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How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell

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2020/07/16 00:40:22 (permalink)
hello, i'd like to verify the performance issues that i'm starting to suffer are from the graphics card and not from any other parts. Ideally i'd like if any issue are confined to the card so i can just buy a new evga card but it's hard to tell. Basically severe stuttering when dragging internet windows playing videos, and a bunch of games that used to perform over 60fps, like even 2d undemanding games, are lagging severely to a degree of lower than 20 fps in some cases. I'd like if i can get any guidance on what to test to put the nail in the coffin rather than having difficulty with inconclusive results
 
Things i have done:
  • checked resource monitor and task manage for any spikes in cpu, gpu, mem etc.
  • complete reset with drive cleanly formatted. (tested drive performance also)
  • looked at some bios stuff but largely unfamiliar but nothing looks wrong or strange?
  • Multiple driver versions tested
  • checked potential power issues blah blah but have a 1000watt supply and 2 power connecters with fans spinning on gpu etc.
  • different bois versions
  • check component heats and such and everything under or around 40 degrees c
other pc specs:
970 evga card
x79 sabertooth asus board
i7-4930k
4*4gb ddr3 1600mhz gskill ripjawz
1000 watt hx corsair psu.
 
I don't expect full answers but will appreciate it, i'm having great difficulty finding anything useful and simple online.
-regards
 
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    dampbacon
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 01:23:39 (permalink)
    oh and i changed pci slots and still had issues?
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 01:24:50 (permalink)
    Is the card boosting to its advertised boost clock when playing a demanding game? When playing under demanding games you'll most likely need to set power management mode inside the nvidia control panel to prefer maximum performance to get full performance.

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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 01:38:37 (permalink)
    Thanks for quick reply
    I'll double check but i believe it's already set to that, basically without changing anything i had a noticeable drop in any performance in all software basically, ill get back to you in a short while so i can confirm.
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 02:23:55 (permalink)

    gpu perfermance, it runs at the clocks it should but not sure about what all the other graphs mean this ran at 60 fps with the settings i used, its currently running at 20-30fps i'll get stats from another game, which isn't demanding on perfermance which i had lag in
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 02:25:33 (permalink)
     uh hope link shows?
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 02:31:46 (permalink)
    1050 is the base clock of the card. Your card isn't boosting. No boost = lower performance.

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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 02:33:26 (permalink)
    on the graph the small peaks in the middle i believe were boosts it got to 1200 ish in logs
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 02:37:26 (permalink)
     boosts upto 1265mhz
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 02:41:04 (permalink)
    So i ran a 2d game i have issues, with which should be able to run on a potato min spec required(  GeForce 7600 GS (512 MB),  Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 ) 20-40 fps with logs basically showing idle gpu usage 1050mhz
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 03:33:33 (permalink)
    it appears to be non gpu?
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 12:31:20 (permalink)
    Is your cpu running at its advertised speeds when running the games?

    Is your gpu running at x16 3.0 bus interface speed while running the gpu-z render test?

    Have you optimized your games with geforce experience? If no, don't do it. If yes, delete the game config files, and set the graphics settings back up manually.

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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 20:09:44 (permalink)
    cpu isn't always utilized but when needed boosts to specified clock. One oddity though is the one cores temps reading really weirdly 2 degrees c while rest around 30 c this is the same with an older bios and the latest version for the board i'm using. Games aren't optimized with geforce, i checked, i usually disable it because nvidia had interesting ideas on what optimized means.
    It is also running at x16 3.0 nus interface speed while running the test on GPU-z
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/16 20:35:00 (permalink)
    2c sounds odd for sure. Either the software isn't reading it correctly, or something is up with your cpu.

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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/17 04:43:45 (permalink)
    Your CPU might have a stuck sensor. It happens. It shouldn't affect CPU performance. It should only affect the ability of the CPU to protect itself in the event that it overheats. But if the CPU did overheat at some point subsequent, well there could be something now wrong with it.

    Techpowerup's RealTemp program has a sensor test built in because stuck sensors used to be quite common.

    The Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool is supposedly able to determine if your CPU is still operating correctly.
    https://www.intel.com/con...005567/processors.html
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/17 06:40:50 (permalink)
    Thanks, i'll check that out and post result sometime, if i can't find find whats causing my pc to stutter after that i guess i should get ready to build a new pc *groan*  (not in usa, prices + $200 usd average for parts). 
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/17 19:18:53 (permalink)
    I have a GTX 970 SSC GAMING ACX 2.0+ (04G-P4-3975-RX).
     
    It's great, but has an annoying habit of crashing in games despite _not_ being under full load.
    (There's a theory that it boosts faster than the voltage supply can keep up.)

    I installed EVGA Precision XOC, and set the GPU clock offset to -50 MHz.  So far, it hasn't crashed.
    (If it does, take off another 50 MHz.)
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/18 05:18:31 (permalink)
    Sooo cpu is fine, ran all the suggested tests, looks like one sensor was stuck, it's becoming a bit of uh frustration but thanks everyone for the help, i'll try gpu clock down next, but if that doesn't fix it ill just go for an upgrade.
    post edited by dampbacon - 2020/07/18 05:22:13
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    Re: How to check if my graphics card is starting to break (970 evga card). Hard to tell 2020/07/25 10:39:30 (permalink)
    EVGA boosted these cards a little outside of their range but they are essentially the same card as the FTW edition and have the nice version of the ACX cooler that has the VRM plate.  When modifying the BIOS on this particular card I noticed the frequency range was aggressively offset a little more than stock cards.
     
    If you're noticing across the board issues where the framerate drops to 20 or below and it's consistently staying that low, I would think you're most likely looking at actual throttling.  CPU overheating (do you have an AIO?) and throttling would do this but so would GPU throttling, just unlikely with that cooler to cause an issue that drastic.
     
    I usually run HWinfo64 and GPU-Z at the same time while gaming to see;
    1) the CPU clock sped being reached (HWinfo64),
    2) the CPU core temps being reached (HWinfo64),
    3) GPU frequency + PerfCap reason (GPU-Z),
    4) GPU Load (GPU-Z).
     
    If one of these do not show a bottleneck, you could be looking at corrupted drivers.
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