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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 10:15:50
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So Intel has a problem with 10nm manufacturing, has a problem with 14nm supply, so now they want to resurrect a 22nm CPU. How desperate is Intel right now?
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 14:32:15
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The have already moved some chipsets over to 22nm, its a sad but actually smart move until they can get 7nm going, 10nm is being scrapped, it will go on only for PR reasons, but its a failure and Intel has moved resources to 7nm.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 16:03:39
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 17:23:26
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Really this makes me wonder how long the AMD CPU's will be relevant. I mean if Intel is selling a CPU that is five years old and lets say that lasts another two years these AMD systems will have a very long lifespan since they are better then these Pentium's.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 17:28:05
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AMD is putting pressure to Developers and programmers. Thats all. Used the cores its there dont make excuses and get your butt up
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 17:36:18
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Screw G3420's, Intel better start working on making enough 10980XE's, I want to upgrade this year! :D
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 18:06:47
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Aw a loyal fan. Volunteer and join the assembly line so you can speed up the productions😸🤣🤣🤣
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 19:32:51
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This is depressing. Or, wait, is this hilarious? Concerning? Unbelievable? I don't even know.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 19:47:40
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This is depressing. Or, wait, is this hilarious? Concerning? Unbelievable? I don't even know.
hmm....i say all of the above, but i have 3 words that can describe the reason for this move by Intel A bominable M ediocre D ispirited 
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/06 21:17:07
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Well if it isn't the AMD fanboy shareholders club.  
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/07 00:12:37
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Screw G3420's, Intel better start working on making enough 10980XE's, I want to upgrade this year! :D
As I have mentioned previously both Intel and AMD have supply issues. AMD needs more chips from TSMC on 7nm and Intel has supply issues at both 10nm and 14nm.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/07 03:11:29
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My record of CPUs I have owned and used comes out to 2 Intels that I was very satisfied with, and 1 AMD Athlon that I was very dissatisfied with; although the ASUS motherboard may have been to blame. However I am ready to mock either company for humor irregardless of my past history with their products. But at this point when everything is equal I would choose Intel.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/07 08:07:17
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Aw a loyal fan. Volunteer and join the assembly line so you can speed up the productions😸🤣🤣🤣
That would be a lonely place considering assembly is fully automated...
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/07 23:56:02
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I suppose the real question everyone is eagerly trying to find out with the heightened competition with AMD, is Intel using solder or TIM for these powerhouse chips?
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 00:27:38
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I suppose the real question everyone is eagerly trying to find out with the heightened competition with AMD, is Intel using solder or TIM for these powerhouse chips?
That is a good question. I'm curious as well.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 01:49:40
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I'm sure I seen a vid on the new 10 series chips using solder
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 02:10:41
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I'm sure I seen a vid on the new 10 series chips using solder
As far as I am aware they are using solder on the newer HEDT CPUs.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 02:58:05
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Yeah i seen a couple of different articles that they are indeed being soldered. i ordered one of the 10980XE's about 10 days ago and it was saying approximate shipping times are 2 weeks.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 03:12:19
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Yeah i seen a couple of different articles that they are indeed being soldered. i ordered one of the 10980XE's about 10 days ago and it was saying approximate shipping times are 2 weeks.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 08:40:59
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You guys speak as if no one makes entry CPU's. On 14 nm, AMD also sells Athlon Pro 200GE processors with integrated VEGA graphics. I know, I bought one to flash a new B450 motherboard (to use the Ryzen R5 3600) for a system I built for a customer.
Regardless of the nm, if they sell, they'll profit.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 10:12:35
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I'm sure I seen a vid on the new 10 series chips using solder
The post is in regards to 22nm....I suppose its better to call it repeat than refresh. 10 series chips are def using solder.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 15:42:50
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I'm sure I seen a vid on the new 10 series chips using solder
The post is in regards to 22nm....I suppose its better to call it repeat than refresh. 10 series chips are def using solder.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 19:17:20
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What boggles my mind is that Haswell chips are DDR3. So that means whomever is buying the G3420 or any other other budget bin Haswell-era chips must also has a source to procure old DDR3 modules to pair with them.
Really glad I don't own Intel stock. Things are looking bad, but made all the worse because Intel has yet to talk about PCIe 4.0, DDR5, or chips fabbed <10nm. Intel would be talking them up or mentioning them on roadmaps if they planned to launch chips with those technologies within the next year.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/08 23:13:13
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What boggles my mind is that Haswell chips are DDR3. So that means whomever is buying the G3420 or any other other budget bin Haswell-era chips must also has a source to procure old DDR3 modules to pair with them.
Really glad I don't own Intel stock. Things are looking bad, but made all the worse because Intel has yet to talk about PCIe 4.0, DDR5, or chips fabbed <10nm. Intel would be talking them up or mentioning them on roadmaps if they planned to launch chips with those technologies within the next year.
Ya, even Comet Lake is launching with PCIe 3.0 next year. I think the only improvements we will see are IPC gains and probably higher memory bandwidth.
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/09 10:48:14
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its time to resuscitate those good old P4's too...
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Re: Intel Resuscitates 22nm Haswell Pentium Processor
2019/12/09 15:20:47
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its time to resuscitate those good old P4's too...
I think I still have one some where. lol
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