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2020/09/03 17:54:20 (permalink)
Just went out and found this comparison of the 3080 with a modded 2080 Ti:
 
https://youtu.be/UjVvXGzvPZU?t=463
 
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 18:01:44 (permalink)
    Care to summarize? That is way too much video from someone who does not have one of these cards in hand.

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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 18:02:42 (permalink)
    Do we actually know if the footage from DigitalFoundry was actually from the 3080? There is a chance the video was taken from the 2080 but the actual graphs and % numbers from their testing. 
     
    I have been following DF for so long and I trust them personally. I do not think they are faking numbers to make Nvidia look good just because they sponsored them.
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 18:04:04 (permalink)
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    Care to summarize? That is way too much video from someone who does not have one of these cards in hand.


    The OP is ticked that a 3080 is going to beat out a 2080 Ti, and is using 2080 FE to 3080 FE stock benchmark video of SoTTR to "prove" them all wrong.
     
    Edit: the DF guy also stated that the NDA prevents them from showing the FPS numbers. And if you think for ONE SECOND that Nvidia would let them show the FPS counter of the 3080 in the footage of the SoTTR canned benchmark (which crazy hair dude is going with) for several days now without legal consequences - I've got some bottom land to sell you.
     
    Dollars to donuts, that's the 2080 FE FPS in the upper left - left there for our edification in finding out the actual FPS of the stock 3080 FE. Yet again, we will find out for sure when the NDA is lifted or a reviewer leaks.
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 18:13:28 (permalink)
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    Care to summarize? That is way too much video from someone who does not have one of these cards in hand.




    No.  I'm about half way through the second video.  It's a must watch.
     
    But if you insist.....dude has a modded, high power waterblocked 2080 Ti and it smokes the 3080. 
     
    IMHO any reasonably well cooled and OC'd 2080 Ti should match a 3080 stock.  Because that's what a 3080 is - a 2080 Ti with higher clock, higher power limit and better cooling.
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 18:17:47 (permalink)
    Clearly the 3080 is smoother and faster.
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 18:28:38 (permalink)
    oh man, it's kevin again, just generatin' threads - dude,  your're still on the EVGA forum.. you didn't even create a new account or nuttin    LOL 
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:07:58 (permalink)
    Here's the same guy's 2080 Ti benches, he does 17048 Timespy GPU.
     
    https://youtu.be/JLZpbMx3IZU?t=232
     
    So yeah, 3080 stock should come in around 16K, maybe even less.
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:09:15 (permalink)
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    Here's the same guy's 2080 Ti benches, he does 17048 Timespy GPU.
     
    https://youtu.be/JLZpbMx3IZU?t=232
     
    So yeah, 3080 stock should come in around 16K, maybe even less.


    You’re so far beyond delusional that it’s actually hilarious.
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:14:46 (permalink)
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    Here's the same guy's 2080 Ti benches, he does 17048 Timespy GPU.
     
    https://youtu.be/JLZpbMx3IZU?t=232
     
    So yeah, 3080 stock should come in around 16K, maybe even less.


    You’re so far beyond delusional that it’s actually hilarious.



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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:30:51 (permalink)
    Not sure what that fps counter is for in Tomb Raider, but if you freeze on the transitions, the FPS are the exact same.  Which doesn't make any sense.  And it happens 3 or 4 times.  I am not sure what it is doing, but it isn't for the game itself.  

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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:38:01 (permalink)
    it's amazing, in a game with vsync on, fps never goes above 60...
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:39:40 (permalink)
    Nvm. Guess we're talking about different things.  Only video I'm talking in reference to is original DF video.  
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:40:31 (permalink)
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    it's amazing, in a game with vsync on, fps never goes above 60...




    You haven't gotten to the second video yet.  Or you're talking about the second video where he literally runs the full benchmark with VSYNC ON.
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:44:14 (permalink)
     
    You've been trolled.
     


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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:46:24 (permalink)
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    Care to summarize? That is way too much video from someone who does not have one of these cards in hand.




    No.  I'm about half way through the second video.  It's a must watch.
     
    But if you insist.....dude has a modded, high power waterblocked 2080 Ti and it smokes the 3080. 
     
    IMHO any reasonably well cooled and OC'd 2080 Ti should match a 3080 stock.  Because that's what a 3080 is - a 2080 Ti with higher clock, higher power limit and better cooling.


    "Because that's what a 3080 is - a 2080 Ti with higher clock, higher power limit and better cooling."
     
    This is absurdly wrong.
    2080 Ti is 4,352 shaders the 3080 is 8,704.
     
    Secondarily, why would you be vouching for or characterizing something you've not even watched and the person who made it, is apparently 'so dumb' he is mistaking the DF Foundry video as comparing a 2080 Ti to a 3080 when in fact it was a 2080 being compared. I'd be ashamed to have posted a thread this silly and misleading.

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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:50:57 (permalink)
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    You've been trolled.
     




    Not by me.  AFAIK the Tomb Raider FPS numbers is the only other bench we have right now.  IMHO this guy does a pretty good job breaking them down.  Maybe he's wrong, who knows. 
     
    I do know that I'm just a bit tired of 14 year olds on reddit telling me the 3070 is the best thing ever and 2080 Ti's are worth $300 now, lol.
     
    The 3080 should be an awesome card regardless and great deal.
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 19:52:38 (permalink)
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    Care to summarize? That is way too much video from someone who does not have one of these cards in hand.




    No.  I'm about half way through the second video.  It's a must watch.
     
    But if you insist.....dude has a modded, high power waterblocked 2080 Ti and it smokes the 3080. 
     
    IMHO any reasonably well cooled and OC'd 2080 Ti should match a 3080 stock.  Because that's what a 3080 is - a 2080 Ti with higher clock, higher power limit and better cooling.


    "Because that's what a 3080 is - a 2080 Ti with higher clock, higher power limit and better cooling."
     
    This is absurdly wrong.
    2080 Ti is 4,352 shaders the 3080 is 8,704.
     
    Secondarily, why would you be vouching for or characterizing something you've not even watched and the person who made it, is apparently 'so dumb' he is mistaking the DF Foundry video as comparing a 2080 Ti to a 3080 when in fact it was a 2080 being compared. I'd be ashamed to have posted a thread this silly and misleading.




    You didn't even watch the videos.  Furthermore, you haven't seen all the other sources who questioned the last minute magical doubling of core count. 
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 20:25:50 (permalink)
    The reason the cuda cores are so high is because the ampere cores can do 2 operations per clock. 10496/2 = 5248
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 20:48:50 (permalink)
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    The reason the cuda cores are so high is because the ampere cores can do 2 operations per clock. 10496/2 = 5248


    Is it true that ampere has double the raw shader performance but is bottlenecked elsewhere?

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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 20:57:55 (permalink)
    Damn Kevin, you really went and ran with this dumb stuff eh? I personally don't think you can be this naive as I've seen you post things that aren't absolute rubbish but this? Do you really (I mean REALLY) think the 3080 is only going to be about as fast as a 2080 Ti? 
     
    Look I know you want to consider running SLI on your 2080 Ti and cool, good go do it. Don't let the upcoming generation of cards ruin that for you if that's what you want to do, then you do you man. You want to parade some clowns video as your spear of truth? Really? That idiot in the video reminds of the morons who think the Earth is flat, we've never been to the moon and Elvis is still alive. C'mon man let it go. This isn't a good look for....well anyone really. 

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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 21:25:04 (permalink)
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    Damn Kevin, you really went and ran with this dumb stuff eh? I personally don't think you can be this naive as I've seen you post things that aren't absolute rubbish but this? Do you really (I mean REALLY) think the 3080 is only going to be about as fast as a 2080 Ti? 
     
    Look I know you want to consider running SLI on your 2080 Ti and cool, good go do it. Don't let the upcoming generation of cards ruin that for you if that's what you want to do, then you do you man. You want to parade some clowns video as your spear of truth? Really? That idiot in the video reminds of the morons who think the Earth is flat, we've never been to the moon and Elvis is still alive. C'mon man let it go. This isn't a good look for....well anyone really. 




    Just approaching the whole thing with a bit of skepticism, don't like the lack of facts in the release, nor the raft of tech press parroting.  We'll have to wait and see on the benchmarks, maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. Watch the videos and decide for yourself.  Or don't.  I'm still an Nvidia and EVGA fan.
     
    I'd rather not sit around guzzling the koolaide..........are you not entertained?
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 21:35:58 (permalink)
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    Damn Kevin, you really went and ran with this dumb stuff eh? I personally don't think you can be this naive as I've seen you post things that aren't absolute rubbish but this? Do you really (I mean REALLY) think the 3080 is only going to be about as fast as a 2080 Ti? 
     
    Look I know you want to consider running SLI on your 2080 Ti and cool, good go do it. Don't let the upcoming generation of cards ruin that for you if that's what you want to do, then you do you man. You want to parade some clowns video as your spear of truth? Really? That idiot in the video reminds of the morons who think the Earth is flat, we've never been to the moon and Elvis is still alive. C'mon man let it go. This isn't a good look for....well anyone really. 




    Just approaching the whole thing with a bit of skepticism, don't like the lack of facts in the release, nor the raft of tech press parroting.  We'll have to wait and see on the benchmarks, maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. Watch the videos and decide for yourself.  Or don't.  I'm still an Nvidia and EVGA fan.
     
    I'd rather not sit around guzzling the koolaide..........are you not entertained?


    I can't take that idiot seriously. He so hilariously clueless it's actually cringe. The guy is getting roasted in his own comment section on top of having practically no idea what he's talking about. You really can't be taking that clown seriously can you?
     
    No one says you have to buy into any hype, but for you to then to take some nonsensical, terribly put together, guy's ramblings in his moms conspiracy basement as justification for your cause is the complete other end of the spectrum. 

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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 21:51:27 (permalink)
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    The reason the cuda cores are so high is because the ampere cores can do 2 operations per clock. 10496/2 = 5248


    Is it true that ampere has double the raw shader performance but is bottlenecked elsewhere?


    More can be done because of the 2 operations per clock. I wouldn't say it's bottlenecked. 
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 21:53:19 (permalink)
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    Damn Kevin, you really went and ran with this dumb stuff eh? I personally don't think you can be this naive as I've seen you post things that aren't absolute rubbish but this? Do you really (I mean REALLY) think the 3080 is only going to be about as fast as a 2080 Ti? 
     
    Look I know you want to consider running SLI on your 2080 Ti and cool, good go do it. Don't let the upcoming generation of cards ruin that for you if that's what you want to do, then you do you man. You want to parade some clowns video as your spear of truth? Really? That idiot in the video reminds of the morons who think the Earth is flat, we've never been to the moon and Elvis is still alive. C'mon man let it go. This isn't a good look for....well anyone really. 




    Just approaching the whole thing with a bit of skepticism, don't like the lack of facts in the release, nor the raft of tech press parroting.  We'll have to wait and see on the benchmarks, maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. Watch the videos and decide for yourself.  Or don't.  I'm still an Nvidia and EVGA fan.
     
    I'd rather not sit around guzzling the koolaide..........are you not entertained?


    I can't take that idiot seriously. He so hilariously clueless it's actually cringe. The guy is getting roasted in his own comment section on top of having practically no idea what he's talking about. You really can't be taking that clown seriously can you?
     
    No one says you have to buy into any hype, but for you to then to take some nonsensical, terribly put together, guy's ramblings in his moms conspiracy basement as justification for your cause is the complete other end of the spectrum. 




    Oh sure.  Dude is a loony toon, but so is Buildzoid sometimes.  I was drawing similar conclusions prior to finding the video.
     
    Saddest part though is the people waiting for the 3070 that might not be any better than a 2080S in non RTX.
     
    We'll just have see though, won't we?  You can all roast me if I'm wrong and I promise to not gloat too much if I'm right.
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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 22:02:30 (permalink)
    Honestly, it is a bit weak that nV compares the 3070 to a 2080ti, but the 3080 they compare to a 2080.  I think everyone is wanting to know how it compares to the latest and greatest they have now.  Benchmarks should reveal some good stuff.
     
    I think we will see the 3080 be around 1.5-2x faster than the 2080 on average, with that gap on the Ti variant potentially being in the 1.2-1.6x area.

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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 22:06:25 (permalink)
    I am waiting until we see multiple benchmarks but from what NVIDIA released it seems like it's going to be faster then a 2080Ti.

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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 22:14:33 (permalink)
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    The reason the cuda cores are so high is because the ampere cores can do 2 operations per clock. 10496/2 = 5248


    Is it true that ampere has double the raw shader performance but is bottlenecked elsewhere?


    More can be done because of the 2 operations per clock. I wouldn't say it's bottlenecked. 


    But AFAIK the 3080 isn't twice as fast as the 2080 ti even though it has twice the CUDA core count.

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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/03 22:25:21 (permalink)
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    The reason the cuda cores are so high is because the ampere cores can do 2 operations per clock. 10496/2 = 5248


    Is it true that ampere has double the raw shader performance but is bottlenecked elsewhere?


    More can be done because of the 2 operations per clock. I wouldn't say it's bottlenecked. 


    But AFAIK the 3080 isn't twice as fast as the 2080 ti even though it has twice the CUDA core count.





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    Re: "How is everyone so dumb?" Tomb Raider Benchmark comparison with 2080 Ti 2020/09/04 09:54:37 (permalink)
    Uh, does he think DF was showing the 3080 SoTTR benchmark and not the 2080 one? They clearly know the FPS counter is in the top. 
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