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2021/07/26 14:49:36 (permalink)
California Has new power regulation coming effective December 2021 that affect gaming PC's.
Dell has on their web site that they will not ship Alienware PC to 6 states 
 
quote: "This product cannot be shipped to the states of California, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Vermont or Washington due to power consumption regulations adopted by those states. Any orders placed that are bound for those states will be canceled."
 
here is the web site https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/alienware-aurora-r12-desktop?~ck=mn
https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/26/dell_energy_pcs/
 
There is a video on Youtube video about this.
 
Has anyone else heard about this?
 
Will this effect EVGA Power supplies? 
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/26 23:58:11 (permalink)
    I don't have an answer for you so I have forwarded this to EVGA

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 02:38:11 (permalink)
    Lol. Dumb.

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 02:43:51 (permalink)
    Personally I wouldn't worry that much since Intel is headquartered in San Jose California. So I am sure the largest CPU manufacture for desktops is well aware of the new requirements. NVIDIA also is in California in Santa Clara so I can see Intel and NVIDIA wanting to run high end desktops which means power requirement changes.
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 05:21:43 (permalink)
    I wonder if the new ATX12VO specifications is the solution to this legislation.
     
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 05:39:17 (permalink)
    It seems a whole bunch of the article was purposefully skipped to push the “effect”.

    Yes, this was driven by the California Energy Commission (CEC) Tier 2 implementation that defined a mandatory energy efficiency standard for PCs – including desktops, AIOs and mobile gaming systems. This was put into effect on July 1, 2021. Select configurations of the Alienware Aurora R10 and R12 were the only impacted systems across Dell and Alienware.


    The good news is that the Aurora builds have been getting absolutely terrible reviews, so that means they are saving a lot of people from purchasing a bad built pre-built system. That isn’t a problem, that is a good thing, even if accidental.

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 06:24:21 (permalink)
    As far as we have heard this would only affect certain prebuilt or preconfigured PCs, but we do not have confirmation as of yet. We do not have any reason to believe this will affect the sales of individual parts, or anyone who would be building/upgrading their own PC. We should know more, as more information becomes available on this matter.
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 09:54:01 (permalink)
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    It seems a whole bunch of the article was purposefully skipped to push the “effect”.

    Yes, this was driven by the California Energy Commission (CEC) Tier 2 implementation that defined a mandatory energy efficiency standard for PCs – including desktops, AIOs and mobile gaming systems. This was put into effect on July 1, 2021. Select configurations of the Alienware Aurora R10 and R12 were the only impacted systems across Dell and Alienware.


    The good news is that the Aurora builds have been getting absolutely terrible reviews, so that means they are saving a lot of people from purchasing a bad built pre-built system. That isn’t a problem, that is a good thing, even if accidental.



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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 10:04:15 (permalink)
    After checking with our Product Management team, this will not impact EVGA directly, as it doesn't effect individual components. 

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 10:51:24 (permalink)
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    After checking with our Product Management team, this will not impact EVGA directly, as it doesn't effect individual components. 


    Just to add to this, these sorts of regulations are generally well-known to the industry years before they ever come into effect.  Affected companies will have already modified their product lineups or policies to be in compliance, so there won't be any surprises there, either.  Tech writers, on the other hand, don't usually pay attention to this kind of thing until they suddenly see something surprising or people complain.
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 10:54:23 (permalink)
    one way around it would be for PCs to be shipped with no video card preconfigured and have the consumer install it.   I don't know.  This is stupid

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 11:18:23 (permalink)
    This it the future my generation and generation after mine "want"
     
    Can someone invite a time machine please?

      
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 11:56:57 (permalink)
    If many of those states adopted clean energy solutions and/or additions their wouldn't be such regulation in my opinion. 

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 13:57:31 (permalink)
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    If many of those states adopted clean energy solutions and/or additions their wouldn't be such regulation in my opinion. 




    Yep, it's definitely needed too. Clean energy initiatives should already be national, but progress on this stuff is slow.

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 17:43:46 (permalink)
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    communists never cease to amaze me at their stupidity.
     


    This
     
    So If I have purchased and installed 50 solar panels on my rooftop I am not allowed to have a folding farm or game? This is truly an invasion of privacy. Thankfully I do not live in those states but I am in NY (upstate) which will probably soon follow.
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 18:45:34 (permalink)
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    communists never cease to amaze me at their stupidity.
     


    This
     
    So If I have purchased and installed 50 solar panels on my rooftop I am not allowed to have a folding farm or game? This is truly an invasion of privacy. Thankfully I do not live in those states but I am in NY (upstate) which will probably soon follow.
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    Have you read the regulation or are you just going off the thread title? Just curious, because it doesn’t seem like many people know what they are talking about and just keep injected really skewed opinions that have nothing to do with truth.

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 19:13:23 (permalink)
    Going to pop some corn and melt the butter. nom nom
    Splain it Lucy
    I do have the ability to read and gather actual facts but in this instance I will admit I did nothing but glance the title and glaze over some responses. Because of one big speedbump. Woke BS
    Not in my life
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 22:14:37 (permalink)
    welp... they can't touch my PC at all!!!

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 22:34:25 (permalink)
    This was brought up on the forums in 2016 when it was first "passed" and so many called it political bs that would never get enforced. Here we are.
     
    This is the slippery slope I always warn about. First its ban something small that few would object to, then regulate something larger, then become the leader of a group of states so that whatever BS the group thinks up the others do. Eventually one state gets to the point that they can regulate something and enough states fall in line that manufactures just accept it no matter how stupid it is. California and overreach are about as synonymous as summer and iced tea in the south. The majority is always okay with things being banned until it affects them directly. Unfortunately at that point its often too late.
     
    California is a cancer. Idk what the cure is, but I sure wish it would appear sooner rather than later. Tired of so much of the country falling inline with their crap. Especially CARB which isn't even a federal thing, but a bunch of states and the EPA lose their minds to fall over backwards to accept any random trash idea they come up with. I swear California could ban all travel over 10 miles and private property ownership as well as start enforcing bi weekly lockdowns to curb climate change and not only would half a dozen to a dozen states fall over themselves to follow suit, the 9th court would uphold it as a valid constitutional law.
     
    I really wish that manufactures would just start cutting off states that do this kind of stuff. Eventually when they are years behind other states in terms of capability maybe they will learn not to do this.
     
    Personally I find it hilarious that the state pushing hardest to force everyone to electric cars is enforcing power consumption requirements on computers.
     
    / political rant sorry but California needs to bugger off.
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 22:36:57 (permalink)
     
    I hope that recall succeeds, and we get someone in there that will help California, and not hurt it anymore. Stupid power regulation.

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 22:49:12 (permalink)
    BTW this is the same reason why I cant officially buy a lot of EATON UPS units in Colorado right now. All of them dont meet energy efficiency requirements. But its perfectly fine for me to have to spend 2x as much on the new model. Wonder if the new model lasts as long too, usually when these rules get forced on companies and they start making new versions they seem to have a shorter lifespan whether planned or not.
     
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/27 23:12:11 (permalink)
    Fellas you can go to your nearest city hall or town hall near you to get this info.
    I would focus on meeting the requirements so you wont get fined.

    Jay2cents made a video about this.



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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/28 08:03:30 (permalink)
    Living in the South does have benefits. This will never happen.
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/28 08:16:29 (permalink)
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    Fellas you can go to your nearest city hall or town hall near you to get this info.
    I would focus on meeting the requirements so you wont get fined.

    Jay2cents made a video about this.




     
     
    Jayz2cents vid, TLDW: affects prebuilts, not custom builds like us here.
     
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/28 11:01:36 (permalink)
    [sarcasm]I ship from the Free State of Florida. Stocking up on 1600w power supplies now.

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/28 18:58:10 (permalink)
     
    Maybe CA could source some extra power via methane from all the turds just laying around in the streets.
     
     

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/28 20:10:25 (permalink)
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/29 08:59:57 (permalink)
    How odd.
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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/29 09:27:44 (permalink)
    Hmm, back with another video looking into the facts and it turns out, the whole “gaming PCs are getting banned” was a lie. Weird that these click bait sites keep producing clickbait to get clicks and fund their ad revenue.

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    Re: Gaming PC's BANNED by Woke states 2021/07/29 09:30:58 (permalink)
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    Hmm, back with another video looking into the facts and it turns out, the whole “gaming PCs are getting banned” was a lie. Weird that these click bait sites keep producing clickbait to get clicks and find their ad revenue.

    Nothing weird about it - mainstream media have been doing this for years.
     

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