fofal
 
post a screenshot where you are hitting so much vram in the games.

It's a waste of time. People here are convinced that's not the actual amount. 2 people here played Grand Theft Auto V and already said they were at 9GB's. One guy played extensively and reported around 9.3GB max. The other guy played 30-seconds and was at 9GB, but he doesn't believe that's the amount actually being used. You can read their posts. They are still there.
 
Maybe something is wrong with my V-RAM that causes the exact same issue in 3 different games when reported use hits around 9.84GB's. FPS drops to the 20's until I lower a setting to go under 9.84Gb's. And 9.84GB's isn't actually showing 10GB or over. It's still under, so I have to take that into consideration.
 
Or maybe it is exceeding its capacity. 
 
Doesn't matter anymore. Eventually I'll know for sure on my own.
 

bloodshot45
you need to use a program like RenderDoc.
Once you have RenderDoc installed, load up GTA 5 as you've been saying and show that VRAM is actually using over 10GB of VRAM. You can find the data under statistics.

You can also use MSI Afterburner. That's what I use.
https://www.resetera.com/...r-process-vram.291986/

lantern48

bloodshot45
you need to use a program like RenderDoc.
Once you have RenderDoc installed, load up GTA 5 as you've been saying and show that VRAM is actually using over 10GB of VRAM. You can find the data under statistics.

You can also use MSI Afterburner. That's what I use.
https://www.resetera.com/...r-process-vram.291986/

 
Can you install RenderDoc and see if the numbers match up? That still looks like MSI Afterburner is just showing VRAM reserved for the game process rather than actual usage. I guess I can also test myself later and report back.

MatthewAMEL

bloodshot45
 
Because it isn't the actual amount used and you've been told this many times. If you want to see ACTUAL VRAM usage then you need to use a program like RenderDoc.
Once you have RenderDoc installed, load up GTA 5 as you've been saying and show that VRAM is actually using over 10GB of VRAM. You can find the data under statistics.

I am asking because I genuinely don't know...doesn't CPU-Z show actual VRAM used? I've run it on a few games during this thread to see how my 1080Ti does in 1440p.
 
I watch it bounce between 7GB and 9GB in AC:Odyssey. 5.5GB - 7.9GB in Fallout 4 with about 200 mods.

I have been using GPU-Z, which reports "memory usage", not sure what that actually represents. I got similar numbers in those same games.

MatthewAMEL

bloodshot45
 
Because it isn't the actual amount used and you've been told this many times. If you want to see ACTUAL VRAM usage then you need to use a program like RenderDoc.
Once you have RenderDoc installed, load up GTA 5 as you've been saying and show that VRAM is actually using over 10GB of VRAM. You can find the data under statistics.

I am asking because I genuinely don't know...doesn't CPU-Z show actual VRAM used? I've run it on a few games during this thread to see how my 1080Ti does in 1440p.
 
I watch it bounce between 7GB and 9GB in AC:Odyssey. 5.5GB - 7.9GB in Fallout 4 with about 200 mods.

I assume you mean GPU-Z, it shows memory requested.
 
Dug this up from an old review which actually got information from NVIDIA directly :
 
GPU-Z claims to report how much VRAM the GPU actually uses, but there’s a significant caveat to this metric. GPU-Z doesn’t actually report how much VRAM the GPU is actually using — instead, it reports the amount of VRAM that a game has requested. We spoke to Nvidia’s Brandon Bell on this topic, who told us the following:

“None of the GPU tools on the market report memory usage correctly, whether it’s GPU-Z, Afterburner, Precision, etc. They all report the amount of memory requested by the GPU, not the actual memory usage. Cards will larger memory will request more memory, but that doesn’t mean that they actually use it. They simply request it because the memory is available.”
 
Source : https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/213069-is-4gb-of-vram-enough-amds-fury-x-faces-off-with-nvidias-gtx-980-ti-titan-x
 
Now the review was from 2015 so clearly the tools could have easily changed since then. But as far as I know, all the known popular tools such as GPU-Z/Afterburner/Precision/etc.. still show memory requested.

lantern48

ReZpawN
 
i love how literally everyone is like 10gb of vram is enough but you still get people that are like no its not enough, somehow i think im gonna trust nvidia and game devs more than some guy on a forum 

You shouldn't trust me. Test for yourself. My goal is not be right. It was to share what I came across in testing. Instead of other people testing to see if I'm an isolated case, this turned into a thread full of Twitter level opinions. People who don't even own a 3080 making claims about what it can and can't do. People who don't play in 4k. People who don't have the games mentioned. People using a 2080 Ti as a comparison.


 
If it turned out what I tested was completely wrong if tested by others, then that's fine. It's not about being "right."
I just never thought a forum of fellow computer geeks would think feelings and opinions matter more than data.
Now I know.
 
 

i have a 3080 and play at 4k and i havent had vram issues at all, i have been able to run all the newest games at max settings at 4k 

After 4 pages, let's get back on topic.
 
Q: Has anyone had problems with a RTX 3080 and it's 10GB of Vram?
A: One person makes this claim.
 
 
You decide whether than one person's claims are valid.

lantern48

ty_ger07
After 4 pages, let's get back on topic.
 
Q: Has anyone had problems with a RTX 3080 and it's 10GB of Vram?
A: One person makes this claim.
 
 
You decide whether than one person's claims are valid.

Yes and make sure to use your feelings in doing so. Feelings are the most important thing, of course. No 3080 needed. No 4k monitor/tv required. None of the games that may be exceeding are necessary. Oh, and opinions are extra valuable if you only game in 1080p and "never have V-RAM issues." 
 
 
And your feelings are doubly valid if you don't like the possibility that there are some games that can already exceed 10GB's. Then for sure how you feel about that should decide "your truth."

i do have a 3080 and a 4k tv and i game in 4k, i do have most new games as well and had no issues at all at max settings 

lantern48

ReZpawN
 

i do have most new games as well and had no issues at all at max settings 

That's such an incredibly broad statement. What does it actually mean? Don't bother answering. Or do. Whatever. This has devolved into repeating the same things over and over. Not doing it anymore.

its means that 3080 has no issues playing newest games at 4k at max settings 

Remember most monitoring tools are telling you ALLOCATED vram by the application, not what’s really used.

The only one that shows real vram usage is the latest afterburner, but you must do this:

Install MSI Afterburner 4.6.3 Beta 2 Build 15840 from https://www.guru3d.com/fi...ner-beta-download.html
Enter the MSI Afterburner settings/properties menu
Click the monitoring tab (should be 3rd from the left)
Near the top and next to "Active Hardware Monitoring Graphs" click the "..."
Click the Checkmark next to "GPU.dll", and hit OK
Scroll down the list until you see "GPU Dedicated Memory Usage", "GPU Shared Memory Usage", "GPU Dedicated Memory Usage \ Process", "GPU Shared Memory Usage \ Process"
Pick and choose what you want to be tracked using the checkmarks next to them. "GPU Dedicated Memory Usage \ Process" is the # that most closely reflects the # we find in FS2020 Developer Overlay and Special K (DXGI_Budget, except Unwinder uses D3DKMT api)
Click show in On-Screen Display, and customize as desired.
???
Profit

Important Note:
“GPU dedicated memory \ process” and “GPU shared memory \ process” are currently not supported for EAC/BattleEye protected games (as they require opening game process from external application, such request won't work for EAC/BE protected games).
-Unwinder

I have tried most intensive games at 4K maxed out and most if them don’t pass 6GB of ram, 7ish at the most.

the_Scarlet_one
z999,

I really think a better question would be, “if anyone has a 3090, is it actively using over 10gb of VRAM.”

A lot of what people are saying here is speculation, and others are talking about very specific games. I think if you look at cards that have the ability to use over 10gb, without it being a limit, you could see what games even have the ability to exceed the 10gb mark.

I remember when 4K started becoming a mainstream goal back in 2014, most people said the whole point of 4K was so you don’t need things like AA, and other features, since the resolution was so high and monitors so small, that it literally wouldn’t make a difference. Now folks are using massive TV’s for gaming as well, so AA and those other features are becoming important. I feel that the games that are actually exceeding the limit could also use a little optimization to make use of the faster memory as well.

If a game from 2015 is exceeding the limit at 4K, that is probably a game engine issue or some sort of mods, since the game didn’t even have the option to use that much VRAM in 2015.

So I'm one of the lucky (unlucky for the wallet) few that managed to get a 3090 FTW3 on launch. I also picked up a 4K 144Hz monitor (LG 27GN950 , I double tapped my wallet RIP) to game on.

While I don't play the three specific games someone has stated to have VRAM limitations, my VRAM allocation has never really gone past 7-8GB. I'll download the new Afterburner beta and check actual usage.

Games I've played so far in 4K max settings: Monster Hunter World Iceborne, Total War War Hammer 2, Vermintide 2, Division 2, Horizon Zero Dawn.

As it stands to the OPs original question. No, there are no issues with 10GB of VRAM, I know I have 24GB but allocation doesn't seem to go past 7-8GB at max settings in what I play and I haven't even gone through most of my other games yet.

I am not saying there might not be, but it sounds like those are fringe cases that most people will not run into. 10GB is fine and if anyone wants peace of mind, just wait and pay the slight premium for the 20GB model when that comes out.

Yes, in Warzone. There is some sort of issue with the Vram, as I have to keep it below a certain level in the in game menu or I get micro stutter due to high fluctuation in frame times. Lowering the texture resolution to low fixes the problem. The same settings on my 2070S are fine so it has to be a driver or game issue. 
 
Regular multiplayer is fine. 
 
 
 
Even when I lock my FPS to something low I get huge fluctuations in Frametime from 5ms to up to 12ms. 
 

 

Interesting... an AMD partner game needs more GPU memory than NVIDIA's most popular current gen video cards?  Who would have guessed!?!?
I definitely wouldn't use that as a canary in the coalmine.

mobhill
So is it true or not that when you hit actual VRAM limitation your game will slow and become unpleasant to play until you back off on the settings? I mean, if it's only allocated use, you wouldn't expect a dip at all, right? So if you are going along in your game and it hits 9.84 GB or whatever and your performance tanks, would that not indicate a real VRAM limitation, rather than just the "allocated" figure? I don't have a 3080, but I do have a 4k OLED that I game on, so if I get a 3080 I will be interested to test this out in the games mentioned. I would rather see for myself if 10GB is enough, rather than taking anything as gospel from people who haven't tested specifically to see if there are VRAM limitations at the highest settings possible.
 
My bet is that there are indeed VRAM limitations, because that's just common sense. At some point 10,000GBs would run into a limitation, if you pushed it far enough. It's also pretty fair to claim that even if there are VRAM limitations, it won't be a big deal for 99% (or more) of games and gamers out there for the next few years.

That is exactly what happens. When your card ACTUALLY runs out of VRAM the game will turn into a virtual slideshow as assets are being swapped from the page file in windows. It won’t be just a little hitch or micro stutter, it will be a large hang or stall and the game will start to chop and run in the single digits FPS until the GPU is able to fetch whatever data it was looking for.
 
Most people here (hell I’d venture say virtually all by reading their replies) have never actually seen what happens when you are truly VRAM limited. 

paulmcpazzi
Godfall System Requirements List 12 GB VRAM for 4K and Ultra HD Textures:
techpowerup.com/274218/godfall-system-requirements-list-12-gb-vram-for-4k-and-ultra-hd-textures
 

Already posted above. Post #115.

As I said above, it's an AMD partner game and it is interesting that they specifically say that a RTX 3080 may not be enough compared to the RX 6800 XT. In other words, there's a lot of marketing at stake, and I wouldn't use it as my benchmark of the norm.