https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG_xJ_rC3WE

Interesting results, no gaming numbers. We will have to see if hardware unboxed will compare how the increased power and more stable clocks effects in game performance

I wonder why the FTW3 drops to lower clocks with the same temps and a high power target?

Finally a Jesus review !! Yaaay ! As for games FPS, that doesn't really matter as custom cards should be within range with one or two more FPS unless you unleash power limit and all. I'm more interested in temperature, noise, fan speed, comparison with MSI Gaming X Trio / TUF / Strix (later maybe ?) in all those aspects. Going to watch now then I'll come back to give my 2 cents.
 
PS : While buying a custom was worth it for more FPS in the previous generations, GamersNexus told already in multiple videos when speaking of the 3080 that you don't really buy a 3080 custom for more FPS but for ease of life (lower temperature, better cooling system, RGB, design, etc) as they'll be within range from one to each other. The 3080 is already very limited in power and increasing the power limit will not yield that much more results in gaming (some more FPS but probably not that much worth talking about).
 
Edit : Ok. Seems I'm going to go for a TUF then if I can. It might be a lower power consumption so a couples of FPS less maybe but the cooler just destroys the FTW3 when  power consumption is relatively the same with noise normalized, so there's no possible error there. Can't believe the FTW3 cooler isn't better... Come on guys that's the TUF ! These guys had trouble with their latest previous cards... 

interesting.
 
according to the review, in normal situation (not OC),
my 3080ftw3 ultra is more expensive, use more power, hotter,
but with lower clock frequency when compare with TUF and Eagle
 
Yet I have to admit that it is the easiest 3080 we can get in manufacturer retail price
and its excellent warranty in the market.

jilljill2002
interesting.
 
according to the review, in normal situation (not OC),
my 3080ftw3 ultra is more expensive, use more power, hotter,
but with lower clock frequency when compare with TUF and Eagle
 
Yet I have to admit that it is the easiest 3080 we can get in manufacturer retail price
and its excellent warranty in the market.

You’re comparing apples to oranges. One pays the FTW premium for better vrms, 3x8 pin, 450w etc to put these cards ultimately under water and oc them. If you just want a good card with good temps to just use it as it is and save money, yeah get the TUF or the XC Ultra for that matter or other cheaper ones (relatively).

Oh, and of course, the great EVGA CS, warranty and step up posibilities, because we all know how “great” Asus cs, RMA system is lol.

Lokius81
I kinda feel bad now that i canceld a TUF that i could have gotten by now for a FTW3 that i might not get till 2021 here in Europe.
The noise/thermals are really unimpressive compared to a much cheaper card.

Especially since he said at the end that FPS are relatively the same and power consumption doesn't change FPS so... I'm glad I canceled my XC3 tbh considering how worst it is (since it's already worse than the FTW3) compared to the TUF. I'm heading towards Asus now. Sorry EVGA you'll have to do better in terms of stock supply if you want people to buy it in Europe. 
 

jilljill2002
Yet I have to admit that it is the easiest 3080 we can get in manufacturer retail price

Well you can only speak for US region only then. 
To sum up for EU : EU Store doesn't work and has no stock, EVGA has close to no stock at retailers (compared to other Taiwan based factories brands like Asus, MSI and Gigabyte) and prices in France are +250€ over MSRP, putting still the TUF  80€ cheaper than the FTW3 Non Ultra. And they are producing way more Ultra than non Ultra, putting the gap at 100€ between TUF and FTW3 Ultra. As long as EVGA doesn't care much about their EU Store (compared to how they care about US Store), that won't change until 2021 when the 3080 retailers market should stabilize.
 
With the TUF you don't even need to go watercooling considering the temperatures, and should you choose to, there's no warranty void stickers anymore (as it's illegal) so putting a block isn't an issue anymore (as long as it doesn't leak but since the block is underneath, even if the block leaks the liquid shouldn't touch the card, unless it's the CPU block that leaks onto the card, in which case it could have leaked on the card even if you didn't watercooled the card.)
 
Basically in EU, there's way cheaper for better thermal / noise / similar FPS / lower power consumption. It's REALLY disappointing, I expected more from EVGA especially when I see Jacob twisting his own sleep (sometimes I saw him answer people close to midnight, way after business hours...) to answer people and be there for the customers.
 

jamexr

jilljill2002
interesting.

according to the review, in normal situation (not OC),
my 3080ftw3 ultra is more expensive, use more power, hotter,
but with lower clock frequency when compare with TUF and Eagle

Yet I have to admit that it is the easiest 3080 we can get in manufacturer retail price
and its excellent warranty in the market.

You’re comparing apples to oranges. One pays the FTW premium for better vrms, 3x8 pin, 450w etc to put these cards ultimately under water and oc them. If you just want a good card with good temps to just use it as it is and save money, yeah get the TUF or the XC Ultra for that matter or other cheaper ones (relatively).

Oh, and of course, the great EVGA CS, warranty and step up posibilities, because we all know how “great” Asus cs, RMA system is lol.

 
Well it seems 450w / OC doesn't yield significant results in gaming so there's no point for that unless you're an OC enthusiast doing many Firestrike etc benchmarks in which case yeah by all means get the premium one. The XC3 is worse than the FTW3 that means it's way worse than the TUF. For gaming there's no real interest of getting a FTW3 card except like you said for better CS, though like I said above, given how EVGA " cares " about EU market and seems to be less and less present in the EU that might be a less valid point over time for EU customers.


As for the 2 or 3 8 pins, it has been proven already that some cards can get huge amounts of power without needing 3*8 pins. As for VRMs I don't recall the discussion you might be right about that though it seems they really did a great job on the overall design of the TUF so I'd expect good VRMs anyway considering how good their cooling is.

So in the end I was right. Damn. I still want a FTW3, but the TUF  I got cools so well.

Lokator

 
wow, Tuf reks the FTW3 in noise and power normalized cooling performance. 10(!)K better from a 730€-750€ vs a 840€ card.
The Tuf really is a masterpiece.

Tbh I had EVGA 1080 Ti SC Black, 2080 Ti XC Black and have now a 2060 KO.
All have really disappointed me in fan noise (the 2060 KO is even useless below 30% fan speed, because I hear some crackling thing going on and off all the time, so 0 fan or quiet fan curve useless). So I don´t wonder, EVGA just seems to not have the greatest fans.

And i canceled my day 1 pre order on a TUF for a FTW3 :(

Alright, so let me get this straight. When comparing the Tuf and the FTW3:
 
Pros
3x8 Pin + 450W power limit (Not really useful other than synthetic benchmarks)
RGB??
Customer Service (not relevant outside US)
 
Cons
Hot and loud despite the deceptively large heatsinks
Massive PCB (makes it harder to fit in sffpcs)
Ugly (subjective)
Lower sustained boost frequency?
 
I would have cancelled my FTW3 preorder for the Tuf in a heartbeat if I didn't live in Australia.
 
 

Tuf has a Dual Bios, so you could try a 450W bios there.

Of course FTW3 and Strix both have more VRMs
also a plus are the ICX sensors on the FTW3 and the step up program (have fun waiting 6 months)

I would not care about the boost frequency, you can just adjust it yourself with Overclocking, the ftw3 is for overclocking anyway. 

bcavanagh

Lokator
Tuf has a Dual Bios, so you could try a 450W bios there.

Of course FTW3 and Strix both have more VRMs
also a plus are the ICX sensors on the FTW3 and the step up program (have fun waiting 6 months)

I would not care about the boost frequency, you can just adjust it yourself with Overclocking, the ftw3 is for overclocking anyway. 

What does that even mean? "The FTW3 is for overclocking anyway" What are you using to justify this statement? This review clearly shows a lower end model from ASUS overclocks and runs better than this FTW3. Same with the Eagle. That statement is completely untrue at this point. 

no, these are stock clock speeds and the ftw3 will go well above....
with way more VRMs and a 450w power limit + louder fans you can get a really high oc.... stock speeds are useless imo

if you want a quiet card at stock with great out of the box performance, the Tuf is a champ, for overclocking and noise is not an issue, the ftw3 and strix are defo top notch

the ftw3 noise performance is just bad imo, for overclocking I would defo go Strix, assuming it wont have worse noise and power normalized performance than Tuf.

But yes, there is no reason to not buy a tuf at msrp.

ICX sensors are kinda nifty, but not really relevant for the 90% of the users buying them.
Better VRMS and power limits dont really matter a whole lot when at best you are getting a few more fps in 1440p or 4k, at the expense of much higher thermal output.

Lokator

ajropey
ICX sensors are kinda nifty, but not really relevant for the 90% of the users buying them.
Better VRMS and power limits dont really matter a whole lot when at best you are getting a few more fps in 1440p or 4k, at the expense of much higher thermal output.

these are enthusiast cards.
Enthusiasts want the card with the best components.
Since the noise is not that great, tons of enthusiasts will prefer the Strix above the FTW3.

 
Lol, literally all RTX 3080s are enthusiast cards, but I get your point.
 
Its just that AIBs should be focusing more on the cooling/quality of life aspects of the card rather than beefed up PCB designs since overclocking is essentially dead.

I_R0M_I
I'm mostly happy with my FTW Ultra (only negatives are my cpu bottlenecking it, so not gpus fault!)
It sits 60-65 mostly in games on the 450w bios.
Will sit around 2070-2115 most of the time, with a max of 2145.

Ive never seen Evga as a budget brand myself. Thought they were one of the top brands?

Seems the results on cooling are all over the place with the FTW which makes me wonder if there is a Quality Control issue going on.
Glad to hear you have a good card though, what are the noise levels for you?
Also no EVGA is not a budget brand.