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2020/09/23 15:34:25 (permalink)
Imagine if you had your favorite tasties in your cart out shopping and they just sold it to someone else... This is getting silly guys

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:42:58 (permalink)
    Agreed.   https://imgur.com/a/DEnaeKC
     
    This is utter nonsense.
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:44:11 (permalink)
    Ive been watching the site for days, Have never even seen stock
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:44:14 (permalink)
    Yep. It's getting really hard to defend EVGA and any of their staff. I have praised their company for years, but right now I feel like I'm in an abusive relationship but I keep blocking out their abuse to cope and swear to other people that EVGA is a great company. I swear!

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:44:30 (permalink)
    You guys should feel fortunate your add to cart worked. I clicked it half a dozen times and got an error each time.
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:45:35 (permalink)
    I agree, at the very least follow what other large scale selling companies have been doing for literally years.  The item is in your cart, it's yours for X number of minutes, if you can't complete checkout within that number of minutes, THEN release the card for someone else.   This is mass demand selling 101.  Ticket selling companies have had this simple queue system for over a decade.
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:46:54 (permalink)
    https://i.imgur.com/JPuZ7hW.png Yet I didn't get one.  I was at the finish line but the website just wouldn't load
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:47:20 (permalink)
    I have one in my cart, Why not implement a system so if it's in your cart you have 1 hour to check out with it? after that it expires and is put back into the stock pool....

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:47:36 (permalink)
    Noone is going to implement this. Otherwise it will be possible for malicious users to halt sales by adding items to cart and never checking out.

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:48:25 (permalink)
    The title should say if it's in my cart don't allow a dirty bot to steel it from me
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:48:41 (permalink)
    a213m
    Noone is going to implement this. Otherwise it will be possible for malicious users to halt sales by adding items to cart and never checking out.


    Not really, After that one hour is up your account needs to wait a day before it can add it again.... it's not that hard to implement a queue based system 



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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:48:55 (permalink)
    a213m
    Noone is going to implement this. Otherwise it will be possible for malicious users to halt sales by adding items to cart and never checking out.



    I can't say I've ever seen that happen, even on extremely popular music concert tickets. That's not to say it doesn't, but I've never personally seen it.

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:49:45 (permalink)
    a213m
    Noone is going to implement this. Otherwise it will be possible for malicious users to halt sales by adding items to cart and never checking out.




    True.  I remember hearing a story at one of the custom build PC companies where a bunch of people build custom rigs 24 hours prior w/out the GPU and once the 30 series was released, they just added the GPU and checked out. 

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:51:55 (permalink)
    In the end, they don't care.  They are selling more than they can make.  As long as it appears they are trying, they will continue to sell.  EVGA can easily see which users have items in the carts, how long we have been registered, what other EVGA products we've bought, and make good on this.  More FTW3 will come, we should be the first to get them.  But they won't.. someone else will easily buy them.
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:52:08 (permalink)
    Not an hour, there are two industry standard times for cart queues.  5 minutes and 20 minutes depending on the type of sale.
     
    Given the eVGA site struggles to handle the load, it should be 20 minutes.  That's more than enough time for anyone who has one in their cart to complete, while anyone trying will get an out of stock message and back off their tries some reducing load for those trying to complete.  The checkout flow for card processing should also be offloaded to a different server pool that you can only get to if you have one in your cart, so it isn't a gate to completing the purchase.  This is simple stuff.
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:53:43 (permalink)
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    Noone is going to implement this. Otherwise it will be possible for malicious users to halt sales by adding items to cart and never checking out.




    True.  I remember hearing a story at one of the custom build PC companies where a bunch of people build custom rigs 24 hours prior w/out the GPU and once the 30 series was released, they just added the GPU and checked out. 


    Most sites reserve for a set amount of time(i.e. 10 or 15 minutes)

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:54:05 (permalink)
    a213m
    Noone is going to implement this. Otherwise it will be possible for malicious users to halt sales by adding items to cart and never checking out.


    Who said anything about it staying in your cart forever? Is 10-15min too much to ask?...

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 15:57:20 (permalink)
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    Not an hour, there are two industry standard times for cart queues.  5 minutes and 20 minutes depending on the type of sale.
     
    Given the eVGA site struggles to handle the load, it should be 20 minutes.  That's more than enough time for anyone who has one in their cart to complete, while anyone trying will get an out of stock message and back off their tries some reducing load for those trying to complete.  The checkout flow for card processing should also be offloaded to a different server pool that you can only get to if you have one in your cart, so it isn't a gate to completing the purchase.  This is simple stuff.


    Sadly with how slow the site runs 20min is almost not enough. I had one in my cart for over 30 minutes. Every time the site would load a new page in the progression it would crash meaning I would need to restart from checkout... I don't think even half of this was real people at all. I was actually ahead of Jacob saying anything on twitter by like a minute and still couldn't get a damn thing

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 17:46:44 (permalink)
    a213m
    Noone is going to implement this. Otherwise it will be possible for malicious users to halt sales by adding items to cart and never checking out.


     
    Simple solution:
     
    Make the 1 hour cart reservation available only for elite members and only for their first 3080 purchase. 
     
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 18:46:28 (permalink)
    I'm not even shopping direct from evga and I still agree. 
     
    I don't understand this, every single thing I've gotten from Ticketmaster has been like this for ages. Usually 5 minutes, which due to site crashes we could easily increase a bit. Not only that, this should help the site crashes. You will get that initial dump on the site then a few will get through and add to cart, after that it will then be out of stock and no more thrashing of the site. Will some trickle back into stock due to timing out, sure but this is still a way better system then what currently exists. 
     
    Look I love my evga cards, but this is not something that I can defend when there are options to fix, or at least help deal with the issues on releases like these.
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 18:49:24 (permalink)
    Reserving items in cart is only part of the problem. Today for example the card was able to be added to cart multiple times, but site would crap the bed every time you tried to. Bottom line is NOTHING is going to work if they can't even keep the website up and not moving slower than a snails pace. Bots don't need to be able to access/communicate with the actual pages like you and I do to add to cart, checkout, etc.
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 18:57:00 (permalink)
    Wait you mean they had more to sell today and I didn't get a notification AGAIN?  smh

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 19:04:28 (permalink)
    I happened to randomly catch them in stock today and yesterday but as soon as I added to cart the site dies during checkout and sure enough a feeding frenzy got announced on twitter both times. You guys need to take away Jake's twitter privileges (kidding!... mostly), they'll still sell out in nearly the same amount of time if you don't post new arrivals to twitter for a while, I promise :)
     
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 19:09:25 (permalink)
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    The title should say if it's in my cart don't allow a dirty bot to steel it from me



    The dirty bot already had it in his cart before you even clicked the add to cart button. So even of they were able to reserve a unit for 10-mins to allow you to finish the transaction, You wouldn't even be able to get to that step because they would be all be reserved and gone in seconds. 
     
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    Wait you mean they had more to sell today and I didn't get a notification AGAIN?  smh




    You can't rely on that system in these early days. Even without bot/scripts, by the time you got notified via email, they would all be gone.
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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/23 19:09:49 (permalink)
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    You guys should feel fortunate your add to cart worked. I clicked it half a dozen times and got an error each time.


     
    Don't say that...I had that situation yesterday and launch day.  I think it stung more than today when I had no hope.

    Veratu
    I agree, at the very least follow what other large scale selling companies have been doing for literally years.  The item is in your cart, it's yours for X number of minutes, if you can't complete checkout within that number of minutes, THEN release the card for someone else.   This is mass demand selling 101.  Ticket selling companies have had this simple queue system for over a decade.



    Ticket companies do it, yes, but Best Buy and New Egg for sure do not.  I have had this same in my cart, now gone while typing my CC with those two as well.  Add to it, Nvidia, who once I had it in my cart needed Captcha that froze and wouldn't process.  

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    Re: If it's in my cart DON'T SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.... 2020/09/27 20:24:20 (permalink)
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