https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-9900t-benchmark-geekbench-4,40213.html
 
We originally covered Intel's work on the (more) energy-efficient version of their Core i9-9900 processor back in January. However, it seems that the company has improved the i9-9900T's performance before final release. Initial specifications for the processor were expected to deliver a 1.70 GHz base clock (down from 3.60 GHz of the original i9-9900K), with 1~2 core Turbo Boost frequency down to 3.80 GHz. However, the Geekbench benchmarks show a different story, one that's much more appealing to users: Intel managed to keep the 35 W TDP target, but base clocks stand at a much more interesting 2.1 GHz and much improved Boost clocks of 4.4 GHz.
 
Very good performance from a low power processor in my opinion
 

Vlada011
It's good because I don't need new computer now.
I would like to stay on Intel and I hope their feature and performance will catch AMD for max 12 months.
Except if AMD move forward again because now AMD is capable to create even bigger difference between them

Why would you hope to stay with any company? If someone does something better AND cheaper, why would you not take a rational step and associate with the superior firm?  The nonsensical comments on this forum are mind boggling, yet I'm the one people look at like a leper when I point them out.

NazcaC2
Reason in point: They are two different companies. Methods and practices of one are different than another. Intel just has the better quality and reliability. That's one of the few reasons why I decided against going AMD too, even though I was enthusiastic about Zen 2 at first.

Your AMD chipset needs a BIOS update to play Destiny 2? Funny. Finding the right drivers on AMD's site is horrendous. Drivers say they're installed but aren't is annoying. Intel and NVIDIA "just work."

I understand people look at value and benchmarks mostly, but I'd rather go with the two brands that I trust.

I expect forum members will go all postal on my response as they typically do, but some of us value reliability/quality control over performance.

All this talk about 14nm or 10nm vs 7nm. Some of us are still on 45nm, lol.

On topic: Nice to see the changes Intel is making to the i9-9900 variants for select users.

Oh not at all.  I completely agree with you.  I'm an Intel and Nvidia guy because historically speaking, I've had very reliable hardware and software from them while their competitors, not so much and many were complaining for 10+ years.  Don't get me wrong, I do wish the competitors the best because without them, well it won't be pleasant for anyone no matter who you prefer the most.

NazcaC2
Drivers say they're installed but aren't is annoying. Intel and NVIDIA "just work."

The reason it just works is due to market dominance. Meaning, support and optimization is default. It isn't technically fair, but developers prefer quicker returns on investment, which comes from tailoring software to a target market, and what else is everyone getting?

Prebuilt systems sold through OEMs like Lenovo and Dell dominate sales, while the DIY market is tiny-- in other words, most folks don't look at benchmarks. Ironically, they may not care about the specs, but most folks stick with OEMs they trust, i.e. Apple.

That's a different kind of loyalty, one that can become a major threat to both Intel and nVidia if the OEM they have contracts with takes on contracts with AMD.

NazcaC2n topic: Nice to see the changes Intel is making to the i9-9900 variants for select users.

It is a known fact that adjusting frequency adjusts power exponentially, because voltage needs to go with frequency. We overclock, but Intel does it in both directions to create new products out of the same die.

Intel could drop the base frequency down to 1GHz to make a 15W i9-9900U.

lehpron
The reason it just works is due to market dominance. Meaning, support and optimization is default.

Have you seen how many driver updates Nvidia regurgitates? The reason "it just works" is because they screw up so many things they have to constantly update. They are no different than AMD, nor is Intel. Research how many issues people have with updates for any system.
 
Speaking of which, Windows 10 is a deluge of problems with just about every update. Which OS do the majority of you utilize on your systems? NazcaC2 in particular??????????

NazcaC2
I say I value competition to drive down prices for the brands I buy. I don't really care what you buy, panz, just that people do even the playing field and drive down prices. Catch my drift?

Why all negative? Do you even read the change logs? The drivers also add support for new games, etc. I know why they update drivers, lol.

Guess. Windows 10. Why? Because it's the most up to date Windows OS. To say any other Windows wasn't as problematic is silly. I'm a tech remember, I've dealt with computer issues from a variety of OS' for years. Why would I go back into the dark ages with an inferior older Windows? Let alone another OS with fewer software support?!

Lots of question marks there. And, here we go again.

Oh, I catch your drift. I don't think you catch mine. If everyone endorsed your mentality there would be no competition as companies would be routinely driven to insolvency. When a particular company releases a great product but everyone buys the competitors equivalent simply because the value of THAT product was reduced, this particular company would never make money and competition would cease.
 
What's all negative?
 
Change logs? Never have I seen as many driver updates as I have for Nvidia, and this has nothing to do with change logs but with problem revision. These were updates to fix updates.
 
So quality and reliability are NOT important to you. You've shown hypocrisy plenty of times before and I expected nothing less than brand loyalty supported by destitute argumentation.

Yeah and considering that Intel at this stage has no real answer for AMD's ryzen I say its not too bad to favor AMD right now.
I mean get what you want to get but outside of the 9900K there isnt much going for intel when AMD's offerings are so good right now.
With AMD so close to intel for price to performance right now buying intel is a bit of a foolish gesture unless you want a laptop.
Things would be a lot different if intel priced matched AMD as that would give intel the edge but so far they seem more obsessed with 10nm then showing up to the dance with AMD,

NazcaC2For those of us who don't need the answer to AMD and prefer reliability, we're just going to keep buying blue.

Meh I mean its not like Intel has made some crap though, Remember the Pentium D?
I know i do

panzlock

lehpron
The reason it just works is due to market dominance. Meaning, support and optimization is default.

Have you seen how many driver updates Nvidia regurgitates?

Only in the last 13 years; but context: nVidia produces very few driver changes for their Quadro line versus GeForce, why?  Because there aren't that many new software and hardware combinations in the professional landscape requiring constant optimization versus consumer.   The only way these companies can reduce the need to update drivers with every software change is to reduce hardware compatibility, i.e. don't make unified drivers anymore or trade for an embedded gaming system with one configuration (a.k.a console). 


It's ignorant to see regular driver updates as screw ups, this is the nature of the having too many configurations available (we know from reviews that only certain CPU/GPU combinations produce the best results in a game, drivers aren't going to make up the difference in a poor combination).  But if we get rid of all those combinations, then the problem is gone.  How many driver updates does AMD make for Microsoft's Xbox One X?  Only one, the first, the rest are on Microsoft and the devs (they all get dev kits to optimize their games, there is no excuse).

Besides, it isn't like we have to update for every nVidia driver, usually associated with new games; if one doesn't get into new stuff often, don't update.  Don't fix what ain't broke, right NazcaC2?

I actually bought into Pentium D 920, via a Gateway S5200s microBTX system, three months before Core 2 debuted, and even after, I didn't understand how a lower frequency managed to be faster than my system.  Totally ignorant to IPC and architecture, up until then, I thought CPUs were only getting faster by frequency over the decades.

Speaking of Pentium D, I think I have one behind me somewhere or is it a early P4.  Can't see the writing since it's gunked up with dried out paste from 15+ years ago iirc.

lehpron
Besides, it isn't like we have to update for every nVidia driver, usually associated with new games; if one doesn't get into new stuff often, don't update.  Don't fix what ain't broke, right NazcaC2?

The problem with this mindset is that there isnt too much competition in the computing space for desktops its either AMD or intel and if you have not noticed Intel has not lowered their prices in ages.
You know why?
Because people buy their stuff without question, allowing over inflated prices.
Its even worse for the GPU market where nvidia can do whatever they want.

panzlock
The problem with what I said is that it falls on deaf ears (blind eyes, in this case) because this is exactly what people do. I have had inane arguments with countless individuals about this issue, including AMD devotees.
 
You are talking about the quality of a product. Vulnerabilities are a factor.
 
Pricing in Canada is fine. Pricing in Europe is a disaster.
 
I have seen very little evidence of AMD's poor reliability aside from teething issues with Ryzen/RAM implementation on a new architecture. You brought up the fact that AMD had to release a chipset driver for Destiny 2, yet vulnerabilities don't concern you. I don't mean to sound rude but you need to consider what you say before you say it. This isn't elementary school.
 
Everyone chooses what they want. Again, that's the problem I'm pointing out. If you have two equally matched products in every respect, I understand. But if your choices are two equally matched products with extensive pricing differences and you choose the product with the higher price tag, you're sending a clear message.
 

Agreed, fanboyism in any sense is not good for you.
Again i know I probably come off as a AMD fanboy but thats far from the truth.
I have had both intel and AMD processors and while lately i have been on the AMD bandwagon its only because I see the value of their processors.
Again i wish intel would lower prices but they seem to be focused on beating the 14nm process with a stick and their 10nm efforts have not impressed me much at all.
Its very hard for me to recommend intel at this point in time but only because Intels kind of priced themselves into a corner and offer little over AMD.
I do hope Intel gets the bloody message though, they are starting to loose favor with PC gamers who are trying to save pennies for a better GPU

I said I've had my negative experiences with AMD. Argue all you want with your verbose speech. You're not going to convince me otherwise, and sure call me a fanboy all you want, lol. Different people tend to stick with what they trust.

Panz, you didn't even read or comprehend what I said. I said BIOS update, not chipset driver. Wow! Speaking about elementary 😂

NazcaC2
I said I've had my negative experiences with AMD. Argue all you want with your verbose speech. You're not going to convince me otherwise, and sure call me a fanboy all you want, lol. Different people tend to stick with what they trust.

Still with modern GPU prices I really dont blame anyone for selecting AMD over intel, there is a reason why AMD is booming right now in the custom PC market and thats price to performance.
I do see that there is a huge market for those who like to have high powered GPU's paired with AMD ryzens, PCpartpikcer is being choked by AMD builds right now because of Intel not offering as much for the price point.
With the cost of nvidia's RTX line yeah AMD seems to be a good compromise in the wake of intels lack of good lower end processors.