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2021/11/24 07:19:27 (permalink)
Some of you may recall my x58 build. As much as I like that system and now that I have the CPU pushing 4.4ghz. the ram at 2ghz 10-10-10 and the second GPU install I find myself wanting something new for once, No not NOS, new new. But I want to keep the case and sleeper vibe.
 
Having recently payed off my credit cards and having gotten a new credit card with a welcome bonus of 20% off amazon it was a no brainer, now is the time to build a new system. Oh and yes the 20% is capped, so wile it sounds grate its only good for 150$
On top of that amazon messed up and refunded me nearly 1200$, and oddly they don't want it back. I tried to pay them back but they stated the seller refunded me and the seller looks to be no longer on amazon. The seller was from over seas so I can't see them coming back at me its been 6 mouths anyway.
 
So I went over to amazon and picked out a rather good mid range z590 setup, 32gb of 4000mhz ram, a i5 and a more budget motherboard, all in all it was a under 500$. 
But I got cold feet and canceled the order.
After doing some digging for a better deal I found a new in box x299 dark for 400$. With the 20% off and a few gift cards I more or less got the board for 300$. Now a smart guy would have passed but I'm not smart. So yeah I bought the x299 dark...
 
Next I needed a CPU, boy was I shell shocked when I saw the prices on CPUs, I payed 275$ for a new 9800x for a client a few years back at micro-center, now folks are wanting 300+ for a used 9800x ? I thought x299 was a dead end and well hated platform?
Well the cost of a CPU was just the start of things. I need a new PSU, some new cooling bits, I may need to do a few mods to my old case, I need a new GPU. yeah, yeah, yeah, lots more to spend. 
 
So amazon kept messing up the order on the x299 dark motherboard, the whole idea was that I would get 20% off the motherboard with a new credit card that had a welcome bonus of 20% off amazon purchases. But since amazon would not get my address right and lost not one but 2 boards in the mail I gave up on that. After scrolling eBay I found a deal on a Asus p9x79ws, 3930k and 16gb of ram for 160$, I could not pass up on that TBH. So for the time being the build will be a x79 system.
 
So here are the parts I'll be using.
Case: mid 90s Pentium pro server case
Motherboard: Asus p9x79ws.
CPU: xeon 1680v2
Ram: 64gb Ripgaw X 2133mhz cl10.
GPU: 980ti.
Display: 20" 2k CRT.
Cooling: Heatkiller iv CPU block. 1/2tubbing 240mm rad and d5 pump.
PSU: FSP Hydro PTM Pro 750W.
OS: TBD
Storage: 4 2tb HDDs raid 5, 2 250gb SSDs raid 0 boot drive.
Other parts: 70% white alps switches POS keyboard and early x7 mouse.
 
Cost so far.
Motherboard/ram/cpu combo: $160
CPU: 90$
PSU: $146.92
GPU: $360
CPU block: $70
Tubing/clamps: $6
Pump: $84.99
Rad: $110.50
Cost of the system so far: $668.41
Discounts/cashback/coupons: $173.28
Cash flow from selling my x58 system: $140
Cash flow from selling the ram/CPU that came with the x79 board: 50$
Wired Amazon refund: 1200$
Money left over: $894.87
 
On to the build.
I'm still in the planning phase so hold on for the good stuff.
post edited by austin86 - 2021/12/28 08:07:25
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/11/27 00:20:23 (permalink)
Looking forward to the build and pictures. 

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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/11/27 06:18:49 (permalink)
Looks like a pretty solid build so far.  I prefer the 10900X over the 9800, though

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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/11/27 06:38:05 (permalink)
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Looks like a pretty solid build so far.  I prefer the 10900X over the 9800, though


I agree. The 10900X is a better CPU. 

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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/11/27 07:18:02 (permalink)
Thanks for the interest. Unfortunately In going to have to put this on the back burner. My work is planning to roll out a covid vac requirement and I been strongly advised by my doctor to not take any of them and it doesn’t look like they will be allowing any medical exceptions. The build will still move forward, just at a snails pace as I may end up needing to live on my side hustle.

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Looks like a pretty solid build so far.  I prefer the 10900X over the 9800, though


I agree. The 10900X is a better CPU. 

I agree too, however both are a massive upgrade over my x58 system so it will likely come down to cost.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/11/29 07:47:30 (permalink)
Ok, so I made up my mind on the cooling parts.
I will be using a Phobya uc-1 extreme CPU block, a 240mm x-flow rad from hwlabs,1/2 tubbing with a 500lph 12v pump.
For fans I will be using 120mm 1200rpm fans from xspc and 92mm fans from scythe. 
All these parts I all ready had and are in good shape. How ever I worry about the block and rad being able to hold up to a 9800x or 10900x. The rad is rather slim and wile the uc-1 extreme is a good block its far form the best.
 
To help out the rad ill be gutting some 120mm fans to use as spacers on the rad fans, this will help over come the dead spot caused by the fan motor.
I might lap the CPU block, its seen a lot of use and is rather scuffed up.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/11/30 20:43:47 (permalink)
Its not much but I got the two 120mm fans gutted for the rad. The gutted fans act as spacers and help overcome the large fan motor on the xspc fans. I know it’s not much but it helps. I may put a seal around the fans too. That will help force more are though the rad. Anything to help cooling is always welcomed.


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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/03 20:22:29 (permalink)
Well aplenty amazon was having problems with the x299 dark order. They state the order got assigned as my local fulfillment center but they did not have it in stock and the order got stuck. But um good news. They found what fulfillment center it was in stock at and the board should ship out tomorrow. They gave me 30$ gift card for the trouble.
Amazon needs to fix the glitch on my account. 50% of the time my orders get refunded after delivered or stuck and never shipped.  I guess I should not complain lol I spent maybe 2k at amazon this year and about 1500$ of witch was refunded despite getting what I bought. You'd think they'd want the money back and its not like this is new ether, its been going on for years.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/03 22:31:49 (permalink)
Yep 10900X ;)

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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/03 22:43:50 (permalink)
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Yep 10900X ;)

As tempting as it is I can’t help but feel ill get mote bang for the buck with the 9800x, heck the 10920x isn’t all that much more second hand. It will mostly come down to price.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/03 22:50:21 (permalink)
Why X299? As you pointed out, the cost of the processors are up there. Also... EVGA never did a revision of the X299 to fully support the 10th series if you want those extra PCI-E lanes they added. Only Gigabyte and MSI did that revision.

Right now the i7 10700K is one of the best deals you can get if you have a microcenter around ($219)... pair it with a Z490 board and you will be good to go.

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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/04 17:11:26 (permalink)
z489, z590 and z690 are not a option for me, I need more lanes, sata ports and win7 support. being 4 lanes down from 48 is not a big deal tho. Sadly amazon contacted me stating they shipped the board to the wrong address. I'll have to deal with that now sadly.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/09 08:56:29 (permalink)
Good lord amazon is fudging up the order of the x299 dark.
The first one, they sent it to a USPS PO box via ups. So ups sent it back. They shipped out a second one but canceled the order before it shipped, then they refunded me for the order, only to recall the refund and replaced it with a 5$ credit and issued anther board to be shipped out only to cancel that too. I been on the phone with amazon left and right and at this point and etch rep goes in a 100% different direction. So at this point I don't know what to do lol.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/10 20:16:23 (permalink)
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/11 09:40:45 (permalink)
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Good lord amazon is fudging up the order of the x299 dark.
The first one, they sent it to a USPS PO box via ups. So ups sent it back. They shipped out a second one but canceled the order before it shipped, then they refunded me for the order, only to recall the refund and replaced it with a 5$ credit and issued anther board to be shipped out only to cancel that too. I been on the phone with amazon left and right and at this point and etch rep goes in a 100% different direction. So at this point I don't know what to do lol.


Sorry to hear about that news. 

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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/11 13:42:16 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby austin86 2021/12/17 07:27:10
Ouch on the board good luck, getting stuff not in production anymore is painful... I would not say you are doing something stupid now if you paid like 4k for a 700-900 dollar card yup you would have done something stupid and or really wanted it that bad. I have no room to talk though, I bought my first built to order pc ever out of desperation on getting a 30 series card.

 
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/14 01:44:52 (permalink)
Any updates?

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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/14 06:09:24 (permalink)
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Any updates?

On the motherboard, Amazon has yet to deliver on the order, and they’re refusing to refund as well stating some nonsense about a ongoing issue with a bank I don’t even have. So I gave up on amazon and will hunt for a bard else were.
For the time being I have a x79 board ill use temporary as a place holder.

However I received the new PSU yesterday, I have it in the case. I also got 4 hdd hot swap cages and installed them and made a custom sata cable for them. I’ll post photos of that later on today.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/14 08:24:27 (permalink)
Not the best photo but you get the point. I still need to put a molex end on the cable I made. I can't seem to be able to find my molex pins at the moment.

 
I also received the place holder x79 bard today.
 
EDIT
I'll have to post photos but the x79 board is looking rather nice in the system. I might just have to stick with it lol.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/16 10:29:37 (permalink)
OK chugging along here. Here is what the build looks like now.The system in it is a place holder until I find a good deal on a x299 dark and cpu.

 
I also bought a few new water cooling parts for the build. The UC1 block sucks with the 3930k and if it sucks on that CPU I can't see it being at all usable on a x299 CPU with their much higher TDP.
 
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/24 08:25:48 (permalink)
OK a small update.
I got a alphacool 240mm monsta rad, a Koolance PMP-450 D5 pump and HEATKILLER IV BASIC block.
I was going to use a 240mm xapc rad, but after thinking it over and getting a 100$ form amazon form that amazon credit card I was like, yeah lets upgrade that rad.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2021/12/28 06:59:44 (permalink)
OK, so I should get the new rad and pump tomorrow or Thursday.
Since I have to take the loop apart to install the alphacool 240mm monsta rad I'll be doing some case modding wile I"m at it.
I'll be drilling a few holes for cable management and I'll likely make a divider on the bottom of the case were the PSU/pump is.
 
Also since I can't seem to find a good deal on a x299 dark and CPU I'll stick with the x79 system for now. I sold the ram/3930k and scrapped the heatsink that came with the board. I used the money to buy a 1680v2.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2022/01/03 12:09:29 (permalink)
still waiting on a few parts, But in the mean time I cleaned up the case.
 
Before

 
After

 
I still have to fix the scrape on the bottom side.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2022/01/03 12:48:00 (permalink)
Interesting so far

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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2022/01/06 11:18:05 (permalink)
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Interesting so far


thanks, glad to see someone still has interest in the build after to took may turns for the worse.
Anyway I been fighting some stomach and intestinal problems so I not been working on it much.
However I am slowly making head way on the build. I have the monsta rad installed and I sort of have the heat killer block installed, however the block was missing the 2066/2011 mounts so I had to rig up something for the time being. I'll try to post photos of the system so far tonight.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2022/01/06 12:52:46 (permalink)
been lurking on this build for a minute, i have no idea what im looking at but I like looking at something that doesn't look like 99% of builds.

 
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2022/01/06 14:14:15 (permalink)
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been lurking on this build for a minute, i have no idea what im looking at but I like looking at something that doesn't look like 99% of builds.

Sometimes I wonder what I’m doing, between my inability to stay on corse with a project, my dyslexic laced rambling and genial craziness I’m a mess lol. But yes I don’t do normal builds. Basically its a gaming pc that doubles as a home server all wile looking like a old pice of crap.
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2022/01/06 20:41:13 (permalink)
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 all wile looking like a old pice of crap.



Will be hilarious when have friends over.  Just keep saying "Trust me, she's still got some kick left in her"
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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2022/01/07 07:05:46 (permalink)
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all wile looking like a old pice of crap.



Will be hilarious when have friends over.  Just keep saying "Trust me, she's still got some kick left in her"


To make things better I have windows shell swapped, I'm using comemu with far manger for the user interface. More or less looks like dos running norton commander.
 
The rad is a monster, its 85mill thick without the fans. 

 
 
I still need to mount the pump down and do some better cable routing.
Also if you are wondering were the rez is, well there is none. I used the drain port on the rad. I need to add a small fitting and a little tubbing to the port to help bled a little air out of the rad, but for the most part its does not have any air in it.

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Re: I did something dumb; a build log. 2022/01/07 11:53:17 (permalink)
sweet jesus that rad 

 
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