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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/01 18:35:57 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who's going to keep their Titan X regardless of the 980Ti? lol
 
Maybe if they start popping up for cheap used I'll SLI. 
 
Only things I'd be selling my Titan X for is if a 990 (2 x 980Ti) comes out or if AMD's Fury ends up being decently faster than the Titan X. Also I'd wait for a 8GB vram version. 
 
This has happened before so it should be expected by now. But it does make sense to be upset since the Titan X doesn't even have the DP performance the original Titan/Titan Black had over 780/780Ti. 





Amen to that.  I'll be keeping mine.  I would be pissed if I had a 980ti knowing there was a faster card with 12bg of vram.  I love having the extra vram and I'll take the few more fps too, if you spend 1k you obviously want the best.  This happens every time and watch in a month or two when a game gets released that uses even more Vram than expected everyone will be selling the 980ti to get a Titan X.  Nvidia knows what they are doing, they have people buying video cards like they are hot cakes.
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/01 20:17:39 (permalink)
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Anyone, that has been around the industry for the past 3 years, knows that this is how Nvidia has been doing business. I purposefully skipped the Titan card knowing that the TI would be a MUCH better deal. Do you want the best deal? Wait till the first card of each architecture. I bought a 980 for just over 500 bucks and it was the top of the line... If I was concerned about money, I'd wait for the 1080... If that is such a thing... The next card after the 980ti. 




 
Nope. You wait until the last tock of the tock cycle when drivers and chipsets are mature and everything should work as intended.
 
I am returning my X to evga because it's broken, not because I have the remotest sense of Buyer's remorse. At true and not 16:9 4K/60hz I'm more than able to peg 7 or 8 gigs in Skyrim and Crysis via mods, and very close to the same with Mordor, in that instance the Ti is simply no good to me, price being relative. I do expect a working one with tested memory in return, that being said, cause this one is truely borked.
 
EVGA have been on the up and up in regards to customer service, so while you certainly have a legitimate complaint about nVidia playing dicey with release schedules, the FACT is they did this with the 580 3 gig via resellers and they did it with both Ti's of after that, and so did AMD. How quickly we forget AMD had sammich cards selling for TWO GRAND well after their generational replacements were on the market.
 
There are no innocents here. The onus is on ->you<- as a consumer to do your homework and SHOP SMART. Shop S-Mart.
 
If you disapprove of a company's methods, stop buying their products.
 
 
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 02:23:25 (permalink)
For me is enough that TITAN X SC have 5fps more than GTX980 SC in some new games. 
And that's nice to me...
When I replace GTX780 with GTX780Ti I had feeling that she is at least 30-35% maybe more stronger card,
but on paper she was faster maybe 20-25%.
Only because you are more satisfied when someone produce graphic processor and give you everything, full potential.
And for me is very funny to red people worldwide, I saw many many comments they almost joke with TITAN X owners as they made some mistake but whole time they will look how close they are to TITAN X.
 
I hope only that NVIDIA will not keep market full of GTX980Ti and small quantity of TITAN X.
I was ready to go on 6GB memory because huge money difference, but less CUDA Cores and less memory I can't swallow.
Grand Theft Auto 5 2560x1440p GTX980Ti 86 fps - TITAN X 94 fps... on my resolution that's 15 fps difference. 
Thief 5 fps difference, Witcher III TITAN X exactly smooth gaming, GTX980Ti probably somewhere fps drops below 60. On my resolution is everything almost double higher fps.
For me is enough to freely say to owners and future owners of TITAN X. They made smart move for future.
This is far from situation before one year when owners of GTX780Ti overclocked had higher score and better fps and same name of CUDA as TITAN Black. Now TITAN X is full Boss.

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 03:47:03 (permalink)
 Well, i guess people will complain about something....

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 04:03:14 (permalink)
i keeping mine!

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 04:10:31 (permalink)
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i keeping mine!



Nooo, that's not good card... 
I will buy you GTX980Ti SC or Classified and we can change if you want. 
 

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 04:12:19 (permalink)
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i keeping mine!

Good. . It's a killer card.

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 04:28:18 (permalink)
Off course it's killer... 
Real gaming card, but and extremely well for people who keep card longer.
Only for extreme overclocking and someone who want to play with modified BIOS will be better some GTX980Ti with custom PCB and more phase than TITAN X and maybe even 6GB OC better than 12GB, maybe not.
Because most gamers want and to overclock card but to keep stability in all games that's TITAN X SC or Hybrid.
Very small number of people will push their TITAN X more than that for every day gaming, EVGA drain max performance.
130-150MHz for reference PCB and 250W power consumption... excellent.
Only someone full of money and not afraid to burn card could push more and ask more.
 
 

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 04:41:26 (permalink)
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Off course it's killer... 
Real gaming card, but and extremely well for people who keep card longer.
Only for extreme overclocking and someone who want to play with modified BIOS will be better some GTX980Ti with custom PCB and more phase than TITAN X and maybe even 6GB OC better than 12GB, maybe not.
Because most gamers want and to overclock card but to keep stability in all games that's TITAN X SC or Hybrid.
Very small number of people will push their TITAN X more than that for every day gaming, EVGA drain max performance.
130-150MHz for reference PCB and 250W power consumption... excellent.
Only someone full of money and not afraid to burn card could push more and ask more.
 
 


But I thought the Titan was considered the "holy grail" in your eyes
Titan X is boss.

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 05:41:30 (permalink)
I get the feeling the folks that are dumping their Titan X cards are folks that likely bought the wrong card to begin with.
 
These would be folks that:
1. Had no business spending $1,000 on a GPU to begin with and it's a real budget concern
2. Did not understand the true value of 12GB VRAM (SLI, high resolutions, multi monitor)
3. Did not truly want the best card available (only want "good enough" for the price)
 
Don't get me wrong, I can understand why some folks are returning their TX card to get a lesser card that's "close" in performance and save $350 bucks. These are folks looking for a good bang for the buck.  And the 980Ti is certainly going to do that. But it is these folks that likely do not realize what the TX was all about to begin with in my opinion.
 
Although I'm a bit surprised the 980Ti is debuting at $650 (versus say $800), you couldn't pry my TX cards from my hands. 

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 05:48:03 (permalink)
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I get the feeling the folks that are dumping their Titan X cards are folks that likely bought the wrong card to begin with.
 
These would be folks that:
1. Had no business spending $1,000 on a GPU to begin with and it's a real budget concern
2. Did not understand the true value of 12GB VRAM (SLI, high resolutions, multi monitor)
3. Did not truly want the best card available (only want "good enough" for the price)
 
Don't get me wrong, I can understand why some folks are returning their TX card to get a lesser card that's "close" in performance and save $350 bucks. These are folks looking for a good bang for the buck.  And the 980Ti is certainly going to do that. But it is these folks that likely do not realize what the TX was all about to begin with in my opinion.
 
Although I'm a bit surprised the 980Ti is debuting at $650 (versus say $800), you couldn't pry my TX cards from my hands. 


The 970 contraversy/ The hype/ pressure from people saying they "need more VRAM".
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 05:49:20 (permalink)
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I get the feeling the folks that are dumping their Titan X cards are folks that likely bought the wrong card to begin with.
 
These would be folks that:
1. Had no business spending $1,000 on a GPU to begin with and it's a real budget concern
2. Did not understand the true value of 12GB VRAM (SLI, high resolutions, multi monitor)
3. Did not truly want the best card available (only want "good enough" for the price)
 
Don't get me wrong, I can understand why some folks are returning their TX card to get a lesser card that's "close" in performance and save $350 bucks. These are folks looking for a good bang for the buck.  And the 980Ti is certainly going to do that. But it is these folks that likely do not realize what the TX was all about to begin with in my opinion.
 
Although I'm a bit surprised the 980Ti is debuting at $650 (versus say $800), you couldn't pry my TX cards from my hands. 

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 05:56:55 (permalink)
I just hope people start unloading their Xs for a low price so I can SLI sooner rather than later :D
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 05:59:08 (permalink)
i'm stepping up to 2 980's, and i won't be happier until next year when Pascal is released. THAT is where the hype is going to be.

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 06:11:01 (permalink)
well most folks also think they are to going buy two 980ti for sli and its going to double there vram = wrong you will still only have 6 gigs

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 06:11:37 (permalink)
i hear you on this one

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 06:14:53 (permalink)
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I just hope people start unloading their Xs for a low price so I can SLI sooner rather than later :D [/qoute]
i hear you on this one
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 07:05:22 (permalink)
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Anyone, that has been around the industry for the past 3 years, knows that this is how Nvidia has been doing business. I purposefully skipped the Titan card knowing that the TI would be a MUCH better deal. Do you want the best deal? Wait till the first card of each architecture. I bought a 980 for just over 500 bucks and it was the top of the line... If I was concerned about money, I'd wait for the 1080... If that is such a thing... The next card after the 980ti. 




 
Nope. You wait until the last tock of the tock cycle when drivers and chipsets are mature and everything should work as intended.
 
 


And pay double... Makes sense. I'll be honest, haven't had any problems with my 980... 
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 08:05:36 (permalink)
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Anyone, that has been around the industry for the past 3 years, knows that this is how Nvidia has been doing business. I purposefully skipped the Titan card knowing that the TI would be a MUCH better deal. Do you want the best deal? Wait till the first card of each architecture. I bought a 980 for just over 500 bucks and it was the top of the line... If I was concerned about money, I'd wait for the 1080... If that is such a thing... The next card after the 980ti. 




 
Nope. You wait until the last tock of the tock cycle when drivers and chipsets are mature and everything should work as intended.
 
 


And pay double... Makes sense. I'll be honest, haven't had any problems with my 980... 


Get yourself another 980, and smoke the ti and the titan all together.

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 08:22:38 (permalink)
titan x has more ram but it just aint right at 400 dollars more......hurts the pocket book in a bad way.

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 09:03:45 (permalink)
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I get why people are crying
Nvidia told them the Titan X would be the fastest card for a long time and then 3 months later a new card comes with nearly the same performance for nearly half the cost


The people who buy / bought the Titan X with that mindset should've done their research prior to shelling out $1000+ and believing the marketing hype of a huge company out to make money. Even prior to the 980 release there were rumblings of the 980 Ti. I feel for the people who are feeling shafted, but, they should've known better. I got burned when I bought the 780 only to then shell out more money to get my current Ti's. Not this time. Passed on the 980 and the Titan X, and will happily buy a single 980 Ti to replace my SLI 780 Ti's.
 
*Edit: I'm sure I'll eat my words when after the launch of the latest from AMD, nVidia will release a "985 Ti" with all CUDA cores enabled to counter AMD. If that does actually happen, that may finally be enough of a reason for me to stop buying nVidia. Wouldn't be surprised, honestly.
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 09:16:04 (permalink)
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This is the case with all technology..something else eventually comes out that's better and/or cheaper.



Yeah...  Nvidia launches a flagship card and then displaces it by $400.00 1.5 months later?
 
That has never happened to this extreme before




Trust me when i say that the $350 difference is just starting out, the price difference between the two will narrow very quickly as demand for the card grows beyond supply capacity...
they set it at this price because AMD is releasing the 300 series very soon... the price will change, and the world will begin to make sense again soon...
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 09:21:30 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who's going to keep their Titan X regardless of the 980Ti? lol
 
Maybe if they start popping up for cheap used I'll SLI. 
 
Only things I'd be selling my Titan X for is if a 990 (2 x 980Ti) comes out or if AMD's Fury ends up being decently faster than the Titan X. Also I'd wait for a 8GB vram version. 
 
This has happened before so it should be expected by now. But it does make sense to be upset since the Titan X doesn't even have the DP performance the original Titan/Titan Black had over 780/780Ti. 





Amen to that.  I'll be keeping mine.  I would be pissed if I had a 980ti knowing there was a faster card with 12bg of vram.  I love having the extra vram and I'll take the few more fps too, if you spend 1k you obviously want the best.  This happens every time and watch in a month or two when a game gets released that uses even more Vram than expected everyone will be selling the 980ti to get a Titan X.  Nvidia knows what they are doing, they have people buying video cards like they are hot cakes.


The titan x memory was overkill currently... when would you ever use 12gb when most people dont exceed 4. When i see the pricing and spec comparison of the 980 classified vs the 980 Ti classified, then we'll talk. In my eyes, the release of the 980 Ti was either wayy late, or it was rushed to preempt the impending r9 300 series which im guessing is right around the corner. My instinct says that the 980 will now be priced where it shouldve been a year ago... I just wish there wasnt such a massive gap between the 980 and 980Ti in terms of the cuda cores. 
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 09:28:09 (permalink)
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 09:28:22 (permalink)
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This is the case with all technology..something else eventually comes out that's better and/or cheaper.



Yeah...  Nvidia launches a flagship card and then displaces it by $400.00 1.5 months later?
 
That has never happened to this extreme before




Trust me when i say that the $350 difference is just starting out, the price difference between the two will narrow very quickly as demand for the card grows beyond supply capacity...
they set it at this price because AMD is releasing the 300 series very soon... the price will change, and the world will begin to make sense again soon...




I don't see them raising prices on the card. 3rd parties might but I don't see them adjusting MSRP after its released in terms of RAISING the price. That's like giving your customers a giant middle finger.

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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 09:31:09 (permalink)
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The titan x memory was overkill currently... when would you ever use 12gb when most people dont exceed 4.


Overkill now, maybe, but in a year or two?  Hard to say.  I upgraded to an X from my 2GB SLI 680s because moving to 3440x1440 killed all performance - everything maxed out my VRAM. I've seen Star Citizen (I know it's unoptimized) eat over 5300MB of VRAM already on my X - so something with a 6GB limit doesn't sound as enticing once you're up in higher than 1080p resolutions.  It may still be overkill in the future, but I'd hate for otherwise fast cards to have to be replaced in a few years due to an unchangeable memory limit from when I bought them.
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 09:49:22 (permalink)
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I get the feeling the folks that are dumping their Titan X cards are folks that likely bought the wrong card to begin with.
 
These would be folks that:
1. Had no business spending $1,000 on a GPU to begin with and it's a real budget concern
2. Did not understand the true value of 12GB VRAM (SLI, high resolutions, multi monitor)
3. Did not truly want the best card available (only want "good enough" for the price)
This sums up my opinions on the subject as well.


In my mind, there is no damn point to being brand loyal because they are a business and making money is the point.  They aren't greedy just because some of us take our purchases way too personally.  It is just a damn computer, not a family member.  Titan-X owners should be proud and not insecure, they paid the premium to have a technology capability before everyone else, to enjoy it before everyone.  What's to feel bad about?  If someone could have waited, that isn't nVidia's fault; if they never looked into rumors before, I hope the lesson is learned, but still not nVidia's problem.  They are just trying to prevent customers from going to AMD, they have that right to protect their bottom line.  
 
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Although I'm a bit surprised the 980Ti is debuting at $650 (versus say $800), you couldn't pry my TX cards from my hands.
I raised an eyebrow to the possible $650 price when it was rumored late, but then I wasn't surprised.  Before 980Ti, 980 held the $550 bracket and Titan-X up at $1000.  If Fiji-XT was able to perform within 10% but with the rumored price of $850, then nVidia would lose potential Titan-X customers that don't need 12GB but want faster than 980.  So they attempt to fill their own gap, the creation of 980Ti, but at what price?  Matching price and performance puts too much uncertainty up to the customer especially when we don't know what Fiji-XT is capable of, the customer could decide 50/50; but nVidia wants it in their favor, hence much cheaper than expected.  


Of course all this assumes
  1. Fiji-XT is on average slower than Titan-X using the long-rumored 4GB HBM; if it ends up faster instead with 8GB, nVidia will make a faster Titan-X before Pascal next year as an 8GB Fiji-XT will end up to 20% faster than 980Ti but 15% cheaper than Titan-X.  It creates a problem that nVidia won't let go of.
  2. AMD won't change the MSRP from the rumor before they debut the card in a few weeks, AMD could lower it from $850, and the could raise it.  Key point is price.

OT, it is sad how many are trying to justify 980Ti as failed GM200 chips, as if it was inferior and that is the reason nVidia is selling them cheap-- they are still stuck in loyal mode and not bothering to think about the affect competition is forcing nVidia to make this preemptive strike against Radeon FURY so they don't loose customers...
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 10:26:44 (permalink)
It isn't a matter of calling them 'failed' chips.  Yields are never at 100%.  Things aren't perfect.  That is just the way it works.  And it always leads to having a 'lesser' card at a cheaper price, even if it ends up performing on par with the 'greater' card.  You don't simply throw away the chips you can't use.
 
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 10:35:57 (permalink)

Nvidia is a business partner. THey look at the price and what you're getting out of it. Realistically the cost of a Titan is currently right where it's supposed to be. You need to figure it's roughly $110-$125 for 1gb of ram. WHat i would recommend is get yourself a nice monitor to put out the nice images.
 
5k is coming. Maybe you can get one when they come out. Trying to come up with suggestions so you have a better justification that the Titan is a better card, *and* eventually the 12gb that you do have will be paid for down the road.
gtx 980ti might seem nice, but i have to agree with quite a few people... eventually 6gb is nothing once developers put out better images and textures. That 12gb will be worth it.
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Re: I'm a Titan X owner who is officially bummed 2015/06/02 10:57:35 (permalink)
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Am I the only one who's going to keep their Titan X regardless of the 980Ti? lol
 
Maybe if they start popping up for cheap used I'll SLI. 
 
Only things I'd be selling my Titan X for is if a 990 (2 x 980Ti) comes out or if AMD's Fury ends up being decently faster than the Titan X. Also I'd wait for a 8GB vram version. 
 
This has happened before so it should be expected by now. But it does make sense to be upset since the Titan X doesn't even have the DP performance the original Titan/Titan Black had over 780/780Ti. 





Amen to that.  I'll be keeping mine.  I would be pissed if I had a 980ti knowing there was a faster card with 12bg of vram.  I love having the extra vram and I'll take the few more fps too, if you spend 1k you obviously want the best.  This happens every time and watch in a month or two when a game gets released that uses even more Vram than expected everyone will be selling the 980ti to get a Titan X.  Nvidia knows what they are doing, they have people buying video cards like they are hot cakes.


The titan x memory was overkill currently... when would you ever use 12gb when most people dont exceed 4. When i see the pricing and spec comparison of the 980 classified vs the 980 Ti classified, then we'll talk. In my eyes, the release of the 980 Ti was either wayy late, or it was rushed to preempt the impending r9 300 series which im guessing is right around the corner. My instinct says that the 980 will now be priced where it shouldve been a year ago... I just wish there wasnt such a massive gap between the 980 and 980Ti in terms of the cuda cores. 




I'm using 7.5gb of vram in Shadow of Mordor with just one 1440p monitor.
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