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Intel 9900 series reviews out
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 09:08:27
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Impressive, just like RTX cards, but I'm scratching my head at Intel and Nvidia prices.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 09:12:12
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Thanks for all the Video links kram36
Can you summarize the information in a couple of lines ?
Give your impression: OK, cost more than AMD (no surprise there) (Intel going for max profit, no surprise on launch) is performance up ?
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 09:14:40
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 09:15:06
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It's what you would expect. Fast, but looses in the value proposition from AMD. It's the fastest gaming processor available (9900K) and all chips hit 5.2GHZ on all cores....
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 09:26:11
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Thanks for all the Video links kram36
Can you summarize the information in a couple of lines ?
Give your impression: OK, cost more than AMD (no surprise there) (Intel going for max profit, no surprise on launch) is performance up ?
Sure, 9900K beats the 2700X from 14% to 20% at stock speeds. 2700X is cheaper then the 9900K by around 43%. If you want the best, it's going to cost you a pretty penny.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 09:49:57
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Nearly all of the video reviews really sock it to Intel for CPU pricing.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 10:03:50
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Still Nice to see the New i9 less than 1/2 of previous +$1000 i9 CPUs --> even if this one has less cores ~ 33% to 40% less per Core
-- New i9 9900K eight-Core retail - $530 - per-core = $66.25 ---> Not @ Micro Center (yet) If it is actually $479 MSRP -- per-core = $59.88
-- i9-7960X Sixteen-Core retail - $1,500 - per-core = $93.75 ($1300 @ Micro Center)
-- i9-7980XE Eighteen-Core retail - $1,880 - per-core = $104.44 ($1700 @ Micro Center)
Because MHz is still King & Not Core count for consumer software & games ----> I think it could represents a good value to some people
Sure it would be nice if it was cheaper
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 10:18:19
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Cool GTX
Still Nice to see the New i9 less than 1/2 of previous +$1000 i9 CPUs --> even if this one has less cores ~ 33% to 40% less per Core
-- New i9 9900K eight-Core retail - $530 - per-core = $66.25 ---> Not @ Micro Center (yet) If it is actually $479 MSRP -- per-core = $59.88
-- i9-7960X Sixteen-Core retail - $1,500 - per-core = $93.75 ($1300 @ Micro Center)
-- i9-7980XE Eighteen-Core retail - $1,880 - per-core = $104.44 ($1700 @ Micro Center)
Because MHz is still King & Not Core count for consumer software & games ----> I think it could represents a good value to some people
Sure it would be nice if it was cheaper
As far as cost is concerned you can buy an AMD 2700X CPU and motherboard for the price of the i9 9900K.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 10:28:02
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I’m in the fence. I figure I could sell my 8086k and this would cost a couple hundred bucks. Not sure I’d see a difference at all though.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 10:40:13
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The 16 PCIe lanes still bugs me. Not worth it imho.
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Intel 9900K Reviews
2018/10/19 10:40:19
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Cool GTX
Still Nice to see the New i9 less than 1/2 of previous +$1000 i9 CPUs --> even if this one has less cores ~ 33% to 40% less per Core
-- New i9 9900K eight-Core retail - $530 - per-core = $66.25 ---> Not @ Micro Center (yet) If it is actually $479 MSRP -- per-core = $59.88
-- i9-7960X Sixteen-Core retail - $1,500 - per-core = $93.75 ($1300 @ Micro Center)
-- i9-7980XE Eighteen-Core retail - $1,880 - per-core = $104.44 ($1700 @ Micro Center)
Because MHz is still King & Not Core count for consumer software & games ----> I think it could represents a good value to some people
Sure it would be nice if it was cheaper
As far as cost is concerned you can buy an AMD 2700X CPU and motherboard for the price of the i9 9900K.
You can buy an 8700K and motherboard for the cost of a 9900K, but you're still not getting the performance of the 9900K with either option. Some will still spend the extra to get the better performing product.
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Re: Intel 9900K Reviews
2018/10/19 12:15:29
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Re: Intel 9900K Reviews
2018/10/19 15:27:14
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So if I get this will I need a new windows key?
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Re: Intel 9900K Reviews
2018/10/19 15:40:06
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So if I get this will I need a new windows key?
Depends, if you change out the motherboard, you may have to reactivate Windows. If you just change out the cpu, it shouldn't be an issue. If you have a retail key reactivation should be no issue, even the non retail key usually allows one or two reactivations without an issue.
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Re: Intel 9900K Reviews
2018/10/19 15:52:34
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That's one fine cpu :)
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Re: Intel 9900K Reviews
2018/10/19 15:55:54
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So if I get this will I need a new windows key?
I changed my motherboard and cpu recently due to my old cpu dying and i just had to re enter my win10 code. I didn't have to format or reinstall windows it just booted up like everything was normal, for my old setup I had a 6900k cpu. I did buy a pro copy of windows 10 a few years ago instead of doing a free upgrade back when it was offered though.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 16:08:04
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Cool GTX
Still Nice to see the New i9 less than 1/2 of previous +$1000 i9 CPUs --> even if this one has less cores ~ 33% to 40% less per Core
-- New i9 9900K eight-Core retail - $530 - per-core = $66.25 ---> Not @ Micro Center (yet) If it is actually $479 MSRP -- per-core = $59.88
-- i9-7960X Sixteen-Core retail - $1,500 - per-core = $93.75 ($1300 @ Micro Center)
-- i9-7980XE Eighteen-Core retail - $1,880 - per-core = $104.44 ($1700 @ Micro Center)
Because MHz is still King & Not Core count for consumer software & games ----> I think it could represents a good value to some people
Sure it would be nice if it was cheaper
As far as cost is concerned you can buy an AMD 2700X CPU and motherboard for the price of the i9 9900K.
I was thinking the same. I rather upgrade from my 4970k and call it a day, but still waiting on the price drop of memory
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Re: Intel 9900K Reviews
2018/10/19 16:20:09
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So if I get this will I need a new windows key?
Depends, if you change out the motherboard, you may have to reactivate Windows. If you just change out the cpu, it shouldn't be an issue. If you have a retail key reactivation should be no issue, even the non retail key usually allows one or two reactivations without an issue.
If currently Win 10 Retail = No, you can reactivate If currently Win 10 OEM = Yes, by the terms of MS, you'll need to buy again ...... You can try an ask MS .... they do not have to reactivate for OEM
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 16:23:08
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Cool GTX
Still Nice to see the New i9 less than 1/2 of previous +$1000 i9 CPUs --> even if this one has less cores ~ 33% to 40% less per Core
-- New i9 9900K eight-Core retail - $530 - per-core = $66.25 ---> Not @ Micro Center (yet) If it is actually $479 MSRP -- per-core = $59.88
-- i9-7960X Sixteen-Core retail - $1,500 - per-core = $93.75 ($1300 @ Micro Center)
-- i9-7980XE Eighteen-Core retail - $1,880 - per-core = $104.44 ($1700 @ Micro Center)
Because MHz is still King & Not Core count for consumer software & games ----> I think it could represents a good value to some people
Sure it would be nice if it was cheaper
As far as cost is concerned you can buy an AMD 2700X CPU and motherboard for the price of the i9 9900K.
I was thinking the same. I rather upgrade from my 4970k and call it a day, but still waiting on the price drop of memory
Newegg has a Shell Shocker deal for the rest of the day on some G.Skill Flare X 16GB memory made for AMD processors for $120 shipped. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232519
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 16:27:24
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Cool GTX
Still Nice to see the New i9 less than 1/2 of previous +$1000 i9 CPUs --> even if this one has less cores ~ 33% to 40% less per Core
-- New i9 9900K eight-Core retail - $530 - per-core = $66.25 ---> Not @ Micro Center (yet) If it is actually $479 MSRP -- per-core = $59.88
-- i9-7960X Sixteen-Core retail - $1,500 - per-core = $93.75 ($1300 @ Micro Center)
-- i9-7980XE Eighteen-Core retail - $1,880 - per-core = $104.44 ($1700 @ Micro Center)
Because MHz is still King & Not Core count for consumer software & games ----> I think it could represents a good value to some people
Sure it would be nice if it was cheaper
As far as cost is concerned you can buy an AMD 2700X CPU and motherboard for the price of the i9 9900K.
I was thinking the same. I rather upgrade from my 4970k and call it a day, but still waiting on the price drop of memory
Newegg has a Shell Shocker deal for the rest of the day on some G.Skill Flare X 16GB memory made for AMD processors for $120 shipped.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232519
not bad, but its not 3400hzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz  As per the review....it doesnt make sense to buy a CPU for $500 if it performs almost identical to the Ryzen half its value on 2160p resolution
post edited by atfrico - 2018/10/19 16:31:58
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 16:33:04
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Cool GTX
Still Nice to see the New i9 less than 1/2 of previous +$1000 i9 CPUs --> even if this one has less cores ~ 33% to 40% less per Core
-- New i9 9900K eight-Core retail - $530 - per-core = $66.25 ---> Not @ Micro Center (yet) If it is actually $479 MSRP -- per-core = $59.88
-- i9-7960X Sixteen-Core retail - $1,500 - per-core = $93.75 ($1300 @ Micro Center)
-- i9-7980XE Eighteen-Core retail - $1,880 - per-core = $104.44 ($1700 @ Micro Center)
Because MHz is still King & Not Core count for consumer software & games ----> I think it could represents a good value to some people
Sure it would be nice if it was cheaper
As far as cost is concerned you can buy an AMD 2700X CPU and motherboard for the price of the i9 9900K.
I was thinking the same. I rather upgrade from my 4970k and call it a day, but still waiting on the price drop of memory
Newegg has a Shell Shocker deal for the rest of the day on some G.Skill Flare X 16GB memory made for AMD processors for $120 shipped.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232519
not bad, but its not 3400hzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
As per the review....it doesnt make sense to buy a CPU for $500 if it performs almost identical to the Ryzen half its value on 2160p resolution
Pretty sure as for G.Skill Flare X memory, the top speed is 3200MHzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. If all you do is game at 2160p and you have a gpu strong enough to push that resolution, then 2700X would be the cpu for you. However you may need to replace the 2700X long before the 9900K for games that come out of that take advantage of the processor's full potential.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 21:26:41
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Cool GTX
Still Nice to see the New i9 less than 1/2 of previous +$1000 i9 CPUs --> even if this one has less cores ~ 33% to 40% less per Core
-- New i9 9900K eight-Core retail - $530 - per-core = $66.25 ---> Not @ Micro Center (yet) If it is actually $479 MSRP -- per-core = $59.88
-- i9-7960X Sixteen-Core retail - $1,500 - per-core = $93.75 ($1300 @ Micro Center)
-- i9-7980XE Eighteen-Core retail - $1,880 - per-core = $104.44 ($1700 @ Micro Center)
Because MHz is still King & Not Core count for consumer software & games ----> I think it could represents a good value to some people
Sure it would be nice if it was cheaper
Well that's because this CPU is actually an i7, NOT an i9. Intel decided to segment the market in such a way that the i9's are now the only CPU's with hyperthreading, thereby making the i7's now i5's. They had to do something to protect their failed x299 platform, and this was it. Pretty (insert random curse) stupid.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/19 21:38:19
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If all you do is game at 2160p and you have a gpu strong enough to push that resolution, then 2700X would be the cpu for you. However you may need to replace the 2700X long before the 9900K for games that come out of that take advantage of the processor's full potential.
And the nice thing about that, is you will be able to do just that. Replace only the 2700x. You won't be forced to buy a new board and chip, like you would with the Intel platform, IF you need to replace it. But let's face it, at 4k, the video card is the deciding factor, and has been for the few generations. I mean even the 1700 scores the same as the 2700x in 4k. Even if we go back to Skylake, which is now 3 generations behind, it scores within a margin of error of the 2700x in 4k, albeit, lower than the 2700x.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/20 06:22:08
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If all you do is game at 2160p and you have a gpu strong enough to push that resolution, then 2700X would be the cpu for you. However you may need to replace the 2700X long before the 9900K for games that come out of that take advantage of the processor's full potential.
And the nice thing about that, is you will be able to do just that. Replace only the 2700x. You won't be forced to buy a new board and chip, like you would with the Intel platform, IF you need to replace it. But let's face it, at 4k, the video card is the deciding factor, and has been for the few generations. I mean even the 1700 scores the same as the 2700x in 4k. Even if we go back to Skylake, which is now 3 generations behind, it scores within a margin of error of the 2700x in 4k, albeit, lower than the 2700x.
You will get 5 years out of the 9900K easily and never have to spend any extra money replacing the cpu By then we will be on DDR5 memory and when a person decides to upgrade a new motherboard will be needed with AMD or Intel.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/20 08:59:27
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The 16 PCIe lanes still bugs me. Not worth it imho.
This.
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/20 09:32:43
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can't see the point to upgrade from my 8086k
Nice CPU tho..
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/20 09:54:19
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Yea I’ve decided no go for now anyway. I mean why? Doom is running at 200fps. What... I need 220 FPS? Which wouldn’t happen anyway....
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Re: Intel 9900 series reviews out
2018/10/20 11:36:50
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If all you do is game at 2160p and you have a gpu strong enough to push that resolution, then 2700X would be the cpu for you. However you may need to replace the 2700X long before the 9900K for games that come out of that take advantage of the processor's full potential.
And the nice thing about that, is you will be able to do just that. Replace only the 2700x. You won't be forced to buy a new board and chip, like you would with the Intel platform, IF you need to replace it. But let's face it, at 4k, the video card is the deciding factor, and has been for the few generations. I mean even the 1700 scores the same as the 2700x in 4k. Even if we go back to Skylake, which is now 3 generations behind, it scores within a margin of error of the 2700x in 4k, albeit, lower than the 2700x.
You will get 5 years out of the 9900K easily and never have to spend any extra money replacing the cpu By then we will be on DDR5 memory and when a person decides to upgrade a new motherboard will be needed with AMD or Intel.
I could not have said that better myself. Everyone is so concerned with motherboards and chipsets, but are you really going to upgrade anytime soon if you do purchase the 9900k? I got 7 years out of my 2500k...
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