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2019/12/08 22:18:09 (permalink)
Hey, guys, I'm hoping someone could help me out here. I recently upgraded to an EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Ultra Gaming card from a 1080 and was hoping to get a crazy fps boost but my frames are around 75-90 fps in modern warfare at maxed-out settings running 1440p. On my 1080 I was getting about 60-70 fps but I assumed I would get to at least the monitors 144hz rate with the new card. I've tried all these oc settings for all my parts but it hasn't really had an effect on the fps that's consistent. My gpu never goes above 70c and my cpu doesnt go above 60c so i dont think it would be throttling from the heat. heres a list of my parts:
 
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evga 650w gold rating psu
2* samsung 500gb ssd
1* hdd 2tb
 
let me know if there's any test you guys would like me to take or questions about my pc. I'm just trying to get the highest fps without sacrificing too much quality in games. I attached an image of my hwinfo results

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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/08 23:35:13 (permalink)
    Are those FPS with Ray Tracing enabled?  You might want to check and disabled it to see if that helps increase it otherwise, this is about right since my 2080 Ti gets around 90 FPS on ultra settings + RT enabled on 1440p 120hz.

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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 06:18:29 (permalink)
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    Hey, guys, I'm hoping someone could help me out here. I recently upgraded to an EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Ultra Gaming card from a 1080 and was hoping to get a crazy fps boost but my frames are around 75-90 fps in modern warfare at maxed-out settings running 1440p. On my 1080 I was getting about 60-70 fps but I assumed I would get to at least the monitors 144hz rate with the new card. I've tried all these oc settings for all my parts but it hasn't really had an effect on the fps that's consistent. My gpu never goes above 70c and my cpu doesnt go above 60c so i dont think it would be throttling from the heat. heres a list of my parts:
     
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    EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Ultra
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    1* hdd 2tb
     
    let me know if there's any test you guys would like me to take or questions about my pc. I'm just trying to get the highest fps without sacrificing too much quality in games. I attached an image of my hwinfo results




    1440p144 is rather demanding and most cards short of an overclocked 2080 Ti won't really be able to maintain it in new games at straight ultra settings.  I'd make sure your fan/case setup is optimal and your GPU fans are fast enough to keep the card at about 65C.  Get the GPU at max power and dial in the core/mem overclocks, then run some 3DMark tests.  If you can get  12,500-13,000 gpu score or higher in normal Timespy your card is running well. 
     
    Otherwise look into to setting guides for MW, there may be one or two settings that REALLY kneecap the FPS with no real benefit.  I run 4k60 with a hybrid 2080Ti and have to cut some settings on some games in order to stay above 60fps.
     
    Also make sure there's no gpu overscaling going on in the game or nvidia control panel, where it is rendering the game at a higher res.
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/12/09 06:41:48
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 07:38:01 (permalink)
    Ya ive tried with ray tracing  on and off but its only like a 5fps difference
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 07:41:56 (permalink)
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    Hey, guys, I'm hoping someone could help me out here. I recently upgraded to an EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Ultra Gaming card from a 1080 and was hoping to get a crazy fps boost but my frames are around 75-90 fps in modern warfare at maxed-out settings running 1440p. On my 1080 I was getting about 60-70 fps but I assumed I would get to at least the monitors 144hz rate with the new card. I've tried all these oc settings for all my parts but it hasn't really had an effect on the fps that's consistent. My gpu never goes above 70c and my cpu doesnt go above 60c so i dont think it would be throttling from the heat. heres a list of my parts:
     
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    EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Ultra
    g skill 16gb (3200mhz)
    evga 650w gold rating psu
    2* samsung 500gb ssd
    1* hdd 2tb
     
    let me know if there's any test you guys would like me to take or questions about my pc. I'm just trying to get the highest fps without sacrificing too much quality in games. I attached an image of my hwinfo results




    1440p144 is rather demanding and most cards short of an overclocked 2080 Ti won't really be able to maintain it in new games at straight ultra settings.  I'd make sure your fan/case setup is optimal and your GPU fans are fast enough to keep the card at about 65C.  Get the GPU at max power and dial in the core/mem overclocks, then run some 3DMark tests.  If you can get  12,500-13,000 gpu score or higher in normal Timespy your card is running well. 
     
    Otherwise look into to setting guides for MW, there may be one or two settings that REALLY kneecap the FPS with no real benefit.  I run 4k60 with a hybrid 2080Ti and have to cut some settings on some games in order to stay above 60fps.
     
    Also make sure there's no gpu overscaling going on in the game or nvidia control panel, where it is rendering the game at a higher res.


    hmm ill look into the guides and control panel. Someone told me to try using DDU to get rid of the old 1080 drives so that might work. Ill keep you guys updated thanks 
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 07:58:48 (permalink)
    I should also mention with my old 1080 i was getting 60-70 running 4k not 1080p, that's why I was expecting a big boost
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 08:38:14 (permalink)
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    I should also mention with my old 1080 i was getting 60-70 running 4k not 1080p, that's why I was expecting a big boost




    There's a very large difference between 4K (3840x2160) vs. 2K (2560x1440).
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 09:18:41 (permalink)
    I would suggest running the benchmark 3DMark Time Spy. Also, the Tomb Raider demo trial you can download on Steam is free to run, if you can get that one too, it would be easier to compare your results.
     
    As for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare... while I love playing that game, it's not optimized and it's highly dependent on up to date drivers. Are you running NVIDIA's 441.41 drivers? This isn't really the best game to base your computers performance off of.

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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 10:12:27 (permalink)
    Use this guide.  I did and can get  120 easily in COD:Modern Warfare 2019 
     
    https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/guides/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-pc-graphics-and-performance-guide/
     
     
    Settings Wrap-Up
    Normally, we'd suggest a slew of settings to tweak so you can eke out some additional performance, but in the case of Modern Warfare everything's been streamlined to ensure that the default settings run well on the widest array of systems possible. That leaves us with only Screen Space Reflections to switch to Normal, and Depth of Field to Off in multiplayer.

    Instead, the biggest gains will be found scaling your resolution. For instance, 80-90% at 3840x2160 boosts performance by double digits, with only a minimal reduction in clarity (which you could counteract by using GeForce Experience's Alt+F3 Sharpening filter).

    Enthusiasts will perhaps be disappointed by the lack of Ultra future-proofed settings, but you can't argue the game looks great, runs fast, and will deliver a great visual experience to tons of PC gamers.

     
     
    ...and keep RAY TRACING OFF
     
    I have the S.S.R. to normal , DOF off , Ray Trace off   &  all BLUR options off
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 10:13:07 (permalink)
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    I would suggest running the benchmark 3DMark Time Spy. Also, the Tomb Raider demo trial you can download on Steam is free to run, if you can get that one too, it would be easier to compare your results.
     
    As for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare... while I love playing that game, it's not optimized and it's highly dependent on up to date drivers. Are you running NVIDIA's 441.41 ? This isn't really the best game to base your computers performance off of.


    hmm im not home but ill try everything suggested and run 3dmark and see what score i get. I know before i was getting in the 11000s range i believe. 
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 10:14:13 (permalink)
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    Use this guide.  I did and can get  120 easily in COD:Modern Warfare 2019 
     

     
     
    Settings Wrap-Up
    Normally, we'd suggest a slew of settings to tweak so you can eke out some additional performance, but in the case of Modern Warfare everything's been streamlined to ensure that the default settings run well on the widest array of systems possible. That leaves us with only Screen Space Reflections to switch to Normal, and Depth of Field to Off in multiplayer.

    Instead, the biggest gains will be found scaling your resolution. For instance, 80-90% at 3840x2160 boosts performance by double digits, with only a minimal reduction in clarity (which you could counteract by using GeForce Experience's Alt+F3 Sharpening filter).

    Enthusiasts will perhaps be disappointed by the lack of Ultra future-proofed settings, but you can't argue the game looks great, runs fast, and will deliver a great visual experience to tons of PC gamers.



    thank you ill take a look at that
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 11:16:21 (permalink)
    this is my score on 3dmark 
     
     
     
    3dmark.com/3dm/41771591?
     
     
    is this a standard score for my setup?
    post edited by edzilla13 - 2019/12/09 11:19:50
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 11:22:14 (permalink)
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    Use this guide.  I did and can get  120 easily in COD:Modern Warfare 2019 
     
     
     
     
    Settings Wrap-Up
    Normally, we'd suggest a slew of settings to tweak so you can eke out some additional performance, but in the case of Modern Warfare everything's been streamlined to ensure that the default settings run well on the widest array of systems possible. That leaves us with only Screen Space Reflections to switch to Normal, and Depth of Field to Off in multiplayer.

    Instead, the biggest gains will be found scaling your resolution. For instance, 80-90% at 3840x2160 boosts performance by double digits, with only a minimal reduction in clarity (which you could counteract by using GeForce Experience's Alt+F3 Sharpening filter).

    Enthusiasts will perhaps be disappointed by the lack of Ultra future-proofed settings, but you can't argue the game looks great, runs fast, and will deliver a great visual experience to tons of PC gamers.



    thank you ill take a look at that




    The biggest MW COD fps killer appears to be under Graphic / Render Resolution. Since you are running a 1440 display make sure this setting is set to 1440 as well (last number). Adjusting to a higher rendering above your 1440 display will not only reduce fps considerably but also distort the game graphics.
     
    Also you need to OC your card as well as far as it will OC. MW seems somewhat demanding on the video card.
     
    Adjusting the Rendering Resolution from 4K to 2K improved my fps from 50's tp 90's with my monitor refresh rate at 144, 1440 (2k) and Render Resolution at 1440 as well. Blur off and all other setting set to max.
     
    I just cant understand why the darn movie at start up keeps playing when I have that option disabled.  

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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 11:39:46 (permalink)
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    this is my score on 3dmark 
     
     
     
    3dmark.com/3dm/41771591?
     
     
    is this a standard score for my setup?




    Your CPU score is super low.
     
    This is an old run from back when I had an i7 8700K at stock speeds and a GTX 1080:
    https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3908673

    I would suggest making sure you have the latest BIOS installed on your motherboard and make sure your chipset drivers are installed.

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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 12:08:06 (permalink)
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    this is my score on 3dmark 
     
     
     
    3dmark.com/3dm/41771591?
     
     
    is this a standard score for my setup?




    Your CPU score is super low.
     
    This is an old run from back when I had an i7 8700K at stock speeds and a GTX 1080:


    I would suggest making sure you have the latest BIOS installed on your motherboard and make sure your chipset drivers are installed.


    hmm i think there is a newer bios but last time i tried to update bios i almost bricked my pc. I dont even remember how i fixed it. I ended up flashing a bios thats below the new one. Im pretty sure my chipset drivers are good. 
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 12:19:08 (permalink)
    My CPU (990X) score is 4810 and I'm getting 90 fps easily with max MW settings with monitor at 144hz, 2K.
     
    I think a game setting is the problem. Or perhaps nVidia Control Panel GPU setting is set to auto or not the video card.
    post edited by dc8flyer - 2019/12/09 12:24:27

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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 12:41:18 (permalink)
    I'll take a look but if it was on auto it should use the bou and not the on board graphics. Plus I doubt I'd be getting those frames using on board graphics. My in game settings are semi maxed out and the render is native to screen, so I dont know.
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 12:58:38 (permalink)
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    this is my score on 3dmark 
     
     
     
    3dmark.com/3dm/41771591?
     
     
    is this a standard score for my setup?




    You can do better with your GPU score too, that's about what you would get from the card at stock settings at normal/warm temps.  Your reported OC of 1965mhz in timespy means you're either too warm to get a high clock with your OC settings, or the card is running on stock settings.  1,938 mhz memory bus is stock memory clock (15.5k).
    post edited by kevinc313 - 2019/12/09 13:01:25
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 13:12:42 (permalink)
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    I'll take a look but if it was on auto it should use the bou and not the on board graphics. Plus I doubt I'd be getting those frames using on board graphics. My in game settings are semi maxed out and the render is native to screen, so I dont know.

    Ive gotten better results when set to video card, not auto. And as I mentioned earlier, check your OCing for the card.r

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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 13:54:50 (permalink)
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    I'll take a look but if it was on auto it should use the bou and not the on board graphics. Plus I doubt I'd be getting those frames using on board graphics. My in game settings are semi maxed out and the render is native to screen, so I dont know.

    Ive gotten better results when set to video card, not auto. And as I mentioned earlier, check your OCing for the card.r

    Hmm I'll switch it then and see how it goes.
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 13:56:43 (permalink)
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    this is my score on 3dmark 
     
     
     
    3dmark.com/3dm/41771591?
     
     
    is this a standard score for my setup?




    You can do better with your GPU score too, that's about what you would get from the card at stock settings at normal/warm temps.  Your reported OC of 1965mhz in timespy means you're either too warm to get a high clock with your OC settings, or the card is running on stock settings.  1,938 mhz memory bus is stock memory clock (15.5k).

    Yes that score was at stock settings. Earlier I oc to a stable clock and managed to get my score up by a 1000. I put +90 on core and +900 on memory and the temps are a little higher to about 74c
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 14:23:49 (permalink)
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    hmm ill look into the guides and control panel. Someone told me to try using DDU to get rid of the old 1080 drives so that might work. Ill keep you guys updated thanks 




    One of the first things you do when purchasing a new GPU is updating the drivers because they usually will add some optimization for said GPU.  This also includes game titles that come down the pipe.  This has to be DDU'd and updated to the newest Nvidia Driver.

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    hmm ill look into the guides and control panel. Someone told me to try using DDU to get rid of the old 1080 drives so that might work. Ill keep you guys updated thanks 




    One of the first things you do when purchasing a new GPU is updating the drivers because they usually will add some optimization for said GPU.  This also includes game titles that come down the pipe.  This has to be DDU'd and updated to the newest Nvidia Driver.

    I went ahead and ran the ddu and installed fresh drivers but noticed no improvement
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    hmm ill look into the guides and control panel. Someone told me to try using DDU to get rid of the old 1080 drives so that might work. Ill keep you guys updated thanks 




    One of the first things you do when purchasing a new GPU is updating the drivers because they usually will add some optimization for said GPU.  This also includes game titles that come down the pipe.  This has to be DDU'd and updated to the newest Nvidia Driver.

    I went ahead and ran the ddu and installed fresh drivers but noticed no improvement



    At the very least, I would go into your BIOS and load optimized defaults. Let the PC restart and load back into the Windows login screen, restart the PC, go into the BIOS and enable your XMP profile, save and load back into Windows and see if there is a difference.

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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 15:06:51 (permalink)
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    hmm ill look into the guides and control panel. Someone told me to try using DDU to get rid of the old 1080 drives so that might work. Ill keep you guys updated thanks 




    One of the first things you do when purchasing a new GPU is updating the drivers because they usually will add some optimization for said GPU.  This also includes game titles that come down the pipe.  This has to be DDU'd and updated to the newest Nvidia Driver.

    I went ahead and ran the ddu and installed fresh drivers but noticed no improvement



    At the very least, I would go into your BIOS and load optimized defaults. Let the PC restart and load back into the Windows login screen, restart the PC, go into the BIOS and enable your XMP profile, save and load back into Windows and see if there is a difference.

    Well I'm running an older bios. I'm currently at f7 while the new bios is 15an so ik a little behind, I'm just worried about updating cause I almost bricked my pc last time I did it
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 17:18:10 (permalink)
    Welp guys I updated the bios to the newest version and now my pc wont boot lol. Says inaccessible boot drive
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 17:54:56 (permalink)
    ya i think im going to have to turn some of my settings down if i want the frames I have in mind. Silly me to think i can run everything on max with ray tracing and get 144fps on 2k with this card. I almost broke my pc updating the bios earlier but i fixed it. Now im on the latest bios, turned off some of the settings in control panel, and fine tuned my gpu and i got an improvement on 3dmark from before



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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 18:11:14 (permalink)
    There ya go, your CPU score looks a lot better.

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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 18:22:36 (permalink)
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    ya i think im going to have to turn some of my settings down if i want the frames I have in mind. Silly me to think i can run everything on max with ray tracing and get 144fps on 2k with this card. I almost broke my pc updating the bios earlier but i fixed it. Now im on the latest bios, turned off some of the settings in control panel, and fine tuned my gpu and i got an improvement on 3dmark from before



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    Looking good!  So what is your case/fan setup?  If you have unimpeded (no radiator) intake fans and an exhaust you should be able to keep the gpu temp in the mid 60's at max power with 90-100% card fans.  Should be able to push the gpu up to +120 or +135 or +150 clock and the mem around +1500, this should get the TS gpu score around 13k.
     
    Looks like MW is tough to run, here's a 2080S test with 1440p and high settings, they are getting about 90 fps:
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9aQWy7X-q4
     
    I'm guessing he's running a 8700K and not cpu bottlenecking, nice 50% load across all cores/threads.
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    Re: Im not sure what to try anymore (2080 SUPER FPS ISSUE) 2019/12/09 20:05:04 (permalink)
    I just installed my i7 8086K and did a quick benchmark with everything at stock. I do have 4266MHz XMP RAM though...
    https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9617090

    Opened up Gigabyte EasyTune and locked all cores at 5.0GHz and I got this score:
    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/41781761?

    I would say your scores are pretty close to where they should be, considering I have a RTX 2080Ti... Don't mind the benchmarks, 3DMark's System Info is messed up on my main PC.
     
     

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