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I made a quick tutorial video on how to remove the plastic window, which greatly reduces the temps and lowers the acoustic levels on the Nvidia Founders cards. It's super easy. =) Temps were 85-90 degrees under load - 53% fan speed New Temps 75-79under load - 53% fan speed idle temps were 29 degrees celcius idle temps now 24 degrees celcius Rosewill Cullinan MX case Enjoy Here is the video with HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_FgknUDisQ&t
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 12:20:13
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ok it made a seriously huge difference. It dropped my temps 10 degrees celcius with the same fan profile
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 12:28:35
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Share more details ?
What is your fan profile
What case are you using
How do you get that heat out of your case - fan setup
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 12:30:43
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I guess it would depend on your case / case airflow. obviously now it is dumping a bit more hot air inside your case instead of all funneled thru the chamber to the outside vent .... brave venture ,either way. 
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 12:58:53
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10c drop? Nice. What were the temps before & after?
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 13:20:19
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Would removing the plastic window on the founders edition lower temps at all? I figure this way it would allow the fins on the vapor cooler to stay cooler because they wouldnt be so confined. But I'm not sure.
Thoughts?
I'm probably gonna try it today just for the fun of it. I'll let you know results
The shroud is designed to direct flow through the fins and out the rear. The clear portion is cosmetic, it could be solid plastic for all the difference it would make. I don't know why you'd see any significant drop in temps.
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Would removing the plastic window on the founders edition lower temps at all? I figure this way it would allow the fins on the vapor cooler to stay cooler because they wouldnt be so confined. But I'm not sure.
Thoughts?
I'm probably gonna try it today just for the fun of it. I'll let you know results
The shroud is designed to direct flow through the fins and out the rear. The clear portion is cosmetic, it could be solid plastic for all the difference it would make. I don't know why you'd see any significant drop in temps.
Well it made a huge difference.... Here is a pic of the card with the clear window removed. I used nuts behind the screws so they could still be attached (for aesthetic purposes). There was plenty of room for the nuts, because there is a notched out section on the heat vapor chamber.  Video is still uploading
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 13:51:49
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Are those heatfins? If so then it would make sense if the heat wasn't trapped by a plastic cover.
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Are those heatfins? If so then it would make sense if the heat wasn't trapped by a plastic cover.
That's exactly what I was thinking. It just looks like it would run cooler with more air flow around those fins.
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Are those heatfins? If so then it would make sense if the heat wasn't trapped by a plastic cover.
That's exactly what I was thinking. It just looks like it would run cooler with more air flow around those fins.
Those are the heatfins that surround the vapor chamber. A lot of heat goes through this area.
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 14:02:02
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ok it made a seriously huge difference. It dropped my temps 10 degrees celcius with the same fan profile
This is really cool! Thanks for experimenting. Just wondering, did you check thermals with/without the case side panel before removing the plastic on the card? If so did you check thermals with/without the case side panel after?
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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ok it made a seriously huge difference. It dropped my temps 10 degrees celcius with the same fan profile
This is really cool! Thanks for experimenting. Just wondering, did you check thermals with/without the case side panel before removing the plastic on the card? If so did you check thermals with/without the case side panel after?
Yes I did check that. Because this is a blower style card, it had minimal impact on the thermals. It's only about 1 degree difference in my case. I did mod my side panel so the GPU is sitting around 2 inches from the side glass panel. However, I do have those 3x80mm fans throwing cold air onto the glass which travels up and helps with airflow as well
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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ok it made a seriously huge difference. It dropped my temps 10 degrees celcius with the same fan profile
This is really cool! Thanks for experimenting. Just wondering, did you check thermals with/without the case side panel before removing the plastic on the card? If so did you check thermals with/without the case side panel after?
Yes I did check that. Because this is a blower style card, it had minimal impact on the thermals. It's only about 1 degree difference in my case. I did mod my side panel so the GPU is sitting around 2 inches from the side glass panel. However, I do have those 3x80mm fans throwing cold air onto the glass which travels up and helps with airflow as well
Thanks for the info!
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 15:46:00
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Okay, so you started at your normal gaming temps at ~90C and I assume since your fan speeds were so low~ 55% that you were limiting them on purpose? That's pretty strange. I got nowhere near those temps before I installed the Hybrid.
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 15:47:00
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What happened to the Vapor Chamber? Or is only NVIDIA using them on their FE Cards?
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 16:02:05
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What happened to the Vapor Chamber? Did you remove it?
Your going where my mind went when I first read this post.
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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HD video is now live! =)
Okay, so you started at your normal gaming temps at ~90C and I assume since your fan speeds were so low~ 55% that you were limiting them on purpose?
That's pretty strange. I got nowhere near those temps before I installed the Hybrid.
you seem angry - lol I was limiting the fan speeds, because the card is super loud. with the fans running at 55% fan speed, I was getting temps up to 90 degrees celcius. Remember my card is vertical so its a little hotter than if it was in standard horizontal mount. This shows that the standard load temp is 84 degrees celcius. https://www.anandtech.com/show/11180/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-review/16 This made a monstrous difference for me
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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What happened to the Vapor Chamber?
Or is only NVIDIA using them on their FE Cards?
The vapor chamber is a sealed unit that is underneath the black heatfins you see. No liquid travels on the black heatfins
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Nice vid. 
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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HD video is now live! =)
Okay, so you started at your normal gaming temps at ~90C and I assume since your fan speeds were so low~ 55% that you were limiting them on purpose?
That's pretty strange. I got nowhere near those temps before I installed the Hybrid.
you seem angry - lol
I was limiting the fan speeds, because the card is super loud. with the fans running at 55% fan speed, I was getting temps up to 90 degrees celcius. Remember my card is vertical so its a little hotter than if it was in standard horizontal mount.
This shows that the standard load temp is 84 degrees celcius.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11180/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-review/16
This made a monstrous difference for me
Er no. I'm just curious as to what you did under what conditions. It would have been excellent to have had a stock settings with window versus stock settings without the window as a comparison.
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Interesting. I have this card in one of my PCs I will try this to see how it works tomorrow with and without on some games. Curious to see results.
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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Interesting. I have this card in one of my PCs I will try this to see how it works tomorrow with and without on some games. Curious to see results.
It would be interesting to see, with more of the heat from the GPU being exhausted into the case, how it affects other temps. That's the main reason for the blower with the enclosed shroud. Anyway, to my way of thinking, If I had a GPU mounted vertical with side window access in the same plane at a reasonable distance, there would be a fan sucking out all that hot air like pronto...but that's just me... 
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
2018/02/14 20:27:20
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I just tested the card, both ways with Battlefield 1 in the same position. I found that running the cards at the exact fan speed gave me right around 10 degrees celcius cooler on my GPU (with the plastic window off). If I left everything on Auto, the card was around 6 degrees cooler celcius with the plastic piece off - however, the RPM's on the fan didn't get as high that way (2800rpm with plastic on, 2634 with it off). So it was definitely both quieter and cooler with the plastic piece off. My CPU temp did get 2 degrees celcius hotter with the plastic window off. However, I tested the computer with the plastic part off second, so the fluid in the radiator could have been slightly warmer for the second test. I'm compiling the videos together and will upload the full video when its done.
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Re: Founders Edition Plastic Window Removal Question about Temps
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What happened to the Vapor Chamber?
Or is only NVIDIA using them on their FE Cards?
The vapor chamber is a sealed unit that is underneath the black heatfins you see. No liquid travels on the black heatfins
Thanks.
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