginal improvements - no push come to shove
 
 
Rose colored glasses??? no 
 
We have high prices and price fixing due to monopolies/oligoplies
 
M$ has 90% of market share  Intel over 50%, Nvidia over 50% more like 70-80%
what we need to do is break them up to put them at 10-20% a piece and see what happens and never let them get that big again
 
what is it gonna be like if we only have 1 company? hell and pricy
 

Intel has almost 75% of the Global CPU Market
 
If AMD can manage to take 30% away from Intel ..... (Doubt they can) Intel would Still control ~ 52.5% of CPU market
 
 
Finance
Intel Upgraded by Jefferies Amid Changes in its Management Team and the Prospects of a Restructuring That Includes the Possibility of Going ‘Fabless’
 
(excerpt)
"Intel currently controls nearly three-quarters of the global CPU market. Moreover, as detailed by Intel’s CEO in an exclusive Wccftech interview, the company is also focusing on GPUs, FPGAs, AI, next-gen 5G technology, etc. rather than solely relying on its CPUs. It should be interesting to see, therefore, if this positive prognostication by Jefferies pans out for the chipmaker."

Hoggle
I am all for the decrease in price and really Intel and AMD are both great options. Anyone who does an Intel system or a AMD system would be happy and a lower price is great for everyone.

+1. I am curious what AMD will bring for Zen 3 and Intel's lack of showing off anything major at CES 2020 is not encouraging. 

Aren't we still in an Intel chip shortage???  Why would they need to dump product at a discount?

vegajf51

kevinc313
Aren't we still in an Intel chip shortage???  Why would they need to dump product at a discount?

Yes but the shortage isn’t due to high volume sales but manufacturing issues.

Law of supply and demand still applies.

ty_ger07

kevinc313

vegajf51

kevinc313
Aren't we still in an Intel chip shortage???  Why would they need to dump product at a discount?

Yes but the shortage isn’t due to high volume sales but manufacturing issues.

Law of supply and demand still applies.

Agreed. Demand is waning. Process of losing marketability still applies.

I agree if you agree AMD is the cause of it😼.