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2013/03/03 21:40:41 (permalink)
I have  a Geforce 210 w/1GB & PCI-E for my Dell 915GV chipset (2.8 w/HT; 1GB ram), Dimension 4700.  I am  upgrading  to enable   video capture to digitize my old HI8 analog family videos. I first tried to do it with my older Dell 400sc (2.8 w/HT; 2GB ram AGP w/256mb video).  That system would bog down after 7-8 minutes  with some frame loss.  I'm hoping for 30fps.    My new system  has SATA HDD's (1 system/1 data) and a sata DVD burner.  I'm hoping the  PCI-E with increased video memory will help.  I'm using a  Pinnacle PCI-510 video capture board to input the analog video via SVHS cable.   Any thoughts suggestions? I'm running XP.   neil
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    Re:I gearing-up for Video Capture and I'm a newbie at graphic cards. 2013/03/03 22:25:32 (permalink)
    One thing i'll say is this your GPU Will have nothing to do with the Capture of your video... It's all going to come down to the other hardware, like CPU, Ram, HDD speed, and Capture device.. 
    and since you have a capture card some of the work load is dumped to that but still need to have the other items up to spec.
     
    I will be honest it's been a long time since i've captured Analog video (not since high school)  but my best suggestion would be  this. 
     
    If you have a Digital or Mini DV camcorder that has Video in ability. I would dump it to that first. 
     
    Cause then at that point it's already Digital and just needs to get transferd from point A to B, Mini DV was nice cause you could easly set in and outs via the time code that was on the tape if you where running Via Fire wire or USB to the capture software. But with S-video it's all Real Time Capture. AKA you tell it start then you hit play on your source. 
     
    And if what i'm seeing on your capture board..  all it's doing is providing a video input. it doesn't handle really any of the capture and encoding of the video coming in. Which would be handled by  the CPU and Ram and how well the software that is being used to capture is optimized.
     
    if your new set up doesn't work as well. then my main two suggestions would be  these
     
    Better Capture software
    Better Capture device or Capture card that will handle a bit of the processing (if there are really any that are out there that do that not fully sure)
    More ram...
     
    Those would be my best suggestions.
     
    as for the GPU.. as far as i under stand. that won't even be used at all unless the video editing software you use to Render out the Video is Cuda enabled software. then it would use some of the GPU power to encode and render out the final video.
     
    hope that helps a bit  as for every one else. feel free to correct me or back me up or make fun of me if you wish.
     

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    Re:I gearing-up for Video Capture and I'm a newbie at graphic cards. 2013/03/04 13:30:10 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the Replies.  I am not a gamer   (although I  am setting up MS Fliiht simulator with F-18 add-on w/ full wepons  complement.  Video Capture is my main interest.    I found variouscommentsn  extolling the benefits of pci-e GPU cards w/ GB level  memory.  To quote: 
      


    "PCIe offers tons of performance benefits over AGP. There have just not been video cards released to take advantage of it yet, but the X1900s are probably getting close if they haven't already saturated AGP 8x. There are other things than video cards, too. PCIe x16 might be a revolution for capture cards."

    I am going to try my video caputure this evening.   i believe my PCI-E 1 GB series 210 wil make a tremendous diference,   Meaning minimum frame loss  at 30 FPS.  The addfitiion of audio to my HDMI output to my HDFTV is a welcome plus and i wonder if i would bve better choosing  my   dianmond  pCI Sund Card application.  The Pinnacle Sound input (PCI-510 internal card)   alows me to chosew wgicxh audio prosessor i want to record/edit/dubb  from.   I feel my video capture project (about 6 hours real time raw footage) is set upo right (after a few moths of mistakes).   i'm very positve about having the right setup to do my video capture work.
    I only wish I could use Firewire to input to signal to my computer  but I will settle for SVHS input from analog camera.
     
    Any Suggestions Thoughts/
    Neil, n2eye
    post edited by hutlaw - 2013/03/04 13:36:56
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    Re:I gearing-up for Video Capture and I'm a newbie at graphic cards. 2013/04/01 12:39:04 (permalink)
    Just a note on my video capture (Analog to Digital)  experience w/ the 1GB/PCI-E 210 series card.   The video card did  indeed  improve performance of video capture over my first attempt using an AGP 256mb  ATI Rage  GPU  on a similar computer (2.8/HT  2GB ram).   I successfully converted some 8 hours of videos.  I have to do it again as I incorrectly connected the audio line but the video came out great considering the tapes were 20 years old.  The new computer is also a Dell 2.8/HT but only has 1GB ram but a PCI-E port and the GeForce card).
    Despite NovaKit's comments on the GPU card having no bearing on Video Capture, I disagree.    I'm not a techno-whiz but  everyone else I  read on many video forums claim that  that the GPU ram and  PCI-E port both heavily affect the video analog to digital capture process.
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    Re:I gearing-up for Video Capture and I'm a newbie at graphic cards. 2013/04/02 06:19:26 (permalink)
    NovaKitFox
    If you have a Digital or Mini DV camcorder that has Video in ability. I would dump it to that first.  
     
     
    ・Connect the analog terminals Hi8 and DV camcorder
    ・Connect the DV camcorder and Dimension 4700 in iEEE
    ・Play the Hi8, May enter into Windows Movie Maker ...through the DV camcorder,
    ・...And start Windows Movie Maker's REC.

    [MoBo] 915G Express FSB 800 MHz  ( Dell Dimension 4700 2009
    [CPU] P4@HT 2.80GHz
    [RAM] DIMM×2 DDR2-2GB
    [VGA] Geforce 210  ( DirectX10.1 for Windows 7 <---
    [SATA] SDD ( OS
    [USB2] Usb-Device ( work#1 folder etc.
    [USB2] Usb-Device ( work#2 folder etc.
    [SATA] HDD ( Data
    [SATA] DVD-drive 
    [USB2] Keyboard ( or PS2
    [USB2] Mouse
    [USB2] Or USB Capture devices <---
    [IEEE1394] DV camcorder
    [S/PDIF]
    [PCI Express x16] Geforce 210 
    [PCI Express x1] 
    [PCI] Creative X-fi
    [10/100 Ethernet] 
    [OS] XP

    Or USB Capture devices
    GV-USB2/HQ and GV-USB2 ( software encoder
    ・Pentium 4 2.0GHz / AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ or Higher
    ・1GB systems memory
    ・DirectX 9.0c

    GV-D4VR ( hardware encoder
    ・Pentium 4 3GHz / Athlon 64 X2 3800+ or Higher
    ・1GB systems memory
    ・Intel 915G or Higher ( PCI-Express_x16 VGA 
    ・DirectX 9.0c

    post edited by ZonePricyWolf - 2013/04/04 01:40:33


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    Re:I gearing-up for Video Capture and I'm a newbie at graphic cards. 2013/04/02 08:37:48 (permalink)
    NovaKitFox
    as for the GPU.. as far as i under stand. that won't even be used at all unless the video editing software you use to Render out the Video is Cuda enabled software. then it would use some of the GPU power to encode and render out the final video.

     
    [OS] 7or8 64bit
    [CPU] 2or4core 3GHz+
    [RAM] 2x 4G+
    [VGA] Cuda
    ・Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 12 (Only to Sony AVC.
    ・Badaboom
    ・Super LoiLoScope
    ・PowerDirector 7+ 
    ・ArcSoft TotalMedia
    ・Theater vReveal
     
    --------------------------------------------------------- 


    Geforce 210  
    DVI, VGA, Display-Port ( HDMI 
    InternalAudio Input for HDMI 
    Single-slot Width 
    105C Maximum GPU Temperature  
    300W Minimum System Power Requirement 
      
    Geforce 210  
    [GPU Core] GT218 ( CUDA Cores 16  
    [Transistors] 727 million 
    [Process] 40 nm 
    [Vertex Pipelines] 16 
    [Pipeline Layout Scalar] MADD+MUL 
    [Fragment Pipelines] 16 
    [Texture Units] 8 
    [Raster Operators] 4 
    [Pixel Fill Rate] 2356 MPixels/sec 
    [Texture Fill Rate] 4712 MTexels/sec 
    [Core Clock] 589 MHz 
    [Shader Clock] 1402 MHz 
    [Memory] 512,1024 MB 
    [Memory Clock] 500 MHz (1000 DDR) 
    [Memory Bandwidth] 8 GB/sec 
    [Memory Type] DDR2 
    [Memory Bus] 64 bit 
    [FLOPS] 44.864 GFLOPS 
    [DirectX] 10.1 
    [OpenGL] 3.2 
    [PS/VS Version] 4.1/4.1 
    [Interface] PCI-E 2.0 x16 
    [Max Power Draw] 30.5 W 
    [Noise Level] Silent 

    ・9400GT≦ GPU Core GT218 = Geforce 210 
    ・Geforce 210 - OpenGL 3.1 / DirectX10.1  Windows 7 
    ・9400GT - OpenGL 2.1 / DirectX10  Windows Vista 

      
      
     
    post edited by ZonePricyWolf - 2013/04/04 01:39:25


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    Re:I gearing-up for Video Capture and I'm a newbie at graphic cards. 2019/11/17 10:13:20 (permalink)
    2019 Update:  It's November 2019 and I had to do the same  Analog to Digital capture job again  because  my storage/backup HDD  failed.
    I was amazed the original Hi8 tapes were still good recorded in mid 1990's. 
    So I got another Hi8 camera to play into the same PCI-510 Pinnacle board but used Studio 20 (instead of 15) and a better computer (OptiPlex  MT-780 w/Q9650, Quadro 600 gpu and 8gd3).
    It worked far better/faster than first time using only a C2D cpu, GT-210 gpu and 4gd2. 
    post edited by hutlaw - 2019/11/17 10:15:59
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    Re:I gearing-up for Video Capture and I'm a newbie at graphic cards. 2019/11/17 10:59:59 (permalink)
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    2019 Update:  It's November 2019 and I had to do the same  Analog to Digital capture job again  because  my storage/backup HDD  failed.
    I was amazed the original Hi8 tapes were still good recorded in mid 1990's. 
    So I got another Hi8 camera to play into the same PCI-510 Pinnacle board but used Studio 20 (instead of 15) and a better computer (OptiPlex  MT-780 w/Q9650, Quadro 600 gpu and 8gd3).
    It worked far better/faster than first time using only a C2D cpu, GT-210 gpu and 4gd2. 




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